Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

s is the tutorial that I'm following : > I'm pleased for you that it now appears to be working so this comment comes after the fact. You are asking three separate questions here, in some sense: You have a Chromebook - so ChromeOS underlying everything, potentially A Xen subsystem runn

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

IP address to be seen from >> "outside" of my LAN. >> >> This is the tutorial that I'm following : >> >> >> >> https://github.com/mobile-virt/u-boot-chromebook-xe303c12/tree/chromebook/xen#starting-a-domu-guest >> >> Given these c

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

On 20/11/23 05:54, Mario Marietto wrote: root@bookworm:~# ifup enX0 root@bookworm:~# ip a 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo   valid_lft for

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

ternet and I want its IP address to be seen from > "outside" of my LAN. > > This is the tutorial that I'm following : > > > > https://github.com/mobile-virt/u-boot-chromebook-xe303c12/tree/chromebook/xen#starting-a-domu-guest > > Given these config files : &g

Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

/tree/chromebook/xen#starting-a-domu-guest Given these config files : A) on the host os (Devuan 5) Linux devuan-bunsen 6.1.61-stb-xen-cbe+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Nov 4 13:46:17 EDT 2023 armv7l root@devuan-bunsen:~# ifconfig lo: flags=73 mtu 65536 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 inet

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 07:11:36PM -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Today for the first times since I upgraded my Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie, I tried to use crontab; Devuan support is off-topic on this mailing list, please use one of the Devuan support channels: https://devuan.org/os

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

On 1-11-2017, at 12h 52'17", to...@tuxteam.de wrote about "Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps" > On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 12:28:51PM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > [...] > > > What is a "Devuan"? > > Devuan is a for

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

On 01-11-17, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 10:00:27AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > deloptes: > > > > > > Indeed, thanks for the hint, however OP wanted to edit crontab, which > > > needs > > > root access. > > > > 'crontab -e' works for all users. > > A more correct w

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 12:28:51PM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: [...] > What is a "Devuan"? Devuan [1], [2] is a fork of Debian, which was made because some people were unhappy about how Debian handled the transition to s

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

On 1-11-2017, at 02h 01'08", Will Mengarini wrote about "Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps" > * Ron OLGIATI [17-10/31=Tu 19:11 -0300]: > >> [...] Devuan Jessie, I tried to use crontab [...] > >> under Devuan, crontab opens the file with na

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

Hi. On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 10:00:27AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: > deloptes: > > > > Indeed, thanks for the hint, however OP wanted to edit crontab, which needs > > root access. > > 'crontab -e' works for all users. A more correct way to put it is 'crontab utilizes root access'. $ l

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

* Ron OLGIATI [17-10/31=Tu 19:11 -0300]: >> [...] Devuan Jessie, I tried to use crontab [...] >> under Devuan, crontab opens the file with nano [...] * deloptes [17-11/01=We 09:23 +0100]: > [...] OP wanted to edit crontab, which needs root access. It seems more likely that he wa

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

deloptes: > > Indeed, thanks for the hint, however OP wanted to edit crontab, which needs > root access. 'crontab -e' works for all users. J. -- I am getting worse rather than better. [Agree] [Disagree] signature.a

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

Ulf Volmer wrote: > On 01.11.2017 00:00, deloptes wrote: >> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > >>> Now under Devuan, crontab opens the file with nano, which I hate, >>> abominate, pursue with intense loathing... > >> sudo update-alternatives --config editor

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

On 01.11.2017 00:00, deloptes wrote: > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >> Now under Devuan, crontab opens the file with nano, which I hate, >> abominate, pursue with intense loathing... > sudo update-alternatives --config editor select-editor(1) is also an option (configurable pe

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > Today for the first times since I upgraded my Debian Wheezy to Devuan > Jessie, I tried to use crontab; > > in Debian, it opened the file with vi, just as $DEITY had ordered it since > the beginning of the world. > > Now under Devuan, cronta

