Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

2025-04-15 Thread David Christensen
On 4/15/25 07:19, Richard Owlett wrote: I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of [ https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/ TF

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

2025-04-15 Thread Nicolas George
Richard Owlett (HE12025-04-15): > I don't know how to approach the problem. > What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two > left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of > [ > https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/re

How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

2025-04-15 Thread Richard Owlett
I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of [ https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/TFP2021.pdf ]. Suggestions? TIA

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

2025-04-15 Thread Kent West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:32 AM Nicolas George wrote: > Richard Owlett (HE12025-04-15): > > I don't know how to approach the problem. > > What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the > two > > left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&am

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-07 Thread hlyg
On 4/7/25 10:58, Max Nikulin wrote: On 07/04/2025 10:36, hlyg wrote: in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks It seems you have solved your issue (using BIOS menu), so feel f

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/04/2025 10:36, hlyg wrote: in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks It seems you have solved your issue (using BIOS menu), so feel free to ignore my question. It is pure c

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-06 Thread hlyg
to Max Nikulin: perhaps my optiplex is quite old, it hasn't uefi compatibility mode though i have installed latest version in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/04/2025 21:54, hlyg wrote: i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work [...] how to remove them? I am curious which way you boot Debia

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
are resulted from previous installation on gpt disks > > how to remove them? Use efibootmgr. Gentoo has a nice page on using it. Jeff

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2025-04-05, Hans wrote: > Maybe for someione interesting: As I also have Windows on my drive, there is > an entry for Windows. I deleted this, because then I only have the entry > "debian". And this is tarting grub, which got an entry for Windows. > Dunno, if this is a good way, but it is w

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread hlyg
Thank Hans! it is really Dell issue. i follow your instruction, it works.

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Hans
ably they are resulted from previous installation on gpt disks > > how to remove them? I have a DELL Latitude, dual boot (Debian and Windows), should have same BIOS than yours. Go into the BIOS-setup, then look General -> Boot Sequence , on the right side you can delete or deativat

how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread hlyg
i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work most probably they are resulted from previous installation on gpt disks how to remove them?

Re: How do I submit a game to a distribution?

2025-04-04 Thread Steven Peckham
), some randomness, experience(overall and magical), as well as what you are carrying and how you approach the situation. You will find some occasional humor. It is 2D with some small amount of aspect ratio thrown in in some fight scenes. It requires a good keyboard, and at least 800x600 monitor

Re: How do I do...

2025-03-28 Thread David Christensen
@laalaa ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.11 Linux laalaa 5.10.0-34-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.234-1 (2025-02-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux When i plug-in my copy of 12.90, immediately l get all connection from other servers in my local group drop there connections. I'm at a loss how config

How do I do...

2025-03-28 Thread COMCAST
I have a working install of 12.90. But am experiencing a minor hiccup. When i plug-in my copy of 12.90, immediately l get all connection from other servers in my local group drop there connections. I'm at a loss how config this to stop?

Re: kernel 6.12.12 panic, where and how to place a bug report

2025-03-24 Thread songbird
Marco Möller wrote: > Often during boot, not always though, and never after KDE Plasma already > began to start, I observe a kernel panic. The system is Debian stable > "bookworm", but using kernel 6.12.12 from backports. I know, this is not > the officially recommended way to use Debian stable.

kernel 6.12.12 panic, where and how to place a bug report

2025-03-24 Thread Marco Möller
backported kernel will soon run stable Trixie, I think it wouldn't harm to anyway provide a bug report. Concerning a bug report, how to activate the proper log file, and where to find it then? I assume the best would be to have the log file collecting the necessary data about several boots,

MATE desktop - icon arrangement - order out of chaos - HOW?

2025-03-12 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm running Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 [Caja file manager] I've been running MATE since it was released as alternative to Gnome3. Over time /home/richard/Desktop has had many additions and deletions. The combination of that with manually manually arranging icons related to a current project res

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-11 Thread 🦓
2025-03-06[Thu]15:23 🦓 read that 2025-03-06[Thu]08:38 Geoff wrote You can use dpigs from debian-goodies package: debian-goodies' dpigs does a great job: debian)czyborra@localhost:~$ dpigs -H 142.3M libgl1-mesa-dri 79.3M libpython3.7-dev 65.2M emacs-common 57.7M libllvm7 43.1M guile-2.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-11 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
Greg Wooledge writes: > Why are you assuming that the space you want can be freed by removing > packages? > > For the vast majority of people, if disk space is running low, it's > because *data* files are piling up, and may be in need of some trimming. Pro tip: running "sudo apt clean" often fre

