Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >>Chris Bannister wrote: > >>>Instead it would make more sense to install a fresh Wheezy system and > >>>then install the top level packages you require. > > > >I would normally do this. I would set up a new machine. Then > >manually put in the work to move each task over from the old to the > >new. Been there many times. It is work and effort. But less work > >in total than trying to avoid the work. > > And how do you know what "each task" is when you don't have > documentation in the complete system? And if you don't know what is > required by the tasks?
For example if the machine is a web server then I would replicate the web setup on the other machine. If dhcpd then again the same. > >>This is a live server, with all kinds of modifications to the > >>configuration files (unfortunately, many were before my time and are > >>not documented). Due to the mods, upgrading to Squeeze was a mess > > > >Sigh. I am once again dealing with a very similar situation. And I > >can't really do what I want to do which is to move to a clean system > >and move tasks over to it. I pretty much need to clean it up in > >place. Which is a difficult situation. Double sigh. I just need to > >carefully walk through the minefields there. > > I can't "clean it up in place" and risk downtime on a live system. Then life is very bad for you. :-( > >But I still would not myself use the strategy of doing the > >get-selections and set-selections because in my opinion I don't like > >the direction of that strategy. I would identify the top level > >packages and install those. It is easy to install missing packages. > >The problem is that they are initially missing and so you find them by > >seeing what is broken. That is bad. But I know of no better way. > > How can you do that when you don't know all of the tasks and what > they require? By doing exactly what I just said. I will say it again. The problem is that they are initially missing and so you find them by seeing what is broken. That is bad. But I know of no better way. And I know your response will be that you can't do that. The answer is that then you are in a world of serious hurt. Serious, serious hurt. > >On the same version? Or jumping to a newer version? > > This whole discussion has been about upgrading to Wheezy. Some of the discussion has been about cloning servers on the same version. Bob
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