For some reason, I get the wrong (read: boxes) fonts on the motif
widgets on some programs.
Specifically:
Netscape 4.x: The browser text is fine, but the button widgets (back,
fwd, config, etc) are all boxes rather than characters.
Acrobat Reader: The navigation wodgets at the bottom are
I'd like to try StarOffice 3.1.4 on a 486 (need just StarWriter and
not the Desktop). I have the following components (CD-ROM, BTW for
german readers: from Kofler 3rd. ed.):
Star-Office-common-3.1.4.i386.rpm
Star-Office-german-3.1.4.i386.rpm
Star-Office-statbin-3.1.4.i386.rpm # no Motif
quot; monitor. the problem that i'm currently
> having is that the font sizes for Motif menu bars (like in netscape) and GTK
> interfaces (like in gnome-apt) are too huge. xterm and other "really simple"
> X clients are fine. Is there a way to tell Motif or GTK to be smaller, or
Hello,
I'm trying to run a bare-bones twm X desktop without dealing with gnome or
kde, but i'm not too familiar with how to tweak my settings. I'm running the
SVGA server at 1024x768 on a 15" monitor. the problem that i'm currently
having is that the font sizes for
ct: Re: Motif now Open source
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Bruce Sass wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2000, Iain O'Cain wrote:
>
> Section 2 of http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/ begins by
> stating that the terms of the license only apply when OpenMotif is used
> with "Open Source
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:52:38PM -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > I can set the background to gray80 (using the Netscape*background X
> > resource), but I can't see any way to set Motif's 3D colours. Is there
> > documentation on this anywhere? Has anyone managed it?
>
> Do you mean the background
> I can set the background to gray80 (using the Netscape*background X
> resource), but I can't see any way to set Motif's 3D colours. Is there
> documentation on this anywhere? Has anyone managed it?
Do you mean the background of the application window or the background
in the frame where web site
I'm struggling to make Netscape look similar to the rest of my most
often used applications. I want the windows to be gray80, with a white
3D highlight and a gray55 3D shadow.
I can set the background to gray80 (using the Netscape*background X
resource), but I can't see any way to set Motif's 3D c
I haven't used them myself, but they exist, according to www.gtk.org.
On 18-Oct-99 zhaoway wrote:
> Bryan Scaringe wrote:
>> Just to clarify:
>>
>> GTK is C based, but language bindings/wrappers exist for several languages
>> (check http://www.gnome.org) , including C++. The C++ wrapper is call
Bryan Scaringe wrote:
> Just to clarify:
>
> GTK is C based, but language bindings/wrappers exist for several languages
> (check http://www.gnome.org) , including C++. The C++ wrapper is called
> GTK--.
What 'bout the Perl/Python Gtk/Tk/Qt/KDE bindings? Just curious.
I use Perl/Tk to develope sm
rograms, and if anyone can give me a
> MF> comparison, or point me to information concerning the abeality of
> MF> each of them. Any recomendations of where to start? Thanx
> MF> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> This is kinda off-topic, but I would recommend either Qt
I am looking to start some graphic programing and the folowing toolkits
are those that look most apropraite for serious user interfaces and
graphics.
I was wondering how apropriate each of them is for writing serious
programs, and if anyone can give me a comparison, or point me to
information conce
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 01:58:36PM -0700, Rik Burt wrote:
> Where can I find the Motif software. I am aware that it is a commercial
>
> product but I don't know where to look for it. I am interested because
> the Netscape pkg that dselect has requires it for certain versi
On 05-Oct-99 Rik Burt wrote:
> Where can I find the Motif software. I am aware that it is a commercial
>
> product but I don't know where to look for it. I am interested because
> the Netscape pkg that dselect has requires it for certain versions of
> netscape.
>
It
Where can I find the Motif software. I am aware that it is a commercial
product but I don't know where to look for it. I am interested because
the Netscape pkg that dselect has requires it for certain versions of
netscape.
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On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Micha Feigin wrote:
> Is it possible to learn mottif programing using lesstif instead of motif?
> and if so, is can anyone recommand any good documentation?
>
Yes, the goal of Lesstif is 100% source compatibility with Motif.
Is it possible to learn mottif programing using lesstif instead of motif?
and if so, is can anyone recommand any good documentation?
Thanx
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Hello everyone.
I'm using Xmgr 4.1.2 statically linked against Motif. I use it because it
is more stable than Grace AFAIK. The problem is that the menu and dialog
font size is too big to insure that windows will fit on my 800x600 laptop
display. Does anyone have a solution to this problem?