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-09 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/8/25 8:07 AM, Miriami wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > > > I haven't used the MATE desktop environment, but I guess it also > > has this: 1. Right click on a PDF file, in the pop-up right-click > > menu, chooss 'open this file with ...' 2. In the then-popped-up > > dialog a

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/03/2025 21:30, Marco Moock wrote: xdg-mime query default application/pdf Just a word of caution. It does not necessary mean that applications or xdg-open will use the reported handler. E.g. in corner cases Gtk and KDE interprets mimeapps.list in a bit different way. exo-open (that i

Re: TEMORARY workaround - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

2025-03-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 09/03/2025 01:21, Richard Owlett wrote: I do not believe using xdg-mime is a *legitimate" technique in this instance. It wasn't used to *cause* the problem. It *shouldn't* be used to supposedly "solve" the problem. A wrong assumption. On 08/03/2025 23:27, Richard Owlett wrote: Before toda

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 09/03/2025 04:55, Mike Kupfer wrote: I don't have any ideas for how you ended up with a different PDF viewer. Behavior varies across various DE. It may be enough to just install another application that may open PDF files. If media type association is not explicitly configured then

SUCCESS!!! - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

2025-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
n Caja, right click on a PDF file. Click on "Properties". Click on the "Open With" tab, select Atril. That worked as expected the FIRST time a PDF document was chosen [i.e. that action selected a DEFAULT viewer]. It subsequent use could select an alternate viewer for curre

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Marco Moock
On 08.03.2025 17:30 Uhr Richard Owlett wrote: > Before today I never heard of anything beginning with "xdg". Now you have heard about it, so use it. > I'm looking for the specific MATE tool. ;} I think that is maybe handled by the file manager. Which one do you use? -- kind regards Marco Sen

TEMORARY workaround - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

2025-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
do *NOT* try solution described below *UNLESS* unless you know how to recover. On 3/8/25 7:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Mike Kupfer
tions" (in the "Personal" section). In the window that appears, click on the "Office" tab. Set "Document Viewer" to Atril. 2. In Caja, right click on a PDF file. Click on "Properties". Click on the "Open With" tab, select Atril. I don'

Re: TEMORARY workaround - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

2025-03-08 Thread Andy Smith
cannot easily guess which user-facing frontend made the change to your MIME type associations, but you have been given instructions on how to change it to what you want. > Suggestions please. I suggest to stop assuming you know better than everyone else when you ask for help. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 3/8/25 8:07 AM, Miriami wrote: Hi Richard, I haven't used the MATE desktop environment, but I guess it also has this: 1. Right click on a PDF file, in the pop-up right-click menu, chooss 'open this file with ...' 2. In the then-popped-up dialog asking which program to be used to open this P

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 3/8/25 8:52 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:41:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad. I assumed that Edit Preferen

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Miriami
Hi Richard, I haven't used the MATE desktop environment, but I guess it also has this: 1. Right click on a PDF file, in the pop-up right-click menu, chooss 'open this file with ...' 2. In the then-popped-up dialog asking which program to be used to open this PDF file, select the program desired,

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 3/8/25 8:30 AM, Marco Moock wrote: On 08.03.2025 14:50 Uhr Richard Owlett wrote: It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad. I assumed that Edit Preferences was the place to go. But under Browser->Helper Applications i

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 3/8/25 7:55 AM, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2025 at 8:41 AM From: "Richard Owlett" To: "debian-user" Subject: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 It used to be that clickin

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:41:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > > It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. > I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad. > > I assumed that Edit Preferences was the place to go. > But und

How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad. I assumed that Edit Preferences was the place to go. But under Browser->Helper Applications it says "always ask" indicating system isn't

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 23:26:55 +0100, 🦓 wrote: > 2025-03-07[Fri]23:14 🦓 read that > 2025-03-07[Fri]07:21 Greg Wooledge wrote > > That's conceptually similar to the little program that I wrote, which > > you can get from . It's in perl. > > Wow! Looks backward comp

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07 Thread 🦓
2025-03-07[Fri]23:27 🦓 read that 2025-03-07[Fri]10:20 Jonathan Dowland wrote I favour "duc" (as opposed to, e.g. ncdu) duc index / duc ui / There are several duc browsers: ui is an ncurses-style TUI; there's also CLI, GUI and web-based ones. The GUI and web-based ones use a nice

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07 Thread 🦓
2025-03-07[Fri]23:14 🦓 read that 2025-03-07[Fri]07:21 Greg Wooledge wrote That's conceptually similar to the little program that I wrote, which you can get from . It's in perl. Wow! Looks backward compatible with perl4.036 - what do i need to write to make ds i

