Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 08:13 pm, John Summerfield wrote: > Is this correct? >check_sender_access hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sender_access >check_sender_access hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/recipient_access Nope. Good eye - I made an error when transcribing changes in my local config to

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread John Summerfield
Kirk Strauser wrote: I've been following the thread about TMDA with some interest, mainly because I recently started rejecting about 99.9% of incoming spam *without* using challenge-response or other load-increasing methods. For details, read: http://subwiki.honeypot.net/cgi-bin/view/Freebsd

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 14:00, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Tuesday 2004-07-13 11:49 am, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > I like your attitude Kirk. I have used many of your snippets/pages to > > make things more workable in the WWOIT (Wonderful World Of Information > > Technology) > > Thanks, Greg! I appre

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 2004-07-13 01:17 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > As for my comment about false positives, here's one for you. > Literally. Check your logs for this message I'm sending right to you (I > normally trim out copies to the author) and see what it says. :D You just encouraged me to make a long-ove

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Kirk Strauser wrote: > I feel badly that your ISP has taken on a spammer as a paying customer, > and that it is causing problems for you and their other legitimate > customers, but it seems as though the blacklist is returning accurate > information. Technically, yes. It is returning a broad

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 2004-07-13 01:17 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > As well as legitimate mail. :) Very little. Most of the filtering magic is via greylisting which has proven to be remarkably effective. > But that's only 1/2 the equation. False positives are far more > destructive than false negatives. How

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Kirk Strauser wrote: > I've started using RulesDuJour, too. However, I really mean what I say in > the comments: by the time email gets to the ClamAV/SpamAssassin phase, the > vast majority (read: nearly all) of spam and viruses have already been > filtered. As well as legitimate mail. :)

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 2004-07-13 11:49 am, Greg Folkert wrote: > I like your attitude Kirk. I have used many of your snippets/pages to > make things more workable in the WWOIT (Wonderful World Of Information > Technology) Thanks, Greg! I appreciate the feedback. > I can say this, those .cf directives are

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 11:46, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I've been following the thread about TMDA with some interest, mainly because > I recently started rejecting about 99.9% of incoming spam *without* using > challenge-response or other load-increasing methods. For details, read: > > http://s

Re: How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Kirk Strauser wrote: > In a nutshell, before implementing this plan, I was receiving about 600 > emails and 50 spams per day. Afterward, I'm receiving about 600 emails and > 1 spam (yes, one) per day. In other words, I don't seem to be having any > false positives at all. Lots of good up

How I killed spam without TMDA

2004-07-13 Thread Kirk Strauser
I've been following the thread about TMDA with some interest, mainly because I recently started rejecting about 99.9% of incoming spam *without* using challenge-response or other load-increasing methods. For details, read: http://subwiki.honeypot.net/cgi-bin/view/Freebsd/FilterMailWithPostF