Re: Dirty spam

2006-12-02 Thread Steve Lamb
David E. Fox wrote: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:40:00 +0100 > Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How many peoples have there OWN mailservers? > /me does. Actually I cheat a bit. Actually Michelle cheats a bit. How many people have their OWN mailserver? Uhhh, I was talking MTAs. O

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:09:02 +0800 Tim Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did it even make a dent? I've been thinking about trying it. Even > catching 5% is still 50k less spam e-mails delivered on a larger > network .. so I may get a little more use out of it even if its only got > a 2/10 catch re

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-23 Thread George Borisov
Tim Post wrote: > > Did it even make a dent? I've been thinking about trying it. Even > catching 5% is still 50k less spam e-mails delivered on a larger > network .. so I may get a little more use out of it even if its only got > a 2/10 catch record. I have had a chance to try this out and it doe

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-22 Thread Tim Post
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 21:17 -0800, David E. Fox wrote: > > I've also tried installing the fuzzy OCR plugin, to hopefully combat > the tide of spammers sending phony pump & dump stock spam as attached > gifs/jpgs. But that doesn't seem to work. > > Did it even make a dent? I've been thinking ab

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-22 Thread Bradley Alexander
n-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 0:17:59 AM GMT-0500 US/Eastern Subject: Re: Dirty spam On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:40:00 +0100 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many peoples have there OWN mailservers? /me does. Actually I cheat a bit. Most (99%) of mail I

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-22 Thread David E. Fox
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:40:00 +0100 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many peoples have there OWN mailservers? /me does. Actually I cheat a bit. Most (99%) of mail I just have sent to my dsl address - and that gets processed by my mail server which is slightly to the left of me on

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-10 09:45:31, schrieb Matthew Krauss: > I prefer dovecot-imapd, from (limited) personal experience, but don't > know much about the differences in theory. Any reason to prefer > courier-imap? It works from scratch if you have your mail in a ~/Maildir You need only an 'apt-get instal

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-09 10:22:38, schrieb Steve Lamb: > Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Only if you receive your mail OVER a MTA. > > Er, right, which is how most people do it. How many peoples have there OWN mailservers? > > With fetchmail you must download and filter > Uh, no. The most common fetch

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-10 Thread Matthew Krauss
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello *, Am 2006-10-20 08:28:01, schrieb Andrew Sackville-West: If you are using t-bird to get mail directly from a pop server, then I think you're stuck. But you COULD, setup fetchmail to get your mail, reconfig exim to use spamassassin and whatever else you want) an

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-09 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Only if you receive your mail OVER a MTA. Er, right, which is how most people do it. > With fetchmail you must download and filter Uh, no. The most common fetchmail method is to drop into the local MTA. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-09 08:45:37, schrieb Steve Lamb: > Michelle Konzack wrote: > > if you receive messages which have a "-request" in there E-mail > > then it is always spam (at least for Debian lists) ant it can > > be filtered out easily with procmail or mailrop. > > Er, uh, aren't those after SA in

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-09 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > if you receive messages which have a "-request" in there E-mail > then it is always spam (at least for Debian lists) ant it can > be filtered out easily with procmail or mailrop. Er, uh, aren't those after SA in the server-side chain? Sure would be here if I used eit

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *, Am 2006-10-20 08:28:01, schrieb Andrew Sackville-West: > If you are using t-bird to get mail directly from a pop server, then I > think you're stuck. But you COULD, setup fetchmail to get your mail, > reconfig exim to use spamassassin and whatever else you want) and then > deliver that ma

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Johannes, Am 2006-10-20 20:34:46, schrieb Johannes Wiedersich: > Yes, but for those on slow networks: They always have to first download > the message, before the filter will tell them it's spam. > > It would be really appreciated, if the listmasters could filter messages > with to's and cc'

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Cord, Am 2006-10-23 15:52:07, schrieb Cord Beermann: > I added a rule that drops mails that have a To/Cc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for doing this. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Lin

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-25 Thread José Alburquerque
Andrei Popescu wrote: José Alburquerque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pollywog wrote: Sorry, I did not mean to respam the spam. Now I feel as though I need to find a special chewing gum. I'm sorry to ask. Can you explain what special chewing gum means? If I'm not mis

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
José Alburquerque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pollywog wrote: > > >On Sunday 22 October 2006 15:06, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > > > > > >>Not directed solely at you, Mumia, just something that I've been > >>meaning to say for weeks now. Know what would really help? If people > >>would stop r

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-23 Thread José Alburquerque
Pollywog wrote: On Sunday 22 October 2006 15:06, Steve Lamb wrote: Not directed solely at you, Mumia, just something that I've been meaning to say for weeks now. Know what would really help? If people would stop replying to spam, quoting spam or otherwise legitimizing spam to my bayesi

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-23 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Johannes Wiedersich) hast geschrieben: > It would be really appreciated, if the listmasters could filter messages > with to's and cc's like > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: , > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > , > , > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I added a rule that drops mails that ha