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07 Thread songbird
Runamile Czyborra wrote: > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use > to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? i run apt-get autoclean once in a while af

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 10:20:30 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > For Debian packages specifically, you can use dpigs from the debian-goodies > package. I wrote an alternative for situations where I don't want to install > debian-goodies and its transitive dependencies: > > awk -v RS='' '/St

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Mar 5, 2025 at 2:22 PM GMT, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? I favour "duc

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-06 Thread David
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 at 15:46, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > Pro tip: running "sudo apt clean" often frees up significant disk space > (relatively, in machines with tiny storage capacity) by removing all > cached package files from /var/cache/apt/archives. Hi, another pro-tip: While 'apt-get' does keep

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 09:59:47 -0500, Eben King wrote: > Yeah. Many of the packages in deborphan's output are things I actually > want to keep, and I think that that if you remove something, all of its > requirements are still installed. Unless there's a smart package > manager that goes throug

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-06 Thread Eben King
On 3/6/25 00:21, David Wright wrote: On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 17:04:12 (-0500), Eben King wrote: On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomi

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 15:21:32 +0100, 🦓 wrote: > what would i want to sudo aptitude purge here to free 1 gig? Why are you assuming that the space you want can be freed by removing packages? For the vast majority of people, if disk space is running low, it's because *data* files are piling up, a

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-06 Thread 🦓
about deborphan am i havin da same sentiment plus hard time tryna interpret da deborphan decimals due 2 my insufficient rtfm of manpages.debian.org/bookworm/deborphan/deborphan.1.en.html (debian)czyborra@localhost:~$ sudo aptitude install deborphan […] Unpacking dialog (1.3-20190211-1) ... Set

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 17:04:12 (-0500), Eben King wrote: > On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: > > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use > > to ergonomically present installed candid

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Geoff
🦓 wrote: sudo aptitude purge libqt5webengine5 blackmailed me to purge qutebrowser now. sudo aptitude purge libllvm7 demands i pure ffmpeg links2 xorg. sudo aptitude search l10n local | grep ^i finds no localedef. sudo aptitude purge liblocale-gettext-perl also purges console-setup debconf-i18n t

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Eben King
On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? deborphan --show-section --sh

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread 🦓
sudo aptitude purge libqt5webengine5 blackmailed me to purge qutebrowser now. sudo aptitude purge libllvm7 demands i pure ffmpeg links2 xorg. sudo aptitude search l10n local | grep ^i finds no localedef. sudo aptitude purge liblocale-gettext-perl also purges console-setup debconf-i18n tasksel xorg.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread 🦓
Op wo 5 mrt 2025 om 18:05 schreef 🦓 : > my sudo apt install ncdu cost me 0.000981GB. > Merely 0.981GB alias 98K.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread 🦓
ncdu does the trick! thank u all 4 ur answers. 12G vosk bloat won't ever fit into my available 1G on my 11G MMC: (debian)czyborra@localhost:~$ df -hl / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mmcblk0p1 11G 8.7G 1.1G 90% / my pip3 install vosk had failed before even starting a

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread 🦓
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Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2025-03-05 07:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Start by running ncdu in y

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/5/25 à 15:22, Runamile Czyborra a écrit : my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Clearing apt's cache migh

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:22:15PM +0100, Runamile Czyborra wrote: > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to > ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Note

how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Runamile Czyborra
my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes?

Re: how to prevent evolution from archiving mails?

2025-02-19 Thread Jan Claeys
On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 06:51 +0100, hw wrote: > It looks as if I'm never gona find a fix.  Subscribing to the mailing > list doesn't seem to work, either, and I don't like forums. There is #gnome-evolution on IRC also (on irc.libera.chat or irc.gnome.org which points to the former). BTW: mail arc

Re: how to prevent evolution from archiving mails?

2025-02-15 Thread Andrii Kalashnykov
On Sat, 2025-02-15 at 08:21 +0100, hw wrote: > On Fri, 2025-02-14 at 14:24 +0300, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: > > > On Fri, 2025-02-14 at 07:13 +0100, hw wrote: --- 8< -- cut -- 8< --- > > > I tried several times and never got the confirmation messag

Re: how to prevent evolution from archiving mails?

2025-02-14 Thread hw
On Fri, 2025-02-14 at 14:24 +0300, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: > On Fri, 2025-02-14 at 07:13 +0100, hw wrote: > > > On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 17:13 +0300, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 06:51 +0100, hw wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2025-01-30 at 18:21 +0300, Andrii Kalashnyko

Re: how to prevent evolution from archiving mails?

