Re: anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-12 Thread hlyg
Thank Wright! debian installer is netinst 12.8 since "ran successfully" can't be found in syslog, grub installation must fail but i didn't see any error msg during installation, it's rather dishonest perhaps they hesitate whether to remove freebsd bootloader i don't have time to debug for th

Re: anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Feb 2025 at 13:59:11 (+0800), hlyg wrote: > i can't find "ran successfully" in entire syslog with editor's search > function That's because Grub wasn't installed in the MBR, hence explaining why the FreeBSD loader wasn't touched. > 2nd disk has 4 partitions, 2 for stretch and deb12, ins

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread hlyg
Thank Wright! i can't find "ran successfully" in entire syslog with editor's search function 2nd disk has 4 partitions, 2 for stretch and deb12, installer seems to parse their grub.cfg, making log very long Feb 11 08:54:28 in-target: Creating config file /etc/default/grub with new version^

Re: anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Feb 2025 at 08:33:57 (+0800), hlyg wrote: > Thank Curley again! manually editing grub.cfg is amateur as it is > auto-generated. but my stanza is simple, it's easy to add it if > removed. > > if it were Windows, it would be much easier > > i examine syslog, among many lines probing each

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread hlyg
Thank Curley again! manually editing grub.cfg is amateur as it is auto-generated. but my stanza is simple, it's easy to add it if removed. if it were Windows, it would be much easier i examine syslog, among many lines probing each partition for OS, i can't find how i specify installation targe

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread Charles Curley
you should be able to edit that. The live CDs provide a different installer; I have do idea what that does. > > old wisdom of dual boot still works Good. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

(solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-10 Thread hlyg
b installation stick) ? old wisdom of dual boot still works

Re: anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:18:45 +0800 hlyg wrote: > i follow usual wisdom, and install freebsd in 1st partition, then > install deb12  in 2nd partition, hoping grub can handle both > > but grub fails to show, freebsd's bootloader remains unchanged > > i didn't see any error or warning msg during

anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-10 Thread hlyg
i follow usual wisdom, and install freebsd in 1st partition, then install deb12  in 2nd partition, hoping grub can handle both but grub fails to show, freebsd's bootloader remains unchanged i didn't see any error or warning msg during installation i paste last part of installer syslog  below(c

Re: Dual boot - first time using UEFI

2022-05-03 Thread Felix Miata
Hans composed on 2022-05-02 12:44 (UTC+0200): ... > When I got it running, I tried to install grub again onto the MBR, which was > successfull. But now appeared a blue screen, with choices: "Wait 10 seconds - > go on - Restart - Do not ask any more" (similar, is from my remembers). ... > Can ssom

Re: Dual boot - first time using UEFI

2022-05-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
nother EFI partition, shall I use it?" (or > similar, it is from my remembers). > > Thanky for making things clear. > > Best > > Hans > Hello Hans, I think this has also been covered in another thread here. If Windows is the _only_ system on a disk, it hijacks the

Dual boot - first time using UEFI

2022-05-02 Thread Hans
Hi folks, yesterday I installed debian bullseye besides a windows system. As UEFI could not switched off, I used gparted to make the windows partition smaller. Then used an usb-stick and installed bullseye as usual. However, the installer discovered UEFI and respected this, but atthe first b

Re: Broken UEFI Dual boot : Debian 12 + encrypted Debian 11

2021-11-23 Thread David Wright
just installed Debian 12 without encryption in a small > > partition. Unfortunately, I can not boot Debian 11 anymore, > > grub-efi only shows the Debian 12 install. > > > > Any help to make both install boot would greatly appreciated. > > Being able to boot Debian 1

Re: Broken UEFI Dual boot : Debian 12 + encrypted Debian 11

2021-11-23 Thread Yvan Masson
Debian 11 anymore, grub-efi only shows the Debian 12 install. Any help to make both install boot would greatly appreciated. Being able to boot Debian 11 only would also be great if the dual boot is not possible. I found first an answer for the second question : the wiki (https://wiki.debian.org

