Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-02-01 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:12:47 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:16:03 -0500 (EST), Klistvud wrote: > > In all honesty, is there anybody over the mental age of 9 that actually > > "enjoys" flash??? > > I hate it too. But as with most things in life, it all comes down to >

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-02-01 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:16:03 -0500 (EST), Klistvud wrote: > In all honesty, is there anybody over the mental age of 9 that actually > "enjoys" flash??? I hate it too. But as with most things in life, it all comes down to money. The bottom line is, "it sells". Or at least the Madison Avenue typ

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-02-01 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 31. 01. 2010 22:15:05 je Eduardo M KALINOWSKI napisal(a): But 99% of them are unnecessary, the same effect could be achived with plain old HTML. The end result might be more boring, but just as informational/useful. Moreover, I've seldom encountered plain old HTML that was as boring

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 21:35, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Why is the default JRE not installed in a normal install of Debian? Don't know, and you're highjacking a thread about flash. +1 on the "flash is not necessary but webdevs seem to rely on it too much" trend. Functional content (like login sc

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The answer to my last question seems to be `NO', which confirms my thoughts: at http://wiki.debian.org/Java, it is clearly said: == To install the default JRE on your system, run : apt-get install default-jre == Why is the default JRE not installed

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar writes: >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact >> that for todays browsing is a "must have". > > Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. > It's easy enough to download YouTube v

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI < edua...@kalinowski.com.br> wrote: > On 01/31/2010 07:10 PM, Camaleón wrote: > >> Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for >> validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to >> call external (x)

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 01/31/2010 07:10 PM, Camaleón wrote: Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action script) to be properly managed and displayed so you

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:10:28 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:54 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón > > wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact > >> that for todays br

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:54 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > > ... > >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact >> that for todays browsing is a "must have". > > Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW pr

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: ... > One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact > that for todays browsing is a "must have". Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. It's easy enough to download YouTube video usi

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:26:31 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/ >> shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other >> sources. > Clearly, but it does not make things clearer! There are so

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón writes: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:55:40 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> 5. Debian's politic sometimes creates problems which could be solved in >> a really more straightforward way: if it had been in the deps from the >> beginning, I would

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:05:01 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Sun January 31 2010, Camaleón wrote: >> It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/ >> shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other >> sources. > > what about flashplayer-mozilla ? Yo

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun January 31 2010, Camaleón wrote: > It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/ > shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other > sources. what about flashplayer-mozilla ? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu Us

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:55:40 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > 5. Debian's politic sometimes creates problems which could be solved in > a really more straightforward way: if it had been in the deps from the > beginning, I would not have had to do all of this. Okay, this is `too > recent' stuff, but

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Merciadri Luca writes: > "Edward J. Shornock" writes: > >> On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote: >>> Nuno Magalhães writes: >>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca wrote: > I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Play

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Merciadri Luca < luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > "Edward J. Shornock" writes: > > > On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> Nuno Magalhães writes: > >> > >>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Mer

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Edward J. Shornock" writes: > On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote: >> Nuno Magalhães writes: >> >>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca >>> wrote: I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two computers

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Edward J. Shornock
On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote: Nuno Magalhães writes: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca wrote: I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried with the up-to-date Firefox. I have thi

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-30 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nuno Magalhães writes: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca > wrote: >> I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two >> computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried >> with the up-to-date Firefox.

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-30 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca wrote: > I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two > computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried > with the up-to-date Firefox. I have this one: ii flashplugin-nonfree 1:2.8 running Sid on amd64. Try with

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-30 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nuno Magalhães writes: > Comparing which flash-related packages (and their versions) you have > on each machine? Testing other flash-encripled sites? I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two computers. They are executing Icewea

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-29 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 20:31, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Any idea for this situation? Comparing which flash-related packages (and their versions) you have on each machine? Testing other flash-encripled sites? -- () ascii-rubanda kampajno - kontraŭ html-a retpoŝto /\ ascii ribbon campaign - aga

Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-29 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello folks, On another computer of mine, with Debian Lenny, same kernel (2.6.26-2-686-bigmem), I am able to play Youtube videos and other flash stuff, correctly. If there ``too much'' Youtube tabs under FF (or Iceweasel), it becomes really slow, does