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 18:01:39 +0200, Stefano Stabilini wrote:
> Is there something like a free runtime version of Motif around?
No. For commercial Motif versions, you need to pay money for using the
shared lib.
> Would Lesstif just do fine?
That depends on the Motif version the code e
Hello world!
I friend of mine wrote a small C program and compiled it for a Silicon
Graphics machine.
He passed me the binaries (useless) and the C source code. I'd like to
run it on my Linux system, but it needs a number of Motif header files
to be compiled. Is there something like a
> I am about to install motif (2.1.10) from metrolink and I am wondering
> about the best way to do it. I can use either "tar.gz" or ".rpm"
> files. If I use the rpm's I can run them through alien to get debs.
> My concern, if all of this gets installed in /
Hi,
I am about to install motif (2.1.10) from metrolink and I
am wondering about the best way to do it. I can use either
"tar.gz" or ".rpm" files. If I use the rpm's I can run them
through alien to get debs. My concern, if all of this gets
installed in /usr (instead
> Ok, I'm going to thoroughly expose my ignorance of all things X & Motif...
> I'm taking a class on Motif programming and thought I could use my Linux
> machine at home to compile the code...no go, obviously. So I guess I'm
> wondering - is Motif thoroughly un-f
Ok, I'm going to thoroughly expose my ignorance of all things X & Motif...
I'm taking a class on Motif programming and thought I could use my Linux
machine at home to compile the code...no go, obviously. So I guess I'm
wondering - is Motif thoroughly un-free? I attempted to
AlexY wrote -
> > Is there a package of Netscape 4.5 compiled for SWiM Motif 2.1 ?
> Most probably not. Netscape always used Motif 1.2 for linking.
> May be glibc2 version uses Morif 2.1 - but unlikely.
You are right. Navigator / Communicator 4.5 glibc dynmotif is linked
against
> Is there a package of Netscape 4.5 compiled for SWiM Motif 2.1 ?
Most probably not. Netscape always used Motif 1.2 for linking.
May be glibc2 version uses Morif 2.1 - but unlikely.
Alex Y.
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Is there a package of Netscape 4.5 compiled for SWiM Motif 2.1 ?
Thanks,
Sasha.
> i have motif2.01, and i used alien --deb , and installed the .deb
> result. After i tried to lounch mwm and get a segmantation fault!!!
> i tried again with an other file from the motif package and got the same
> thing!!
> the motif package was first in rpm format, after con
i have motif2.01, and i used alien --deb , and installed the .deb
result. After i tried to lounch mwm and get a segmantation fault!!!
i tried again with an other file from the motif package and got the same
thing!!
the motif package was first in rpm format, after converting it,
i uninstalled
which motif do you have? i converted metrolink motif 2.1 into a deb
package. i converted the rpm to deb using
alien -d -g -c
-g creates a directory to unpack the rpm, -c tries to convert the
installation scripts. i then moved the files around to have them
conform as much as possible with the
hi,
did any body tried to install motif 2 ( thoses who had the opportunity
to have it ! ) rpm format in a Debian machine , i guess one have first
to use Alien ... but did any body succeed ?
NB:please don't respond by telling me that i'm damned by daring speak
about such an no- fr
> What are people using for Motif on glibc systems?
"Motif Complete!" from Metro Link Inc. (www.metrolink.com) is an EXCELLENT
product. Great documentation, possibility for multi-version development
environments, latest versions, customized winow manager,
What are people using for Motif on glibc systems?
Wayne Cuddy
CRB-WEB (C & H Consulting)
http://www.crb-web.com
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What versions of MOTIF will work with Debian 2.0?
Thanks
Hi,
> What versions of MOTIF will work with Debian 2.0?
Can't help you with Motif. Have you considered the LessTif package? I
believe that it aims for Motif 1.2 "compliance." It may still be a little
buggy, however.
-Ossama
What versions of MOTIF will work with Debian 2.0?
Thanks
What versions of MOTIF will work with Debian 2.0?
Thanks
't for the life of me see much difference
| between the three (GTK, Qt, and Motif), and they don't look *that* much
| different to the Windows toolkit either. Am I missing something here?
You're quite right. There is fortunately no big differences in how
GTK, Qt and Motif applicatio
ee much difference
between the three (GTK, Qt, and Motif), and they don't look *that* much
different to the Windows toolkit either. Am I missing something here?
Andrew Tarr
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate"
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Hi,
Our university kindly bought us Motif for Linux (SWim 2.1) from Linux System
Labs (http://www.lsl.com). On the CD they send there is an installation for
redhat, but nothing for debian. Generally they recommend to copy a big
directory tree to /usr. As it's quite big I am a littl
Oh yes, sorry, I stand corrected.