Broken UEFI Dual boot : Debian 12 + encrypted Debian 11

2021-11-23 Thread Yvan Masson
12 install. Any help to make both install boot would greatly appreciated. Being able to boot Debian 11 only would also be great if the dual boot is not possible. Below is a reworked `lsblk` output: sda |-sda1 -> a data partition |-sda2 -> D12 / `-sda3 -> D12 swap sdb |-sdb1 -> E

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot -- SOLVED

2021-08-29 Thread Intense Red
> does it automatically boot to Debian with Windows listed in your GRUB menu? Yes, exactly. It works as it should: Upon boot the GRUB menu is presented, with Debian, its emergency option, and the option of booting into Windows. Thus, all is right in the world. :-) That was done by disa

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot -- SOLVED

2021-08-29 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 8/28/21 1:07 PM, Intense Red wrote: The problem was that Win10 would constantly overwrite the MBR and blow away GRUB which forced the computer to boot straight into Windows. The solution is to go into Windows, open a command prompt/shell as the Windows administrator and run: "bce

Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot -- SOLVED

2021-08-28 Thread Intense Red
The problem was that Win10 would constantly overwrite the MBR and blow away GRUB which forced the computer to boot straight into Windows. The solution is to go into Windows, open a command prompt/shell as the Windows administrator and run: "bcedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\debian\grubx64.

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 27 Aug 2021 at 21:35:38 (-0500), Intense Red wrote: >On a new HP Laptop pre-installed with Win10 Home edition installed on an > SSD. In the laptop's BIOS Secure Boot was turned off. > >A fresh copy of Debian 11 was installed into the machine's 1TB HD. After > reboot, GRUB comes up

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sat, Aug 28, 2021, 6:06 AM Joe wrote: > On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:14:28 +0300 > ellanios82 wrote: > > > On 28/8/21 Intense Red: > > > How can Windows be lobotomized > > > > > >- maybe Install VirtualBox, & ONLY run windows inside Linux > > > > > > The Home version won't be licensed for use i

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread ellanios82
On 28/8/21 Intense Red: How can Windows be lobotomized - List been real Quiet : No word from the Amazing Polly .  rgds .

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread ellanios82
On 28/8/21 1:06 μ.μ., Joe wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:14:28 +0300 ellanios82 wrote: On 28/8/21 Intense Red: How can Windows be lobotomized   - maybe Install VirtualBox, & ONLY run windows inside Linux The Home version won't be licensed for use in a VM, and may be engineered not to wo

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread Joe
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:14:28 +0300 ellanios82 wrote: > On 28/8/21 Intense Red: > > How can Windows be lobotomized > > >   - maybe Install VirtualBox, & ONLY run windows inside Linux > > The Home version won't be licensed for use in a VM, and may be engineered not to work at all in one. Th

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread ellanios82
On 28/8/21 Intense Red: How can Windows be lobotomized   - maybe Install VirtualBox, & ONLY run windows inside Linux .  rgds .

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread Joe
t stretch on a Win10 netbook, at some point the installer said it had found another OS, did I want dual-boot? I didn't actually need Windows, but I said 'yes' to keep the option open, and stretch just did it. No problem. The BIOS was UEFI and didn't have a secure boot disable, but

Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-27 Thread Intense Red
On a new HP Laptop pre-installed with Win10 Home edition installed on an SSD. In the laptop's BIOS Secure Boot was turned off. A fresh copy of Debian 11 was installed into the machine's 1TB HD. After reboot, GRUB comes up normally and Linux works fine. But once Windows is chosen from G

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-06 Thread Anssi Saari
"Juan R. de Silva" writes: > There is a difference in suggested by your link approach and my > requirements. I have reasons to avoid re-installation of my existing > Windows 10. The suggested procedure based on fresh install of Windows 10 > from from the media created by Microsoft Media Creati

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-06 Thread Juan R. de Silva
be a problem? I intend to do this on my > desktop system at some point. I thought I'd just get a new SSD and make > that my boot drive and clone the partitions over but after a little > googling it seems the conversion isn't that difficult. > > For example, these instructions

