Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-04 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
Em 04-03-2013 08:32, Brian escreveu: On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 23:34:23 -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Brian wrote: fdisk leaves space at the beginning of the drive because GRUB requires it to embed part of itself there. But GRUB will not go there because it thinks it is overwriting data

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-04 Thread Brian
On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 23:34:23 -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > fdisk leaves space at the beginning of the drive because GRUB requires > > it to embed part of itself there. But GRUB will not go there because it > > thinks it is overwriting data on the disk when it dete

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
Brian wrote: > On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 18:07:26 -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > >> > Write a netinst image to two USB devices. Boot from one device and >> > install to the second one. Try text and GUI modes. It's about an >> hour's >> > work at most. >> >> But will this happen even if one f

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Brian
On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 18:07:26 -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > Had the USB hard drive been used instead of the 8-GB USB and *exactly* > > the same install attempted it too would have failed. The nature or size > > of the device being installed to is immaterial, as is

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 3:33 PM, Brian wrote: On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 12:29:44 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/3 6:25 AM, Brian wrote: Ok. You are using USB flash/USB flash drive/USB hard disc/USB drive interchangeably to refer to the same device? Its good to have that clarified. [Snip] Prior to a

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
Brian wrote: > Had the USB hard drive been used instead of the 8-GB USB and *exactly* > the same install attempted it too would have failed. The nature or size > of the device being installed to is immaterial, as is whether it is a > text mode or GUI install. The only thing that matters is that th

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Brian
On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 12:29:44 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > On 2013/3/3 6:25 AM, Brian wrote: > > > >Ok. You are using USB flash/USB flash drive/USB hard disc/USB drive > >interchangeably to refer to the same device? Its good to have that > >clarified. [Snip] > Prior to attempting to install to

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 2:28 PM, Go Linux wrote: --- On Sun, 3/3/13, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/3 6:25 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 19:56:43 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: The reason I switched the target from an 8-GB USB flash drive to a USB hard drive is that someone said I couldn't install to

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Go Linux
--- On Sun, 3/3/13, Mark Filipak wrote: > From: Mark Filipak > Subject: Re: Installation failed - and failed again... > To: "Brian" > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 11:29 AM > On 2013/3/3 6:25 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 0

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 2:07 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: I've thrown the thread away, Oh no... -big snip- Ohmygod! João Luis, of course I'll reproduce it. That should be easy. After all, I've put 2 overtime days into it at this point. Kindly stand by. Right now I'm composi

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
> Mark Filipak wrote: > > I've thrown the thread away, Oh no, please Mark! We are wayting a step by step detailed description of the procedure that makes GUI installer fail and text installer succeed. Please, this is vital so we can reproduce, diagnose and fix the bug. If you do not provide such s

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 6:25 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 19:56:43 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/2 3:36 PM, Brian wrote: Your success was not a result of running the text-based Debian Installer. Forget about it. Try a bit of lateral, or even vertical, thinking. You may not realise it but

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 19:56:43 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > On 2013/3/2 3:36 PM, Brian wrote: > > > >Your success was not a result of running the text-based Debian > >Installer. Forget about it. Try a bit of lateral, or even vertical, > >thinking. You may not realise it but substituting the USB st

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/2 3:36 PM, Brian wrote:> On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 13:24:06 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: Observation: I'm struck by how some (many?) on this list tell me what I did (like I was asleep) and they're wrong. Please, pay attention... I did not make a substitution. 1 - I in

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 3:36 PM, Brian wrote:> On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 13:24:06 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/2 12:37 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Exactly. Either it was a pertitioning problem, as pointed first by Lisi, and he does not want to admit; or some other random problem, and in this c

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 13:24:06 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > On 2013/3/2 12:37 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > > > >Exactly. Either it was a pertitioning problem, as pointed first by Lisi, > >and he does not want to admit; or some other random problem, and in this > >case no one will never k

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 1:58 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: It was not a partitioning problem or some other random problem. There's a bug in the GUI Debian Installer packaged with LXDE desktop, ver 6.0.6. I succeeded simply by running the text-based Debian Installer. No one suggested that. If this is

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
> It was not a partitioning problem or some other random problem. There's a > bug in the GUI Debian Installer packaged with LXDE desktop, ver 6.0.6. I > succeeded simply by running the text-based Debian Installer. No one > suggested that. If this is the case, please accept my deepest apologies. P

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 12:37 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 08:51:03 +, Brian wrote: > The problem is in the GUI installer. To do the installation > successfully, use the text-based installer. I'd not see this as being the problem, Both a text and a GUI install shou

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
> On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 08:51:03 +, Brian wrote: > >> The problem is in the GUI installer. To do the installation >> successfully, use the text-based installer. > > I'd not see this as being the problem, Both a text and a GUI install > should succeed (or fail) under the *same* condition

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 08:51:03 +, Brian wrote: > From another mail in this thread: > >http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg00073.html > >Some work for you. This iGRUB failure should be repeatable. When it >happens switch to console 4 with ALT-F4 and let us know what the

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 20:10:34 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > On 2013/3/1 6:58 PM, Brian wrote: > > > >Any chance of a sight of what syslog reports when GRUB fails to install? > > How do I get to the syslog? >From another mail in this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg0007

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 6:58 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 18:44:55 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: Regarding installing onto the USB hard drive... I booted from USB thumb drive, then tried to install from that (using its built-in Debian Installer) onto a USB hard drive. That also failed, same problem

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-01 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 18:44:55 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > Regarding installing onto the USB hard drive... > > I booted from USB thumb drive, then tried to install from that (using > its built-in Debian Installer) onto a USB hard drive. That also > failed, same problem as when I attempted to ins

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
Hello All, By mistake this thread has been going only to Steven Grunza. I'm reposting to the whole list for help. Regarding installing onto the USB hard drive... I booted from USB thumb drive, then tried to install from that (using its built-in Debian Installer) onto a USB hard drive. That al