From: Casper BodenCummins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> IMHO, a better alternative to the large, best-endeavours kernel would be
> to ship a really tight kernel and use the installation front-end to
> configure additional support (in modules where possible or desirable).
The stripped-down kernel for 1.2 i
er Boden-Cummins.
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>From: David J. Evans[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 16 August 1996 14:12
>To:'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
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>Subject: Re: kernel size (was: How do I get GATEWAY2000 PS/2 mouse to
gt;Sent: 19 August 1996 21:06
>To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: kernel size (was: How do I get GATEWAY2000 PS/2 mouse to
>work?)
>
>> > The real question is whether the default kernel should be bloated with
>> > features, or pared down.
>
&
> > The real question is whether the default kernel should be bloated with
> > features, or pared down.
From: Todd Tyrone Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The default kernel need not contain anything that isn't necessary
> to boot. This means floppy, minix, and ramdisk drivers.
This is the way it wil
> > The real question is whether the default kernel should be bloated with
> > features, or pared down.
I disagree. The default kernel need not contain anything that isn't necessary
to boot. This means floppy, minix, and ramdisk drivers. Ide might be useful;
this should (imho) be loadable as a m
As Ben McKeegan said:
>
> On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Gilbert Ramirez Jr. wrote:
> >
> > I will unfortunately continue this thread with nothing but opinions. I
> > think that any person wanting to run Unix on their own computer should be
> > able to 1) download files, 2) uncompress and untar files, 3) t
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:04:04 +0100 Casper BodenCummins
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snipped stuff about PS/2 support not being present by
default ]
> The real question is whether the default kernel should be bloated with
> features, or pared down.
As a brand new Debian user who didn't even
On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Gilbert Ramirez Jr. wrote:
> > I think that you missed the original poster's point. Users shouldn't
> > have to recompile their kernels to get their PS/2 mice to work. Such a
>
> I will unfortunately continue this thread with nothing but opinions. I
> think that any person
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Casper BodenCummins wrote:
> This is an interesting issue. You might use similar justification for
> leaving all but the essentials out of the distributed kernel. This would
> encourage users to learn how to recompile the kernel, and demonstrate in
> doing so that it's surpris
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>Subject: Re: How do I get GATEWAY2000 PS/2 mouse to work ?
>
>As Mark Rahner said:
>> Todd, I'm sure that you're the neat
> >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 13 16:44:48 1996
> Someone (sorry, lost name) wrote:
> > -- one never knows if/when PS/2 mouse is going to be available in a
> >downloaded kernel, whereas serial support is virtually always there.
>
> Todd Fries ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) responded:
> > Oh give me a
As Mark Rahner said:
> Todd, I'm sure that you're the neatest computer guy on your block, but
> I think that you missed the original poster's point. Users shouldn't
> have to recompile their kernels to get their PS/2 mice to work. Such a
> requirement is enough to keep many potential Debian users
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Rahner)
> Users shouldn't have to recompile their kernels to get their PS/2 mice
> to work.
It's my fault. I built the generic kernel, and built in all of the modules
I could, and I missed the fact that if I put a "y" in this little square
box that I would then see a
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 13 16:44:48 1996
Someone (sorry, lost name) wrote:
> -- one never knows if/when PS/2 mouse is going to be available in a
>downloaded kernel, whereas serial support is virtually always there.
Todd Fries ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) re
> My experience is that there are a couple of good hardware reasons for
> getting serial mice instead of PS/2 mice:
> -- we accidentally fried a BIOS chip by delivering a static charge through
>a PS/2 mouse. This has never happened with a serial mouse,
>and leads me to suspect that the P
There is a package called bin86 in the devel area which contains the
as86 and ld86 binaries, which are necessary for kernel-compilation.
Once you have these, the compilation should proceed smoothly.
I don't know if this is properly a bug in the distribution, though, because
you don't need the x86
The standard kernel image from debian does not support ps2 mouse.
Look in the special-kernels directory. There is a config file for each
kernel to tell you what the kernel supports. I believe the kernel that was
built with config-1 contains ps2 mouse support. It should contain a
line like
CONFIG
> This did not work, however - the make failed (after the best part of an
> hour had elapsed) when it was unable to find "as86". I could not find
> as86 anywhere on my system, and so was stuck.
Hmm. Perhaps kernel-package should depend on bin86? You definitely
need the bin86 package to build a
As Mark Edward Johnston said:
>
> - The modules.tgz file on the special kernel 1 boot disk
> is corrupted. If this was fixed I could have obtained the
> module I needed by extracting it from this file.
>
I'd like to take time to point this out. I thought that I was the only
As Susan G. Kleinmann said:
>
> My experience is that there are a couple of good hardware reasons for
> getting serial mice instead of PS/2 mice:
>
> -- removing the PS/2 mouse frees up an IRQ.
Perhaps I am wrong, but a serial mouse also requires an IRQ... and a serial
port! With my PS/2 mouse I
Mike Taylor wrote:
>
> On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Mark Edward Johnston wrote:
>
> >
> > I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer,
> > but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to
> > find the mouse.
> >
> > The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434
Thanks to all who replied to this posting. I have now got the
mouse working.
To summarise :
Support for PS/2 mouse is not in the kernel on the standard Debian boot
disk, either built in or as a module. Thus, to use a PS/2 mouse one has
to obtain a kernel with the required support. The specia
Hey,
I had trouble with a PS/2 mouse to.. As many have.. I dont know if this
will work, but it did for me. ( I even got this advice from this list a
few weeks ago ).
In the XF86Config file, edit it... And where it says " Device Pointer "
Or somthing of that matter, it might say " /dev/mouse ".. D
on the other hand, most laptops with builtin mouse or trackball or
force stick or glidepoint seem to use the PS/2 interface... which is
an argument (polite request :-) for having it in the default kernel.
Can't free up the IRQ in that case either...
> On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Mike Taylor wrote:
> Lots of people seem to have problems getting PS2 mice up. My Gateway +
> PS2 worked fine under Slackware 3.0, but I still can't get it to work
> under Debian. I have tried all the stuff that you tried plus
> compiling a custom kernel (with the Debian sou
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Mark Edward Johnston wrote:
>
> I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer,
> but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to
> find the mouse.
>
> The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434
> and what seems to be a "PS/2" mouse.
Mark Edward Johnston wrote:
>
> I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer,
> but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to
> find the mouse.
>
> The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434
> and what seems to be a "PS/2" mouse.
>
> I have linked
I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer,
but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to
find the mouse.
The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434
and what seems to be a "PS/2" mouse.
I have linked /dev/mouse -> /dev/psmouse (-> /dev/psaux)
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