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-06 Thread Anssi Saari
ust get a new SSD and make that my boot drive and clone the partitions over but after a little googling it seems the conversion isn't that difficult. For example, these instructions cover the conversion of a Ubuntu + Windows 10 dual boot system: https://www.rojtberg.net/1032/converting

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-04 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 17:23:33 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 7/4/21 4:22 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I dual boot Debian 10 with Windows 10 from MBR in Legacy mode on my 6 >> years old Dell M4800 workstation. The BIOS supports both Legacy and &

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-04 Thread David Christensen
On 7/4/21 4:22 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: Hi folks, I dual boot Debian 10 with Windows 10 from MBR in Legacy mode on my 6 years old Dell M4800 workstation. The BIOS supports both Legacy and UEFI modes. With upcoming Windows 11 I am compelled to switch to UEFI mode. Dell Precision M4800

Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-04 Thread Juan R. de Silva
Hi folks, I dual boot Debian 10 with Windows 10 from MBR in Legacy mode on my 6 years old Dell M4800 workstation. The BIOS supports both Legacy and UEFI modes. With upcoming Windows 11 I am compelled to switch to UEFI mode. I know how to switch stand alone Windows 10 or stand alone Linux from

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-14 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:19 PM Charles Curley < charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:03:20 -0500 > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X > > 10.11 (El Capitan). > > How old? The current version of Mac OS is

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-14 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:35 PM Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Kenneth Parker (2020-02-13 18:03:20) > > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X > > 10.11 (El Capitan). It currently has a single 300G HFS Plus (Journaled) > > Partition, with lots of free space. >

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Felix Miata
Jonas Smedegaard composed on 2020-02-13 18:35 (UTC+0100): > Debian (and Linux in general) supports read-write access to HFS+ > partitions, but it is unreliable. I would expect it to be difficult to > setup and the result would be unreliable (either because you would end > up depending on the u

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:28:27 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > I didn't ask for my benefit, I asked for your benefit. I will guess > that you have vetted your hardware on this list. Sorry, that should be, "... I asked for the OP's benefit. I will guess that he will vet his hardware on this list." -

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 20:59:07 +0100 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running > > > OS X 10.11 (El Capitan). > > > > How old? The current version of Mac OS is Catalina, 10.15.3. This > > on a Macbook Air made in mid-2012. ( -> About this > >

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Charles Curley (2020-02-13 19:56:31) > On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:03:20 -0500 > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS > > X 10.11 (El Capitan). > > How old? The current version of Mac OS is Catalina, 10.15.3. This on a > Macbook Ai

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:03:20 -0500 Kenneth Parker wrote: > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X > 10.11 (El Capitan). How old? The current version of Mac OS is Catalina, 10.15.3. This on a Macbook Air made in mid-2012. ( -> About this Mac) -- Does anybody read

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Kenneth Parker (2020-02-13 18:03:20) > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X > 10.11 (El Capitan). It currently has a single 300G HFS Plus (Journaled) > Partition, with lots of free space. > > He wants to keep OS X, and use Buster (or Sid, leading to the n

Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Kenneth Parker
I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X 10.11 (El Capitan). It currently has a single 300G HFS Plus (Journaled) Partition, with lots of free space. He wants to keep OS X, and use Buster (or Sid, leading to the next Stable Release). He wants to shrink the Mac Partit

Re: (solved) Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-14 Thread Beco
Hello guys, As I promised, here a more detailed solution, with the steps I really used: The problem: * You have a Windows 10 UEFI and a Linux Legacy boot. They both work, but to choose what to boot you need to change the BIOS option each time. Possible solutions discussed in the thread: 1. Let

(solved) Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-10 Thread Beco
Hello all, Thank you very much for all this thread and discussion. Let me get back to you. On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 18:26, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Dear Pascal, > > If Windows boots in EFI mode : > Mount the EFI partition on /boot/efi. > Install grub-efi-amd64. > Boot some Linux media in EFI mo