Carroll Kong
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 08:00:05PM -0400, Carroll Kong wrote:
> > Motif is not freeware. Lesstif is.. but you need Motif to run XMCD.
>
> No you don't. The xmcd package in
At 16:24 09.04.98 -0500, you wrote:
>On 9 Apr, Helmut Leinfellner wrote:
>> Hi !
>>
>> I was trying to install XMCD and I think what I'm lacking is ... Motif.
>>
>> Where do I get it ?
>>
>
>Well since Motif libs cost about $100US you co
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 08:00:05PM -0400, Carroll Kong wrote:
> Motif is not freeware. Lesstif is.. but you need Motif to run XMCD.
No you don't. The xmcd package in frozen uses LessTif, not Motif.
Ray
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Motif is not freeware. Lesstif is.. but you need Motif to run XMCD.
There is a statically compiled version somewhere...
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On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Helmut Leinfellner wrote:
> Hi !
>
> I was trying to install XMCD and I think what I'm lacking is ... Motif.
>
On 9 Apr, Helmut Leinfellner wrote:
> Hi !
>
> I was trying to install XMCD and I think what I'm lacking is ... Motif.
>
> Where do I get it ?
>
Well since Motif libs cost about $100US you could go to your local
sunsite mirror and go to the ../apps/sound/cdrom/X/ dir
Hi !
I was trying to install XMCD and I think what I'm lacking is ... Motif.
Where do I get it ?
Thanks, Helmut
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>i've made the xmotif-static package. you can get it by anonymous ftp
^^
sorry to follow up on my own post. what i meant to say is that i made
the xmgr-smotif package. and one more thing, it depends on libc6, as i
have a hamm system. i just saw that the message was posted to
deb
>stable and it's buggy i think. So is it possible to make such packages
>statically linked against motif (like ddd-static). I would recompile it,
>but i do not have motif.
>
>Thanks,
>Jens
i've made the xmotif-static package. you can get it by anonymous ftp
from calib
ossible to make such packages
> > statically linked against motif (like ddd-static). I would recompile it,
> > but i do not have motif.
>
> Well, the bigger problem that xmgr has is that with the new lesstif (>0.82) it
> take ages to display the gadgets. I don't know why.
On 03-Apr-98 Jens Lisner wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> I noticed that some packages like xmgr are dynamical linked against
> lesstif. Work isn't very easy with xmgr and lesstif, it's not much
> stable and it's buggy i think. So is it possible to make such packages
>
Hi folks!
I noticed that some packages like xmgr are dynamical linked against
lesstif. Work isn't very easy with xmgr and lesstif, it's not much
stable and it's buggy i think. So is it possible to make such packages
statically linked against motif (like ddd-static). I would recompi
> I've used alien to convert the RPM for RH Motif 2.1 to .deb Looking at the
> listing for files for lesstif and RH Motif 2.1 I see that if I install RH
> over lesstif it will overwrite some of the files that lesstif provides.
> Should I just remove lesstif and go with RH Motif?
I've used alien to convert the RPM for RH Motif 2.1 to .deb Looking at the
listing for files for lesstif and RH Motif 2.1 I see that if I install RH
over lesstif it will overwrite some of the files that lesstif provides.
Should I just remove lesstif and go with RH Motif? Would apps
nstall it.
> Also where can I buy (inexpensively) a version of Motif 2.1
> (devel and binaries) that is compiled for libc6.
I'm not aware of a commercial Motif compiled with libc6, but lesstif
(ftp://ftp.lesstif.org/pub/hungry/lesstif) will compile cleanly with
libc6, and it's no
> I asked the same question a short time ago and got no answe. But here are
> a couple of ideas:
>
> a) compile it yourself. The package maintainer gave me a bit of a hint
> that, if one wants to go this route, then it would be helpful to install a
> package that can be found under
> 'ftp.debs.f
On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Vladislav Papayan x285 wrote:
> Hello,
> does any one know where from I can dowload (if it exists)
> the latest version of KDE (I think it is Beta 3) that
> is compiled for libc6?
I asked the same question a short time ago and got no answe. But here are
a couple of ideas:
a)
> Also where can I buy (inexpensively) a version of Motif 2.1
> (devel and binaries)
> that is compiled for libc6. And will it work when the latest
> version of the gnu compiler 2.8.0 (or egcc) will become
> standard?