2025-02-14 Thread Andrii Kalashnykov
On Fri, 2025-02-14 at 07:13 +0100, hw wrote: > On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 17:13 +0300, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: > > > On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 06:51 +0100, hw wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2025-01-30 at 18:21 +0300, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I’ll see if I can make a bug report ... > > > >

Re: how to prevent evolution from archiving mails?

2025-02-13 Thread hw
On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 17:13 +0300, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: > On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 06:51 +0100, hw wrote: > > > On Thu, 2025-01-30 at 18:21 +0300, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: > > > > > > > > I'll see if I can make a bug report ... > > > > > > > > > > Also, try asking a question on the GNOME proj

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-13 Thread Chris Green
Greg wrote: > On 2025-02-13, Chris Green wrote: > > Max Nikulin wrote: > >> On 13/02/2025 01:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> > Now Debian has*two* completely separate > >> > ways to specify a default application for a role. > >> > >> I believed there are at least 4 ways (besides settings specific

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-13 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-13, Chris Green wrote: > Max Nikulin wrote: >> On 13/02/2025 01:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > Now Debian has*two* completely separate >> > ways to specify a default application for a role. >> >> I believed there are at least 4 ways (besides settings specific to >> particular applicat

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 13/02/2025 09:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 08:56:47 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: - *browser alternatives - BROWSER environment - mailcap for text/html I have realized that I do not have an example of an application that determines https: scheme handler from mailcap (it is

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
Max Nikulin wrote: > On 13/02/2025 01:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Now Debian has*two* completely separate > > ways to specify a default application for a role. > > I believed there are at least 4 ways (besides settings specific to > particular applications) > - *browser alternatives > - BROWSER

Re: How to choose which 'printer' to install

2025-02-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Feb 2025 at 16:40:24 (+), Chris Green wrote: > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 8:20 AM Chris Green wrote: > > > > > > When I run CUPS 'add printer' with a new (to the network) Laserjet > > > M15W I see four possible printers to add:- > > > > > > HP LaserJet M15w (

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 08:56:47 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 13/02/2025 01:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Now Debian has*two* completely separate > > ways to specify a default application for a role. > > I believed there are at least 4 ways (besides settings specific to > particular applications)

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 13/02/2025 01:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: Now Debian has*two* completely separate ways to specify a default application for a role. I believed there are at least 4 ways (besides settings specific to particular applications) - *browser alternatives - BROWSER environment - mailcap for text/html

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:34:32 -0600, David Wright wrote: > urlCommand "sensible-browser '%s'" hobbit:~$ type -a sensible-browser sensible-browser is /usr/bin/sensible-browser sensible-browser is /bin/sensible-browser hobbit:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/sensible-browser -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1290

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg (HE12025-02-12): >> What is going on? You suggested examining the source code. > > No, I suggested reading the documentation. Others have suggested other > avenues that lead to understanding. These are good answers. The > suggestions to uninstall and ran

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-02-12): > What is going on? You suggested examining the source code. No, I suggested reading the documentation. Others have suggested other avenues that lead to understanding. These are good answers. The suggestions to uninstall and randomly fiddle with the order are polluting the go

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Nicolas George wrote: > > The only way to achieve a reliable result is to understand what is going > on. I am flabbergasted that so many people on this list do not start What is going on? You suggested examining the source code. For the end user, this might be arduous task at best.

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, David Wright wrote: >> > > >> > Unfortunately, as Greg Wooledge has already pointed out, there is no >> > universal standard. If there was, this thread would've stopped ages >> > ago. >> >> I am really surprised that this thread is so long. However I am still >> curious whether xf

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-02-12): > Simply reversing the installation order of the two browsers seems the > most direct and easiest solution. It might achieve the result. A solution… What will the OP do if they install another browser to try something and it becomes the default one? Uninstall them all and r

Re: How to choose which 'printer' to install?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 8:20 AM Chris Green wrote: > > > > When I run CUPS 'add printer' with a new (to the network) Laserjet > > M15W I see four possible printers to add:- > > > > HP LaserJet M15w (FD27B6) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP L

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Feb 2025 at 22:54:15 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 12/02/2025 22:09, Greg wrote: > > On 2025-02-12, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > Certainly, but before delving into source code I would try the standard > > > (XDG) way to configure media types and applications associations. > > > > > Unfort

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:36:46 - (UTC) > Greg wrote: > > Hello Greg, > >>What exactly is he after? I was under the impression it was setting the >>default browser to Vivaldi. > > Yes, but as has been explained, there are multiple ways in which a > browser c