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-10-08, Joe wrote: > > But I'm pretty sure that any pre-installed Windows, and very few people > now install it themselves, will be a UEFI installation, which cannot be > changed to boot in legacy mode, nor vice-versa. > >From what I'm understanding you're batting a thousand here, Joe. ht

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-08 Thread Joe
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 23:29:09 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 07/10/2019 à 09:42, Joe a écrit : > > On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:26:32 +0200 > > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > >> Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : > >>> > >>> Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one > >>>

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 07/10/2019 à 09:42, Joe a écrit : On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:26:32 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and vice-versa, then you can boot.

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread sp007
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:45:37 -0300 Beco wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have this laptop problem to solve: the original windows 10 is kept, > shrunk partition to 1TB, originally cryptographied (but now normal). > The rest was given to Linux, Debian 10: 800GB root and 8.2GB swap. > > Now the system can b

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread Joe
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:26:32 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : > > > > Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one > > you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and > > vice-versa, then you can boot. > > Would you mind

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-06 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and vice-versa, then you can boot. Would you mind telling which systems boots in EFI mode and which one boots in legacy mode ?

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-06 Thread Joe
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:45:37 -0300 Beco wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have this laptop problem to solve: the original windows 10 is kept, > shrunk partition to 1TB, originally cryptographied (but now normal). > The rest was given to Linux, Debian 10: 800GB root and 8.2GB swap. > > Now the system can b

Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-06 Thread Beco
Hi guys, I have this laptop problem to solve: the original windows 10 is kept, shrunk partition to 1TB, originally cryptographied (but now normal). The rest was given to Linux, Debian 10: 800GB root and 8.2GB swap. Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one you want, you nee

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/06/2019 à 21:45, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : On 06/11/2019 02:20 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two reasons. 1) Obviously, it allows the drive to boot by itself so that you can move it into another machine, or remove the current boot drive, or chan

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 06/11/2019 02:20 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/06/2019 ?? 13:36, songbird a ??crit : what i'm not sure of is if you need to bother with putting the grub bootloader on it so at the end where it asks you perhaps you can skip that step. IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two rea

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/06/2019 à 13:36, songbird a écrit : what i'm not sure of is if you need to bother with putting the grub bootloader on it so at the end where it asks you perhaps you can skip that step. IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two reasons. 1) Obviously, it allows the drive to boot by

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread songbird
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > My Debian platform has four drives: > > NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT > sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk > ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / > ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part > ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] > sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk > ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /sdb1 >

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread David Christensen
On 6/10/19 7:04 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: My Debian platform has four drives: NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /s

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/06/2019 à 16:04, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : sda is a 500 GB SSD, currently the boot drive, running Stretch (...) I am planning on adding a 1 TB SSD to the system to be dedicated to Buster (currently Testing). I know that if I select the new drive (for the purpose of this note, sdd) f

Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
My Debian platform has four drives: NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /sdb1 ??sdb2 8:18 0 1K 0 part ??sdb5 8:2

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-25 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 07:02 Tom Browder wrote: > > I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has > no installed OS on it. Again, thanks to all who offered help. I have my new Zareason laptop up and running! Basic specs: UltraLap 6440 i7 Processor: i7-8550U 8

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-13 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 08:18 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 12/04/2019 à 22:46, Thomas D Dial a écrit : > > In terms of management, it is a major advance over physical > > partitioning > > for the file systems and, depending on particular file system > > characteristics, allows you to get out of

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-13 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 08:26 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 12/04/2019 à 22:25, Thomas D Dial a écrit : > > I let the installer partition the USB key that was the install > > target > > and picked LVM, but specified distinct /, /usr/, /var, /home, and > > swap > > Why did you create a distinct

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/04/2019 à 22:25, Thomas D Dial a écrit : I let the installer partition the USB key that was the install target and picked LVM, but specified distinct /, /usr/, /var, /home, and swap Why did you create a distinct volume for /usr ? partitions and left some empty space within the LVM volu

