Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-11-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/10/2014, Curt wrote: > On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating >> to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have >> Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. >> > > What I see here > > https://wiki.debian.org/L

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bret Busby wrote: > Why a web page published to provide information to the public, needs > to be "https", I have no idea. To create more https traffic. If you only encrypt important things then if it is encrypted them it must be important. An attacker now knows that every piece of encrypted traf

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:37:32PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: > >> > >> :~# df -h > >> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > ... > >> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home > > >

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/10/2014, Curt wrote: > On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating >> to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have >> Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. >> > > What I see here > > https://wiki.debian.org/L

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby wrote: > > which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating > to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have > Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. > What I see here https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using doesn't seem to correspond with

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> :~# df -h >> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > ... >> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home > > Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen all > sorts

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
Hello, Cindy. On 25/10/2014, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 10/25/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >>> :~# df -h >>> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on >> ... >>> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home >> >> Can't tell if

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/25/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> :~# df -h >> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > ... >> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home > > Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen all > sorts of

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: > > :~# df -h > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... > /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen all sorts of strange failures with a full /home, including X

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 22:06, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >>> >> >

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >> > >> >> So, now I am confused, as to whether I ma

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/10/14 21:17, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >>> On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > Igor Sverkos wrote: >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step whic

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: > > > So, now I am confused, as to whether I managed to achieve a successful > system update. >

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 21:17, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> >>> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: > As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all > the > time. >>>

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >>> > >>> > Please post the output of >>> > >>> >apt-get update >>> >>> " >>> :~# apt-get update >> >> That looks fine. Please try 'apt-get

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >> > >> > Please post the output of >> > >> >apt-get update >> >> " >> :~# apt-get update > > That looks fine. Please try 'apt-get upgrade'. > " :~# apt-get upgrade E: Could n

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: > > > > Please post the output of > > > >apt-get update > > " > :~# apt-get update That looks fine. Please try 'apt-get upgrade'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussio

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >>> On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > Igor Sverkos wrote: >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> >>> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: >>> > Igor Sverkos wrote: >>> >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all >>> >> the >>> >> time. >>> > >

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: > On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: >> > Igor Sverkos wrote: >> >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all >> >> the >> >> time. >> > >> > dpkg has added fsync() calls after all f

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Brian
On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Igor Sverkos wrote: > >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all the > >> time. > > > > dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This > > significantly slows d

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > Igor Sverkos wrote: >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all the >> time. > > dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This > significantly slows down file operations. Basically it disables the > file system buffer ca

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:10:05 AM UTC+5:30, Bob Proulx wrote: > Igor Sverkos wrote: > > As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all the > > time. > > dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This > significantly slows down file operations. Basically

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Igor Sverkos
Hi, I already read the FAQ, that's why I am already using the "nodelalloc" mount option. I also tried "eatmydata": > # eatmydata annotate-output apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > 14:02:27 I: Started apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > 14:02:27 O: Reading package lists... > 14:02:27 O: Buildi

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 oct 14, 08:33:00, Curt wrote: > > What about some of the other workarounds/solutions outlined here > (there)? > > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ#User_Questions > > (Q: Why is dpkg so slow when using new filesystems such as btrfs or ext4?) I'd be interested about the 'nodelallo

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-23, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > I expect this suggestion to be followed by many people griping that my > suggestion is unsafe and that the years and years we spent living > without fsync() were unsafe. But we did. We had at least a decade of > fast systems in the "before time". And the s

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Igor Sverkos wrote: > As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all the > time. dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This significantly slows down file operations. Basically it disables the file system buffer cache causing it to operate at disk drive spee

Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-22 Thread Igor Sverkos
Hi, I've got a physical machine with jessie/sid where installing/updating a packages takes very long: > # annotate-output strace -s 4096 -e trace=file -f -ttt -o /tmp/dpkg-debug.log > apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > 20:13:28 I: Started strace -s 4096 -e trace=file -f -ttt -o > /tmp/dpkg-de