Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 09:41 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > On Sunday 14 October 2012 21:43:59 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > > su > > > is enough. > > > > No, it should be > > > > su - > > lisi@Tux-II:~$ su > Password: > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# whoami > root >

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-19 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 14 October 2012 21:43:59 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > su > > is enough. > > No, it should be > > su - lisi@Tux-II:~$ su Password: root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# whoami root root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# > > alt-F2 > > gksu gedit > > That's good > > gksu

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote: >> >> Do you really need LVM? > > I have partitioned drives n the past (using windows). Not a big deal. > Easy enough for sure. LVM intrigued me and I wanted to learn. The > logical volumes can be size adjusted (if need be) all w

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > For example, when I read helpful suggestions such as: > > Type this > > 1 | su root > 2 | gedit > > I don't understand. What is the 1 and the 2 for? Do I have to type > that in as well? No, don't type the numbers, you'll probably be told "command not found" :) It's very m

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > I know I can go to the menu in terminal under.Terminal-->Reset and > Clear and it will just give me a terminal window with a blinking > cursor. Yeah remember msods; IIRC there was the "clear" command to clear the screen (or was that "cls"?). You can also type that in

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Lisi writes: > On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote: >> > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to >> > identify other OSes on your system. >> >> I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider

Re(2): GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-17 Thread peasthope
* From: Joe * Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:14:20 +0100 > If you install it in the Debian partition, you will need to run > this bootloader from the first stage of the Windows bootloader. This might help and it cites the Grub manual. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_loading Regards,

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> http://wiki.debianforum.de/Google_Chrome Sorry, this link is in German, I didn't notice it :D, ignore this browser. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.o

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20121016_164416, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 13:31 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > > > > > Which browser? > > > ^^ > > > > > I'm only using the browsers that installed with the debian netinst > > > > > file

Re: code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-17 Thread Wally Lepore
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:53:59PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > > I understand. Thank you for correcting my humble mistake. Will comply. > > You're welcome - and whilst I'm at it, welcome to the list! I hope you > find it > useful. > Thank yo

Re: code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:53:59PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > I understand. Thank you for correcting my humbly mistake. Will comply. You're welcome - and whilst I'm at it, welcome to the list! I hope you find it useful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Joe Zien
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 22:41 -0400, Joe Zien wrote: debian squeeze does not use grub legacy. I would suggest you try mepis 11 and install grub legacy in the MBR. It would automatically create menu.lst in /boot/grub and add all operating systems in menu.lst. It's no big deal

Re: code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-16 Thread Wally Lepore
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Jon Dowland wrote: >> >> When communicating on a Debian mailing list, please direct your emails at >> the list address and do not CC the participants explicitly. For this and >> other >> rules, please see t

Re: code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-16 Thread Wally Lepore
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Jon Dowland wrote: > Hi Wally, > > When communicating on a Debian mailing list, please direct your emails at > the list address and do not CC the participants explicitly. For this and other > rules, please see the Code of Conduct at >

code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-16 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi Wally, When communicating on a Debian mailing list, please direct your emails at the list address and do not CC the participants explicitly. For this and other rules, please see the Code of Conduct at Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to d

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 13:31 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > > > > Which browser? > > ^^ > > > > I'm only using the browsers that installed with the debian netinst > > > > file. > > > Wally, you have unfortunately not answered

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 13:31 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > > > Which browser? > ^^ > > > I'm only using the browsers that installed with the debian netinst > > > file. > Wally, you have unfortunately not answered the question I asked. I have > marked it above. I suspect Iceweas

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 12:51:17 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 02:44:19PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > > >On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lisi wrote: > > >> On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote: > > >> > > >> Now I can finally join the ranks of Debian users

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 02:44:19PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > >On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lisi wrote: > >> On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote: > >> > >> Now I can finally join the ranks of Debian users and ask operational > >> questions, help others and start the real up

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 06:58:33PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > It was a struggle initially but I learned. It was my first real > progress with certain things that needed to be done with Linux. I had > no idea that files needed to be verified before burning to CD. They don't. It is just an added p

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:58:48PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:52 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > > Also I was just trying to respond to everyone's reply. > > You don't need to do that. +1 :) Honestly, you don't need to, unless there is something pertinent to add. -- "If

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 07:05:54 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 09:36:28PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > > Yes, and you don't need to say > > su root. > > Just > > su > > is enough. > > True, but then su on its own won't "source" root's environment, whereas > "su -" will source root's e