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/04/2019 à 22:46, Thomas D Dial a écrit : In terms of management, it is a major advance over physical partitioning for the file systems and, depending on particular file system characteristics, allows you to get out of space problems without down time in many cases (online resizing is avail

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Christensen
On 4/11/19 5:02 AM, Tom Browder wrote: I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has no installed OS on it. It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. I would like to use a live image on

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > Your figures are virtually meaningless without any sort of breakdown > even into what's system and what's your documents. > yeah yeah ... use your imagination. Sqldeveloper, couple of virtual machines, some installation packages each of which is 1-2GB and so one Software fo

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 21:42:51 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four > > years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint, > > Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage > > is approxi

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 09:41 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but > I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions. > > Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering > ising LVM but want to get the

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
ata and mount recognizes as an iso9660 file system. Other parts of the Debian Installation Guide are likely to be useful as well. I can offer the following dual boot installation as a suggestive example. This was to a HP Pavilion laptop dating from about 2011 that has a traditional BIOS rather

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > A lot of people are still using cached knowledge from pre-jessie days. no you know at least one in the context of fdisk. I don't know why but I got the impression it does not understand GPT. Just 2 months ago I had to partition 5TB RAID5 disk and fdisk did not work. Perhap

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four > years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint, > Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage > is approximately 90GB, of which the user's own files are 45GB, > in a partitio

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-12 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 12.04.2019 19:41, Tom Browder wrote: > I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but > I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions. > > Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering > ising LVM but want to get the option of exper

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/04/2019 à 16:09, Tom Browder a écrit : M.2 SSD: 120GB M.2 SSD (included) Samsung SSD 860 EVO == V-NAND SSD SATA 6 Gb/s size: 1 Tb my plan is to use the small disk for Win 10 and the other for Debian If the small M.2 SSD has a NVMe or AHCI interface, it may be faster t

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 10:05:58 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > >> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large > >> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both > > > > I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. > >

New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions. Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering ising LVM but want to get the option of expert users: Should I go that route? Every thing I r

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Felix Miata
deloptes composed on 2019-04-12 10:05 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >>> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large >>> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both >> I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. > You always want

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:01 PM David Christensen wrote: > Which model zareason laptop? > Which make, model, form factor, and interface 120 GB SSD? > Which form factor and interface Samsung EVO 860 1 TB SSD? > How much RAM? > Make and model WiFi interface? David, here are the specs on the lapto

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:07:04AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Why not ? Current versions support GPT. > > Thank you my fault - I have missed something It changed after wheezy. Wheezy's man page says: fdisk does not understand GUID partition tables (GPTs) an

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Why not ? Current versions support GPT. Thank you my fault - I have missed something

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Felix Miata wrote: >> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large >> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both > > I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. You always want to arge - but tell me how many applications or how much

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread David Christensen
On 4/11/19 5:02 AM, Tom Browder wrote: I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has no installed OS on it. It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. Which model zareason laptop? Whic

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/04/2019 à 20:47, deloptes a écrit : fdisk is not suitable for GPT Why not ? Current versions support GPT.

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Felix Miata
deloptes composed on 2019-04-11 20:47 (UTC+0200): > Tom Browder wrote: >> Given that I'm starting with two clean drives, my plan is to use the small >> disk for Win 10 and the other for Debian and maybe have a small partition >> to experiment with a BSD OS. > No Win10 will not be happy with 120G

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread deloptes
Tom Browder wrote: > I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which > has no installed OS on it. > > It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay > where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. > > I would like to use a live image on a large

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Tom Browder wrote: > As I > understand it, I believe I can just copy the Debian CD live iso image file > onto the USB and it will be found and booted from fine. Not necessarily. The question is: found by what ? The computer's firmware (BIOS or EFI, i assume) will ignore such an ISO 9660 imag

New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Tom Browder
I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has no installed OS on it. It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. I would like to use a live image on a large USB for preparing the disks befor

