Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-06 Thread Frank Copeland
Jon Earle wrote: > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availability of > addresses in the clear within the list archives, with

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-04 Thread Peter S Galbraith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I read this "list" via Newsguy.com. I subscribed, to get > posting rights, but the address forwards to /dev/null. You don't need to subscribe to be able to post. > I tried reading this mailing list with an email client. > Had to unsubscribe after a few hours. Apart

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Carlos Sousa
On 3 Oct 2003 21:10:05 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I tried reading this mailing list with an email client. > Had to unsubscribe after a few hours. I've been "reading this mailing list with an email client" (and posting to it as well) for the past two years. Still doing it. Still alive. -

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread cls-du
I read this "list" via Newsguy.com. I subscribed, to get posting rights, but the address forwards to /dev/null. Newsguy filters out all the spam. I have a large spam blocking list, http://www.greens.org/about/r.txt (tcprules format) and yesterday I blocked a big chunk of Global Crossing, because

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Tom
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 08:33:33PM +0100, Carlos Sousa wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Jon Earle wrote: > > > > I've been forced to change my email address, thanks to the debian mailing > > list. > > No, it was thanks to spam. You're confusing the issues here. The Debian > list i

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Carlos Sousa
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Jon Earle wrote: > > I've been forced to change my email address, thanks to the debian mailing > list. No, it was thanks to spam. You're confusing the issues here. The Debian list is not the enemy, spammers are. -- Carlos Sousa http://vbc.dyndns.org/ --

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Friday 03 October 2003 1:25 pm, Dan Anderson wrote: >4) Anything with .pif, .bat, .exe attached is probably spam. Quarantine >it (unless it's from your somebody on your whitelist). I'd add HTML email as well, Dan. FWIW, I'm suprised that HTML email requesting support is sent to this listserv

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Clive Menzies
On (04/10/03 01:40), David Palmer. wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT), Jon Earle said: > > > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > > open posting policy and their email-

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread John Hasler
J. Bruce Fields writes: > In fact it is not, because it greatly increases the negative impact of > spam and virus mail (most of which is sent with forged "from" addresses) > by multiplying the amount of useless email that is sent. Such useless bounces typically account for about 25% of my email. -

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:21:20PM -0400, Dan Anderson wrote: > > So, again, please don't send automatic replies. > > Although you may not personally approve of the method it is an accepted > method of blocking spam. YMMV and such. There certainly is software out there (virus software at

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Anderson
> So, again, please don't send automatic replies. Although you may not personally approve of the method it is an accepted method of blocking spam. YMMV and such. > On such an email address I'd be even more wary about using an > autoresponder because I don't want people that are potenti

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:00:52PM -0400, Dan Anderson wrote: > > It isn't just people on listserv's that will be annoyed: please never > > send automatic replies; the "from" address is a lie anyway. > > This is one of the reasons I put a caveat about listservs not following > rules. The pr

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:25:16 -0400, Dan Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > I've had very good success with the following: > > 1) Send all e-mails with your name not listed as a receipient to a > probable spam folder. After a few weeks of tweaking (mailing lists and > newsletters will get send

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Anderson
> It isn't just people on listserv's that will be annoyed: please never > send automatic replies; the "from" address is a lie anyway. This is one of the reasons I put a caveat about listservs not following rules. However, FWIW, on a business only address (which isn't subscribing to a list

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:25:16PM -0400, Dan Anderson wrote: > 5) Make anybody e-mailing to your address who is not on your whitelist > (besides listservs!) respond to an automatic reply to be added to your > whitelist. Most spammers won't respond (although people on the listserv > may get angry

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:58:46 -0700, Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:13:28PM -0400, Jon Earle wrote: >> [1] Once the message is posted, how does said newbie receive replies if >> those helping just reply to the list. The whole policy makes _no_ sense >> whatsoev

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Martin Stigge
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 18:13, Jon Earle wrote: > This open list policy that so many lists have, while it _may_, and I'm > placing a lot of faith and emphasis on the 'may', offer the occasional > newbie or (individual who couldn't be bothered to subscribe multiple > addresses) the ability to post[1],

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 03 Oct 2003, J. Bruce Fields wrote: [snip] > > Personally I gave up on the idea of hiding my email address a long time > ago. I want people with a legitimate reason to be able to reach me > without jumping through hoops. With dictionary attacks against mail > servers and third-party leaks of

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Anderson
I've had very good success with the following: 1) Send all e-mails with your name not listed as a receipient to a probable spam folder. After a few weeks of tweaking (mailing lists and newsletters will get send there too) you will find just about everything in there the probable spam folder is sp

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT), Jon Earle said: > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availability of > addresses

RE: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread skippi
Yes, this is a pain. I am subscribed with two addresses. It's a long story, but at the other one, I get no spam. This email address I subscribed about 48 hours ago and instantly got attacked with virus emails. I am getting 50 to 60 of them a day. It's very annoying. But, there doesn't seem

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT), Jon Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availabili

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Bill Moseley
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:13:28PM -0400, Jon Earle wrote: > [1] Once the message is posted, how does said newbie receive replies if > those helping just reply to the list. The whole policy makes _no_ sense > whatsoever. +1 I could not agree more. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UN

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:13:28PM -0400, Jon Earle wrote: > This open list policy that so many lists have, while it _may_, and I'm > placing a lot of faith and emphasis on the 'may', offer the occasional > newbie or (individual who couldn't be bothered to subscribe multiple > addresses) the abilit

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread NOSPAM
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:13:28PM -0400, Jon Earle wrote: > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availability of > addresses i

Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Earle
I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availability of addresses in the clear within the list archives, within _minutes_, I started re