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-16 Thread Brian
On Tue 16 Oct 2012 at 05:38:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 00:09 +0100, Brian wrote: > >ls -l /usr/bin/os-prober > > > > If you get no output, my first statement is incorrect. > > > So if there's the output > "ls: cannot access /usr/bin/os-prober: No such file or dire

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 09:36:28PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > Yes, and you don't need to say > su root. > Just > su > is enough. True, but then su on its own won't "source" root's environment, whereas "su -" will source root's environment as though you'd actually logged in as root. Try them both t

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 22:41 -0400, Joe Zien wrote: > debian squeeze does not use grub legacy. > I would suggest you try mepis 11 and install grub legacy in the MBR. > It would automatically create menu.lst in /boot/grub and add all > operating systems > in menu.lst. It's no big deal to use anoth

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 19:17 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > >> Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? > > > > PS: Or have you ever used a QL, C64 or similar computer? > > I have no idea what QL, or a C64 is prior to googli

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 00:09 +0100, Brian wrote: >ls -l /usr/bin/os-prober > > If you get no output, my first statement is incorrect. So if there's the output "ls: cannot access /usr/bin/os-prober: No such file or directory" your statement is correct? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 18:58 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > I am familiar with some DOS commands The commands are simmilar, e.g. DOS | LINUX +-- CD | cd MD | mkdir The Linux terminal can help you, when using the Tab-key. Just type a character or some characters and then the Tab-key. [spi

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Joe Zien
Wally Lepore wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Joe Zien wrote: Wally Lepore wrote: Hi Debain Users, I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze' on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive (/dev/sda) and Debian will be installed on the 2

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? > > PS: Or have you ever used a QL, C64 or similar computer? I have no idea what QL, or a C64 is prior to googling. Is this QL ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL http://www.r

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Oct 2012 at 17:17:42 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote: > > > > No, Wally. Not "if all else fails". As I understand it, you actually need > > this package to do what you want to do. So grit your teeth and do it. As I > > said, I am no expert on

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? > Hi Ralf, Yes but only the most basic. As I started on this whole linux adventure I dusted off my DOS 6.0 / 6.2 books that have been sitting on my book shelf since the mid 1990's. I ha

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Oct 2012 at 14:59:21 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > My system won't let me log in as root. It will - you are just not talking to it nicely. And not acting on the good advice given already. Lisi has the advice to use CTRL-ALT-F1. This will take you to a virtual terminal. Type "root" at th

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? PS: Or have you ever used a QL, C64 or similar computer? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1350339825.2252.109.camel@localhost.localdomain

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
@Neal (really at Neal, not at Wally): We already confused Wally. Let's avoid sudo, since sudo can be set up in various ways and IIRC a default Debian comes without sudo. At the moment it's only important to explain that we don't login as root by a display manager, in the OP's case it for sure is G

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:24 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >> > Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to >> > learn faste, resp. it might better explain ho

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:52 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Also I was just trying to respond to everyone's reply. You don't need to do that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
We did confuse you with some explanations and I won't continue it. Can you open a terminal emulation? If so, let's continue step by step. Once you're familiar with Linux, you can allow a user to execute something in a safe way, that normally only can be executed by root. I suspect that a defaul

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday, October 15, 2012 05:19:29 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to > learn faste, resp. it might better explain how to e.g. become root in a > terminal emulation. Or, perhaps, a simple list of ways to become root without any clutt

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Lisi wrote: > > > On Monday 15 October 2012 20:25:54 Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> >> wrote: >> > Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk. >> > >> > Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but >> > >> >>

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:24 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to > > learn faste, resp. it might better explain how to e.g. become root in a > > terminal emulation. > > > >

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote: > > PS It would really be much easier if you just replied to the list, rather than > to the list and to all of us separately. It makes replying easier. It is > also what the Debian list askes for in its code of practice. Ok got it. I understand. Than

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 21:57 +0100, Lisi wrote: > My husband says, why do I spend my time telling you again. My answer > was that I get a lot of help myself. But his inferred suggestion is, > I'm afraid, right. I can't keep telling you the same thing over > again. A video might be the best help.

