Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-11 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Bob Proulx writes: > apt-mark showmanual Wow! This command is very useful! Thank you! =) pgpxElOsR0H4I.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > Ken Heard wrote: > > in APT supporting 'apt-get autoremove'. With regards to that the > > above no longer works well. For one problem it completely breaks the > > extended_states paradigm. > > > > The extended_states paradigm is to track for each pac

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-09 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Bob Proulx writes: > Ken Heard wrote: > >> # dpkg --get-selections '*' > selection.dpkg > > That is definitely the old venerable way of doing this on Debian from > a decade of years ago. When working on the same version of Debian it > even worked relatively well. Then. But now we have extended

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/7/2013 11:50 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: It's pretty obvious you're not familiar with production servers for small/medium business. Not a criticism, but an observation. Maintaining one of these is not at all like maintaining your desktop or personal server. Requirements ar

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Jerry Stuckle wrote: > It's pretty obvious you're not familiar with production servers for > small/medium business. Not a criticism, but an observation. > Maintaining one of these is not at all like maintaining your desktop > or personal server. Requirements are much different. Oh sigh. By the

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/7/2013 2:04 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and then install the top level packages you require. I would normally do this. I would set up a new m

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >>Chris Bannister wrote: > >>>Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and > >>>then install the top level packages you require. > > > >I would normally do this. I would set up a new machine. Then > >manua

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Ken Heard wrote: >> >> In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to >> install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. > > This is a question that appears on the list every so often. People > want to

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/6/2013 4:49 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and then install the top level packages you require. I would normally do this. I would set up a new machine. Then manually put in the work to

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and > > then install the top level packages you require. I would normally do this. I would set up a new machine. Then manually put in the work to move each task over from the old t

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Ken Heard wrote: > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to > install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. This is a question that appears on the list every so often. People want to be able to do this. But unfortunately it isn't easy to do we

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 01:03:58PM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > So what I'm going to do is build a new server, install the same > software that's on the current one, then reply the modifications to > the configuration files. Once it is thoroughly tested, I will > replace the old one with the new

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday, November 04, 2013 01:20:01 PM Tony van der Hoff wrote: > No, it didn't work for me. I would have much preferred to automate this. > However, AFAICT the tools aren't available, and the time comes where you > feel you're beating your head against a wall. That's when I gave up. > > I'm not

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 9:50 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all t

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Joe
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:20:58 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 November 2013 12:19:45 Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > > > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want > ^ > > > to install all the

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20131102_142017, Ken Heard wrote: >> >> You can make a local copy of the package and debconf selection states >> by the following. >> >> # dpkg --get-selections '*' > selection.dpkg >> # debconf-get-selections> selection.debconf > > I d

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20131102_142017, Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to > install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. > > In section 2.7.16 of Aoki Osamu San's excellent Debian Refer

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 04/11/13 18:05, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/4/2013 10:05 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400,

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 10:05 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS wil

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to in

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > >>In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to > >>install all the packages which I presently have in

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 November 2013 12:19:45 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want ^ > > to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with > > Squeeze. > > W

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > Will this command sequence generally work when the "from" box has > Squeeze and the "to" box has Wheezy? Specifically, will the packages > installed in the Wheezy box having the same names as the ones in the > Squeeze box be the Wheezy v

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. Why can't you just upgrade? IOW, unlikely that you

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to > install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. Why can't you just upgrade? IOW, unlikely that you'll get any help with your "jump through the

Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-02 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. In section 2.7.16 of Aoki Osamu San's excellent Debian Reference, titled "Recording and copying system configur