You'll be OK with any compiler. As for Motif, there
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On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Vladislav Papayan x285 wrote:
> Hello,
[...]
> Also where can I buy (inexpensively) a version of Motif 2.1
> (devel and binaries)
> that is compiled for libc6. And will it work when the latest
> version of the gnu com
Hello,
does any one know where from I can dowload (if it exists)
the latest version of KDE (I think it is Beta 3) that
is compiled for libc6?
Also where can I buy (inexpensively) a version of Motif 2.1
(devel and binaries)
that is compiled for libc6. And will it work when the latest
version of
> Can RedHat motif (I used alien to convert a .rpm to .deb) co-exist with
> lesstif? xscreensaver installation complains that it needs lesstif.
You can try...
But my experience says "no way". Download the source package and recompile
xsceeensaver yourself (with real
Can RedHat motif (I used alien to convert a .rpm to .deb) co-exist with
lesstif? xscreensaver installation complains that it needs lesstif.
S.
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> > Thanks... , This is my output.. obviously no Motif.. Is it in a particular
> > package? and should I have more thaa this output?
> >
>
> Motif is not free. You can buy it from several vendors. Which puts up
> a question. What are people's experien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Beattie) writes:
> Thanks... , This is my output.. obviously no Motif.. Is it in a particular
> package? and should I have more thaa this output?
The other way you'd know you had Motif is that your wallet would be
feeling a bit lighter. :-( It's not
>
> Thanks... , This is my output.. obviously no Motif.. Is it in a particular
> package? and should I have more thaa this output?
>
Motif is not free. You can buy it from several vendors. Which puts up
a question. What are people's experiences with different kind of motif
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> Michael Beattie wrote:
> >
> >Okay, I agree, this is most likely a very stupid question. How can one
> >tell if they have motif installed?
>
> # ldconfig -p | grep Xm
>libXmu.so.6 (ELF-libc6) => /usr/X11R6
Michael Beattie wrote:
>
>Okay, I agree, this is most likely a very stupid question. How can one
>tell if they have motif installed?
# ldconfig -p | grep Xm
libXmu.so.6 (ELF-libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6
libXmu.so.6 (ELF-libc5) => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so
Okay, I agree, this is most likely a very stupid question. How can one
tell if they have motif installed?
Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Has anyone created a diff file for use with alien (or a wrapper deb) to
install RedHat Motif 2.0? I've got the library, but would like to place
the components in a "standard" Debian location. Thanks.
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> On Sep 27, Lawrence wrote
> > I heard from the lists there is a problem compiling a Motif program with
> > libc6. I have contacted RedHat and they said that they may release their
> > Motif development kit compatible with libc6 very later this
On Sep 27, Lawrence wrote
> I heard from the lists there is a problem compiling a Motif program with
> libc6. I have contacted RedHat and they said that they may release their
> Motif development kit compatible with libc6 very later this year.
> Meanwhile, is it possible to insta
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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:
> I heard from the lists there is a problem compiling a Motif program with
> libc6. I have contacted RedHat and they said that they may release
> their Motif development kit compatible with libc6 very later
I heard from the lists there is a problem compiling a Motif program with
libc6. I have contacted RedHat and they said that they may release
their Motif development kit compatible with libc6 very later this year.
Meanwhile, is it possible to install libc6 and still able to compile
Motif program
On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:
> Anyone know who is selling the Motif 2.0.1 in .deb package?
>
> Lawrence
>
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; top of the function instead of in the middle) from Douglas A. Young's "The
> X Window System Programming and Applications with Xt: OSF/Motif Edition".
> I figure this qualifies as fair use since the damn code doesn't work.
There is nothing wrong with the codes. I have
dle) from Douglas A. Young's "The
X Window System Programming and Applications with Xt: OSF/Motif Edition".
I figure this qualifies as fair use since the damn code doesn't work.
gcc -o memo.c concat.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib/ -lXm -lXt -lX11
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hi,
maybe i better should sleep, but i did this:
i have debian 1.3.1 on my working system, and a older , non-debian system
with Motif 2.0 . So i cp'd all Motif files to the working one.
But there is one problem:
ven# gimp
gimp: can't resolve symbol '__ctype_get_mb_cur_max
> Hello all!
>
> I'm looking at buying a copy of Motif for Linux. I've tried
> lesstif and unfortunately for my current needs it isn't yet
> stable enough (though, hopefully that will change with time).
>
> A friend of mine sent me the following informati
Hello all!
I'm looking at buying a copy of Motif for Linux. I've tried
lesstif and unfortunately for my current needs it isn't yet
stable enough (though, hopefully that will change with time).