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to > learn faste, resp. it might better explain how to e.g. become root in a > terminal emulation. > Yes, I will search youtube. Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:22 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote: >> > Wally Lepore writes: >> > >> >> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb) >> >> for partitioning, I used t

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to learn faste, resp. it might better explain how to e.g. become root in a terminal emulation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@list

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote: >> > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to >> > identify other OSes on your system. >> >> I haven't installed an

Re: OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 16:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Are you saying that all these commands are used > strictly in "Terminal"? For the moment my answer is YES to avoid confusion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:32 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Sounds good but how do I log into root? Open a terminal emulation, use the menu to do it, you already found out how to do this. It will look similar to this: [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ Then type su - and push enter [spinymouse@archlinux ~

Re: OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/15/2012 10:25 PM, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: >> On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 13:51 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >>> Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf, [snip] >> >> Since you've got knowledge about computers, it will be easy for you to >> s

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Ok Ralf, I will try your suggestions. As soon as I figure how to > configure my system to log-in as root? Don't configure your WM/DE to allow you to log in as root. You don't need this. You only need to be root in a terminal sometimes. I ma

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Lisi
On Monday 15 October 2012 20:25:54 Wally Lepore wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf > > wrote: > > Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk. > > > > Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but > > > >> 1 | su root > >> 2 | gedit > > > > isn't ok. > > > > You

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:22 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote: > > Wally Lepore writes: > > > >> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb) > >> for partitioning, I used the 'Manual' setup and chose Logical Volume > >> Manager (LVM)

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Lisi
On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote: > > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to > > identify other OSes on your system. > > I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider that if all else > fai

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I won't confuse you Wally, or spread FUD, using the default GRUB seems > to be the best way for a beginner, because it's the default boot loader > for most distros. > > Personally I prefer GRUB legacy, the outdated, completely different > pred

Re: OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 13:51 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >> Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf, [snip] > > Since you've got knowledge about computers, it will be easy for you to > switch to Linux. You should take a look at "shell glob

Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I won't confuse you Wally, or spread FUD, using the default GRUB seems to be the best way for a beginner, because it's the default boot loader for most distros. Personally I prefer GRUB legacy, the outdated, completely different predecessor of the current GRUB. IMO it's much easier to use. Many ex

OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 13:51 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf, [snip] Since you've got knowledge about computers, it will be easy for you to switch to Linux. You should take a look at "shell globbing" and take a look at some beginners guide for "shell scrip

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 13:39 -0700, Go Linux wrote: >> --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> > From: Ralf Mardorf >> > Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives >> > To:

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: >> su >> is enough. > > No, it should be > > su - > >> alt-F2 >> gksu gedit > > That's good > > gksu app > > my recommendation > > su -c app > > isn't good. Ok, I will apply when I log into 'root

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Go Linux wrote: > --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> From: Ralf Mardorf >> Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives >> To: "debian-user" >> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:24 PM >

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 14 October 2012 16:20:48 Wally Lepore wrote: >> The link starts off by suggesting I log in as user and then enter the >> following initial command. >> >> 1 | su root >> 2 | gedit >> >> I went to Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal (I a

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk. > > Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but > >> 1 | su root >> 2 | gedit > > isn't ok. > > You can, but you don't need to add "root", but if you'll launch GUI > stuff like Gedit,

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote: > Wally Lepore writes: > >> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb) >> for partitioning, I used the 'Manual' setup and chose Logical Volume >> Manager (LVM) non-encryption method. > > Do you really need LVM? I have partiti

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote: > > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to > identify other OSes on your system. I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider that if all else fails. Thanks Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >> >> Debian Squeeze installed successfully ! >> >> The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian >> simply by changing the boot order in the BIOS (hdd-0 or hdd-1).

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
>On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lisi wrote: >> On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote: >> >> Now I can finally join the ranks of Debian users and ask operational >> questions, help others and start the real uphill climb in learning all >> aspects of linux. A lot more reading and s

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:49:14 -0400 > Wally Lepore wrote: > >> >> I can still boot either OS (win2k or Debian) simply by changing the >> boot order in BIOS. Not a big deal. Sure beats swapping drives in and >> out of the computer. :) >> > Editing Win 2

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote: > On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 12:15:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > >> I only have one shot to get this right or else I have to scrub the >> install and start over. > > Please, no! No more installing from you. We are exhausted. :) I know but its frustratin

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:40:40 -0400 > Wally Lepore wrote: > >> >> If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the >> MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I >> don't want to answer "NO" to the questio

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:40:40 AM Wally Lepore wrote: >> Hi Debain Users, >> >> I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze' >> on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive >> (/dev/sda) a

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf, Your support is very much appreciated. I've read all postings and had trouble keeping up with replying to all my questions that have been so very supportive. I would like to take pause for a moment and kindly update you all on my situation. I did in

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 13:39 -0700, Go Linux wrote: > --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > From: Ralf Mardorf > > Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives > > To: "debian-user" > > Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:24 PM &

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: > su > is enough. No, it should be su - > alt-F2 > gksu gedit That's good gksu app my recommendation su -c app isn't good. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact l