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 29/12/2017 à 23:46, Dan Norton a écrit : On 12/29/2017 08:52 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: The details for other detected OSes are provided by os-prober. The entry title for the main OS is derived from the GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR variable in /etc/default/grub. You can tweak it to fit your needs. If

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-29 Thread Dan Norton
On 12/29/2017 08:52 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 21/12/2017 à 20:07, Dan Norton a écrit : Disklabel type: gpt Disk identifier: A615A904-0620-459F-BF44-5E53E54FDF24 Device Start    End    Sectors   Size Type /dev/sda1   2048 411647 409600   200M BIOS boot (...) Is the

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/12/2017 à 20:07, Dan Norton a écrit : Disklabel type: gpt Disk identifier: A615A904-0620-459F-BF44-5E53E54FDF24 Device Start    End    Sectors   Size Type /dev/sda1   2048 411647 409600   200M BIOS boot (...) Is there a problem here? Yes. /dev/sda1 has the type

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-28 Thread Dan Norton
On 12/28/2017 04:48 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 24/12/2017 à 05:36, Felix Miata a écrit : Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-23 19:15 (UTC-0500): The menu inside the box is: Debian GNU/Linux Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) (on /dev/mapper/vol1-root) Advanced opt

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-28 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 24/12/2017 à 05:36, Felix Miata a écrit : Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-23 19:15 (UTC-0500): The menu inside the box is: Debian GNU/Linux Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) (on /dev/mapper/vol1-root) Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) (on /dev/ma

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-27 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-27 18:59 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Is there more than one directory in /boot/efi/EFI/? If not, it's likely time >> for >> you to explore using /etc/default/grub's GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= option. I need to >> (only one Debian, but 3 openSUSEs installed), but hav

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-27 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-27 18:59 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Based on what I see and what you say, it seems you are modifying the timeout >> for >> Stretch (/etc/default/grub on vol2), but actually booting Stretch from >> Jessie's >> grub.cfg (/etc/default/grub on vol1), which re

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-27 Thread Dan Norton
On 12/23/2017 11:36 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-23 19:15 (UTC-0500): Felix Miata wrote: The menu inside the box is: Debian GNU/Linux Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) (on /dev/mapper/vol1-root) Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux 8 (j

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-23 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-23 19:15 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: > The menu inside the box is: > Debian GNU/Linux > Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux > Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) (on /dev/mapper/vol1-root) > Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) (on /dev/mapper/vol1-root)

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-23 Thread Dan Norton
On 12/23/2017 04:35 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-23 15:12 (UTC-0500): Felix Miata wrote: [...] It's not so easy to figure out when POST is over with UEFI. Here, it seems efibootmgr -t provides extra delay beyond what the BIOS defines for you to make a selection from i

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-23 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-23 15:12 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> [...] >> It's not so easy to figure out when POST is over with UEFI. Here, it seems >> efibootmgr -t provides extra delay beyond what the BIOS defines for you to >> make >> a selection from its own boot device selection

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-23 Thread Dan Norton
On 12/21/2017 05:13 PM, Felix Miata wrote: [...] It's not so easy to figure out when POST is over with UEFI. Here, it seems efibootmgr -t provides extra delay beyond what the BIOS defines for you to make a selection from its own boot device selection menu, which requires an F12 keystroke here to

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-21 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-21 16:53 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-21 14:07 (UTC-0500): >>> There are still mysteries I have not solved. For some reason, GRUB has >>> decided that after POST, you only need 3 seconds to choose which >>> installation to boot

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-21 Thread Joe
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:53:19 -0500 Dan Norton wrote: > [1] "Insanity is doing the same thing over & over again and expecting > a different result." - Einstein > Probably the single most stupid thing he ever said, given that he also said 'God does not play dice', showing that he knew what dice

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

2017-12-21 Thread Dan Norton
On 12/21/2017 02:54 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Dan Norton composed on 2017-12-21 14:07 (UTC-0500): 2. You will make extra work for yourself by having a common swap partition for all installations. With the common swap, each new installation gave rise to these messages:   a. "gave up waiting for s

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