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Chris Green wrote: > Anssi Saari wrote: > > Chris Green writes: > > > > > Installing epiphany just added it as a choice but left vivaldi as the > > > configured browser, but still epiphany grabbed everything. > > > > Have you considered you may get better information if you actually > > define

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:36:46 - (UTC) Greg wrote: Hello Greg, >What exactly is he after? I was under the impression it was setting the >default browser to Vivaldi. Yes, but as has been explained, there are multiple ways in which a browser can be chosen. Some, most notably, circumventing sys

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/02/2025 22:09, Greg wrote: On 2025-02-12, Max Nikulin wrote: Certainly, but before delving into source code I would try the standard (XDG) way to configure media types and applications associations. Unfortunately, as Greg Wooledge has already pointed out, there is no universal standard.

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
Greg wrote: > On 2025-02-12, Nicolas George wrote: > > Max Nikulin (HE12025-02-12): > >> I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. > > > > At worst, the source code is the documentation. > > I think Chris had the right idea. Install Epiphany first, and then > Vivaldi, instead

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:09:38 - (UTC) > Greg wrote: > > Hello Greg, > >>Simply reversing the installation order of the two browsers seems the >>most direct and easiest solution.=20 > > Still with, of course, no guarantee of successfully achieving exactly >

Re: How to choose which 'printer' to install?

2025-02-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 8:20 AM Chris Green wrote: > > When I run CUPS 'add printer' with a new (to the network) Laserjet > M15W I see four possible printers to add:- > > HP LaserJet M15w (FD27B6) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > HP LaserJet M14-M

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:09:38 - (UTC) Greg wrote: Hello Greg, >Simply reversing the installation order of the two browsers seems the >most direct and easiest solution. Still with, of course, no guarantee of successfully achieving exactly what Chris is after. -- Regards _ "Valid si

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 12/02/2025 20:55, Nicolas George wrote: >> Max Nikulin (HE12025-02-12): >>> I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. >> >> At worst, the source code is the documentation. > > Certainly, but before delving into source code I would try the

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/02/2025 20:55, Nicolas George wrote: Max Nikulin (HE12025-02-12): I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. At worst, the source code is the documentation. Certainly, but before delving into source code I would try the standard (XDG) way to configure media types and

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Nicolas George wrote: > Max Nikulin (HE12025-02-12): >> I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. > > At worst, the source code is the documentation. I think Chris had the right idea. Install Epiphany first, and then Vivaldi, instead of the other way around. Pro

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Chris Green wrote: >> >> If you want a Linux way to solve the issue: first, read the >> documentation of xfce-terminal to see how it decides which web browser >> to run; then read the documentation of that mechanism to see how to >> configure it. &g

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (HE12025-02-12): > I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. At worst, the source code is the documentation. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: How to choose which 'printer' to install?

2025-02-12 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 12, 2025, Chris Green wrote: > When I run CUPS 'add printer' with a new (to the network) Laserjet > M15W I see four possible printers to add:- > > HP LaserJet M15w (FD27B6) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
re I > > want to be. > > That might be a way, but it would be less efficient than installing > Windows or Macos instead of Linux. > > If you want a Linux way to solve the issue: first, read the > documentation of xfce-terminal to see how it decides which web browser > to r

How to choose which 'printer' to install?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
When I run CUPS 'add printer' with a new (to the network) Laserjet M15W I see four possible printers to add:- HP LaserJet M15w (FD27B6) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) HP LaserJet M15w (HP Laser

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
> > > very much can install something for one user and not for another in a > > > browser. > > > > How? If I install epiphany using alt then it sets itself as the > > default browser in just about every location I know about and some > > that I don't. The

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 07:18:23AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:06:53 +, Chris Green wrote: > > The specific thing that bit me when I installed epiphany was clicking > > on a web link in a terminal (xfce4-terminal) window. Instead of > > opening the link in the alrea

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:06:53 +, Chris Green wrote: > The specific thing that bit me when I installed epiphany was clicking > on a web link in a terminal (xfce4-terminal) window. Instead of > opening the link in the already running vivaldi, in another workspace > (which is the way I like it)

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/02/2025 17:23, Nicolas George wrote: If you want a Linux way to solve the issue: first, read the documentation of xfce-terminal to see how it decides which web browser to run; I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. Perhaps XFCE has a configuration menu. Most GUI

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
one user and not for another in a > > browser. > > How? If I install epiphany using alt then it sets itself as the > default browser in just about every location I know about and some > that I don't. These settings apply to all users on the system. Installing a browser is v

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