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Go Linux
--- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > From: Ralf Mardorf > Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives > To: "debian-user" > Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:24 PM > > alternatively you can run one command > > su -c gedit >

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 14 October 2012 16:20:48 Wally Lepore wrote: > The link starts off by suggesting I log in as user and then enter the > following initial command. > > 1 | su root > 2 | gedit > > I went to Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal (I assume this is > how to open a terminal)  and w

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk. Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but > 1 | su root > 2 | gedit isn't ok. You can, but you don't need to add "root", but if you'll launch GUI stuff like Gedit, you often must use "su -". So correct is su - gedit usually in mai

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Wally Lepore
> Brian wrote: on Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:36 AM >> Wally wrote: on Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400 >> I can still boot either OS (win2k or Debian) simply by changing the >> boot order in BIOS. Not a big deal. Sure beats swapping drives in and >> out of the computer. :) > Login as root and run the

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb) > for partitioning, I used the 'Manual' setup and chose Logical Volume > Manager (LVM) non-encryption method. Do you really need LVM? > Is this 'Review Partition Layout' screen (displayed for review bef

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Dom
On 14/10/12 10:36, Brian wrote: On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: Debian Squeeze installed successfully ! The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian simply by changing the boot order in the BIOS (hdd-0 or hdd-1). When I set Debian (hdd-1) as

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Debian Squeeze installed successfully ! > > The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian > simply by changing the boot order in the BIOS (hdd-0 or hdd-1). When > I set Debian (hdd-1) as 1st boot device I do rec

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote: > ***SUCCESS > ***SUCCESS > Debian Squeeze installed successfully ! \0/ :-)) > The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian > simply by changin

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-14 Thread Joe
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:49:14 -0400 Wally Lepore wrote: > > I can still boot either OS (win2k or Debian) simply by changing the > boot order in BIOS. Not a big deal. Sure beats swapping drives in and > out of the computer. :) > Editing Win 2000 boot.ini: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311578

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Joe Zien
Wally Lepore wrote: Hi Debain Users, I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze' on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive (/dev/sda) and Debian will be installed on the 2nd hard drive (/dev/sdb). The installer is asking me where I want Grub i

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote: > > We await your announcement of 'success'. > > P.S. It is (hd1,1). You really do not want to do put GRUB there. It is > not the same as /dev/sdb. Honest. ***SUCCESS ***SUCCESS Debian Squeeze installed successfully ! The du

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote: > > We await your announcement of 'success'. > > P.S. It is (hd1,1). You really do not want to do put GRUB there. It is > not the same as /dev/sdb. Honest. ***SUCCESS ***SUCCESS Debian Squeeze installed successfully ! The du

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 14:28:42 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > In my case, if I tell the Debian installer to place the GRUB > boot-loader into (hdd1,1) or /dev/sdb, will it place the GRUB > boot-loader in the '/' (root partition) due to the fact that its > listed FIRST in the 'Review Partition L

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Wally Lepore
Wally wrote: (on Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM) > I only have one shot at getting this correct. My 2nd hard drive (that > contains Debian) is installed on /dev/sdb and the first partition on > that drive is /boot . I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb) for partition

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 12:15:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > I only have one shot to get this right or else I have to scrub the > install and start over. Please, no! No more installing from you. We are exhausted. :) > Here is what the new screen is asking: > > * BEGI

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Wally Lepore
Wally wrote: (On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM) > Should I simply type hd1,1 OR /dev/sdb in the above box and > that should install GRUB to the first /boot partition on the 2nd > drive? To clarify, should I include the parenthesis ( ) as in (hd1,1) and NOT hd1,1 ? Thank you -- To

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Brian wrote: > On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 00:40:40 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > >> If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the >> MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I >> don't want to answer "NO" to the question

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 00:40:40 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the > MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I > don't want to answer "NO" to the question only to advance the > installer to a dead end. I hav

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-13 Thread Joe
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:40:40 -0400 Wally Lepore wrote: > > If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the > MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I > don't want to answer "NO" to the question only to advance the > installer to a dead end. I ha

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-12 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:40:40 AM Wally Lepore wrote: > Hi Debain Users, > > I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze' > on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive > (/dev/sda) and Debian will be installed on the 2nd hard drive > (/dev/s

GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-12 Thread Wally Lepore
Hi Debain Users, I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze' on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive (/dev/sda) and Debian will be installed on the 2nd hard drive (/dev/sdb). The installer is asking me where I want Grub installed. It says: -b