A friend of mine sent me the following information he gathered
up on the web about so
> > > > What do you mean? Making Lesstif and Motif binary compatible?
> > > > You must have OSF source for that :)
>
> I know that if someone want to sell Motif, he needs to buy the source
> from OSF and compile it. And if he wants to use the name "Motif&quo
> > > What do you mean? Making Lesstif and Motif binary compatible?
> > > You must have OSF source for that :)
I know that if someone want to sell Motif, he needs to buy the source
from OSF and compile it. And if he wants to use the name "Motif" to
sell their compil
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>
> and david teague responded
> > If one has the library call interface and specifications, it seems to me
> > that it should be possible to write a library that is functionally
> > identical to Motif. If this is not true, I'
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Glen Carreras wrote:
> David B. Teague wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> >
> > > > >>Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
> > > > >>for most of us who
David B. Teague wrote:
>
> On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>
> > > >>Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
> > > >>for most of us who has Motif 2.0 :(
> > >
> > > >Works with lesstif too?
> On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>
> > > >>Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
> > > >>for most of us who has Motif 2.0 :(
> > >
> > > >Works with lesstif too? ;)
> > >
> >
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> > >>Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
> > >>for most of us who has Motif 2.0 :(
> >
> > >Works with lesstif too? ;)
> >
> > I have seen several posts which claim
On Tue, 27 May 1997, [ISO-8859-1] Mika Marjamäki wrote:
> Hi! Does anyone know, what would be best (commercial) Motif for use with
> Debian? Is there any Motifs available as .deb-file?
>
>
> Mika
>
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Also worth a look at lesstif, a Motif look-a-like under active
development.
Ed
On Tue, 27 May 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> >
> > Hi! Does anyone know, what would be best (commercial) Motif for use with
> > Debian? Is there any Motifs available as .deb-file?
>
>
>
> Hi! Does anyone know, what would be best (commercial) Motif for use with
> Debian? Is there any Motifs available as .deb-file?
I had opportunity to use both Xi Graphics and Metrolink Motifs.
I tried Xi Graphics' version first and it seemed to have some bugs.
After I tried Met
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: These printers need to be rarped in order to get their ip address.
: You need to set up rarpd, and entries in /etc/ethers and /etc/hosts
: for the printer.
Well, I used bootp to configure the JetDirect's and recently I switched
to DHCP (dhcpd package
Mika Marjamäki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And does anyone have any experience on configuring Debian to use printers
> that are attached to a HP JetDirect EX Plus3? I think it can share the
> printers with lpd-protocol, but I didn't get it working..:(
These printers need to be rarped in order t
Hi! Does anyone know, what would be best (commercial) Motif for use with
Debian? Is there any Motifs available as .deb-file?
And does anyone have any experience on configuring Debian to use printers
that are attached to a HP JetDirect EX Plus3? I think it can share the
printers with lpd-protocol
Hello all.
Could anyone shed some light and explain advantages of switching to libc6?
As far as I can see from discussions the only "safe" bet is to have
everything in libc6. But what should do people who are using commercial
developmental suits like Motif or XRT PDS? As you can guess
Alex Yukhimets:
> > > Suprisingly, alien_5 didn't work for this purpors. It does not
> > > convert .tgz packages properly. (after installation I still have /install
> > > directory). - Does anyone have any idea why?
Fixed in alien 5.2.
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> > I just made a simple slackware .tgz package, it is not hard at all,
> > you just have to modify motif.install file to look like slackware's
> > doinst.sh and repack everything in a single motif-2.0.1.tgz file.
> > After that I again used alien_3.3 to convert tha
ean that up so everything is owned by root.root.
> I just made a simple slackware .tgz package, it is not hard at all,
> you just have to modify motif.install file to look like slackware's
> doinst.sh and repack everything in a single motif-2.0.1.tgz file.
> After
Gernot,
I also got Motif 2.0.1 from Metrolink and I actually have different
question to you. What moitf archive you decided to install: rpm or tar?
In any case, cpuuld you please check the user/group ownerships of the
files from this motif archives.
(like ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Motif
I already bought a motif-version from Metrolink. How can I tell Debian
that I have Motif installed (to install the motif-apps)?
Thanx,
Gernot
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On Mon, 07 Apr 1997 21:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>>> "TT" == The Tick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TT> SWiM Motif came on a single CD-ROM, in a plain white envelope
TT> all in a cardboard mailer. And thats it. No manuals (manuals
TT> cost extra, but I saw PostScript Motif
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