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-22 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 22 October 2006 15:06, Steve Lamb wrote: > Not directed solely at you, Mumia, just something that I've been > meaning to say for weeks now. Know what would really help? If people > would stop replying to spam, quoting spam or otherwise legitimizing spam to > my bayesian filters. T

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-22 Thread José Alburquerque
Steve Lamb wrote: Mumia W.. wrote: Taking down the botnet is another way to fight the spam. It doesn't always work as planned: Not directed solely at you, Mumia, just something that I've been meaning to say for weeks now. Know what would really help? If people would stop replying

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Mumia W.. wrote: > Taking down the botnet is another way to fight the spam. It doesn't > always work as planned: Not directed solely at you, Mumia, just something that I've been meaning to say for weeks now. Know what would really help? If people would stop replying to spam, quoting spam or

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-21 Thread Mumia W..
On 10/20/2006 05:47 PM, Pollywog wrote: On Friday 20 October 2006 18:22, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Mumia W.. wrote: Taking down the botnet is another way to fight the spam. It doesn't always work as planned: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that yo

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-20 Thread Pollywog
On Friday 20 October 2006 18:22, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Mumia W.. wrote: > > Taking down the botnet is another way to fight the spam. It doesn't > > > > always work as planned: > >> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > >> > >> A message that you sent could not b

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-20 Thread Wayne Topa
Johannes Wiedersich([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > P. Johnson wrote: > >That works the same way: Thunderbird has it's own Bayesian filter. You > >should also train messages that aren't spam to avoid false-positives and > >false-negatives. > > Yes, but for those on slow networks: T

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-20 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 08:22:55PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Administrative Contact [423178]: > President President [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2170 Bromsgrove Road > Suite 46 > Mississauga > ON > L5J 4J2 > CA > Phone: +1.905823914

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-20 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Thursday 19 October 2006 20:21, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > The list admins periodically train > spamassasin on lists.d.o with those messages which are reported as spam. > Last time I heard/read, I dont think the reported spams are being used currently. They are just being collected hoping tha

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-20 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
P. Johnson wrote: That works the same way: Thunderbird has it's own Bayesian filter. You should also train messages that aren't spam to avoid false-positives and false-negatives. Yes, but for those on slow networks: They always have to first download the message, before the filter will tell t

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-20 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Mumia W.. wrote: Taking down the botnet is another way to fight the spam. It doesn't always work as planned: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The follo

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-20 Thread José Alburquerque
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: If you are using t-bird to get mail directly from a pop server, then I think you're stuck. But you COULD, setup fetchmail to get your mail, reconfig exim to use spamassassin and whatever else you want) and then deliver that mail to your mail locally for t-bird to pic

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:36:07PM -0400, José Alburquerque wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > >Install spamassasin and train it. Go to the web archives, find the > >offending message(s) and click the corresponding "Report this as Spam" > >button on the page for the message. The list admins

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread Mumia W..
On 10/19/2006 08:04 PM, José Alburquerque wrote: José Alburquerque wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Install spamassasin and train it. Go to the web archives, find the offending message(s) and click the corresponding "Report this as Spam" button on the page for the message. The list admins p

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread P. Johnson
José Alburquerque wrote: > Quick question on spamassasin: Will this work for those that do not use > fetchmail to download mail to server? I simply get my mail by using > mozilla-thunderbird. In my case, I guess I'd just click on the "Junk > Mail" button, although I'm afraid that it will begin

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread Gnu_Raiz
On Thursday 19 October 2006 20:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [ =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Alburquerque? ] Re: Dirty spam That all depends on if your getting the digest or not, I use the digest form and the spam gets on the digest, not much you can do about it, except subscr

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread dtutty
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:21:31PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:18:28PM -0400, Jos? Alburquerque wrote: > > I'm sorry to say, but the spam on the list is getting dirty. Is there > > anything we can do about this? Thanks. > > > > Install spamassasin and train it

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Jose Alburquerque writes: > I'm sorry to say, but the spam on the list is getting dirty. Is there > anything we can do about this? Filter. What you are seeing is a small fraction of what hits the servers. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread José Alburquerque
José Alburquerque wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Install spamassasin and train it. Go to the web archives, find the offending message(s) and click the corresponding "Report this as Spam" button on the page for the message. The list admins periodically train spamassasin on lists.d.o with th

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread José Alburquerque
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Install spamassasin and train it. Go to the web archives, find the offending message(s) and click the corresponding "Report this as Spam" button on the page for the message. The list admins periodically train spamassasin on lists.d.o with those messages which are repo

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread José Alburquerque
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:18:28PM -0400, José Alburquerque wrote: I'm sorry to say, but the spam on the list is getting dirty. Is there anything we can do about this? Thanks. Install spamassasin and train it. Go to the web archives, find the offending m

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:18:28PM -0400, José Alburquerque wrote: > I'm sorry to say, but the spam on the list is getting dirty. Is there > anything we can do about this? Thanks. > Install spamassasin and train it. Go to the web archives, find the offending message(s) and click the correspon

Dirty spam

2006-10-19 Thread José Alburquerque
I'm sorry to say, but the spam on the list is getting dirty. Is there anything we can do about this? Thanks. -- Sincerely Jose Alburquerque -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]