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

* Ron OLGIATI [17-10/31=Tu 19:11 -0300]: > [...] in Debian, [crontab -e] opened the file with vi [...]. > Now under Devuan, crontab opens the file with nano [...]. > How do I get crontab back to using vi ? In your <~/.bashrc>: export EDITOR=vim export VISUAL=vim Or modi

Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

Today for the first times since I upgraded my Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie, I tried to use crontab; in Debian, it opened the file with vi, just as $DEITY had ordered it since the beginning of the world. Now under Devuan, crontab opens the file with nano, which I hate, abominate, pursue

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, at 03:25 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > > > LMDE 2 is Jessie-based while retaining sysvinit. > > I get the impression that Linux Mint is only holding off on systemd > because it is shaky. When it settles down, it will head in that > direction. Does this mean abandoning upstart? >

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

On Wednesday 10 June 2015 22:25:48 Haines Brown wrote: > On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 05:07:18PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 08 June 2015 17:00:31 pjw wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 08:41 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > > > > > LMDE 2 is Jessie-based while retaining sysvinit. > > I get

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 05:07:18PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 08 June 2015 17:00:31 pjw wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 08:41 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > LMDE 2 is Jessie-based while retaining sysvinit. I get the impression that Linux Mint is only holding off on systemd because i

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

On Monday 08 June 2015 17:00:31 pjw wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 08:41 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > On 8/06/2015 4:55 AM, Francis Gerund wrote: > > > It seems to be dead, or at least dying. > > > > systemd is a huge mistake for Debian and other distros, a very

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 08:41 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 8/06/2015 4:55 AM, Francis Gerund wrote: > > It seems to be dead, or at least dying. > systemd is a huge mistake for Debian and other distros, a very sad > mistake, Devuan or BSD will be a far better option for servers

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 8/06/2015 4:55 AM, Francis Gerund wrote: > Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening (or > not happening) with the Devuan project? > > It seems to be dead, or at least dying. Not so quick. systemd is a

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 07:17:24AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Not my impression at all. The Alpha 2 installer just came out. I was > able to install devuan in a virtual box without a problem, and so now > one of my virtual desktops is now a Devuan version of Jessie. Systemd is > n

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 07:17:24AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Not my impression at all. The Alpha 2 installer just came out. I was > able to install devuan in a virtual box without a problem, and so now > one of my virtual desktops is now a Devuan version of Jessie. Systemd is > n

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 08:20:41AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Francis Gerund writes: > > > Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening > > (or not happening) with the Devuan project? > > > > It seems to be dead, or at least dying. >

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

Francis Gerund writes: > Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening (or > not happening) with the Devuan project? > > It seems to be dead, or at least dying. > > I am (more than) starting to think the whole thing was just a sick, > sleazy hoax/disin

[OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening (or not happening) with the Devuan project? It seems to be dead, or at least dying. I am (more than) starting to think the whole thing was just a sick, sleazy hoax/disinformation campaign by you-know-who to confuse and disillusion

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

Hallo, * Erwan David [Wed, Dec 03 2014, 04:13:14PM]: > > As explained several times on this ML, depending against libsystemd0 > > package doesn't mean anything about requiring systemd to be used as > > PID1 or not. Even Ian's GR was not taking the "I don't want any systemd > > package on my machine

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 05/12/14 18:19, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 05 December 2014 16:19:08 Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: >> On 5 December 2014 at 11:45, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> [ Apologies to others for maybe prolonging this, but I can't let this >>> go uncorrected... ] >> >> Me too... >> >>> Spout crap if you like

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On Friday 05 December 2014 16:19:08 Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > On 5 December 2014 at 11:45, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > [ Apologies to others for maybe prolonging this, but I can't let this > > go uncorrected... ] > > Me too... > > > Spout crap if you like (but please do it elsewhere), but don't put

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 5 December 2014 at 11:45, Steve McIntyre wrote: > [ Apologies to others for maybe prolonging this, but I can't let this > go uncorrected... ] Me too... > Spout crap if you like (but please do it elsewhere), but don't put > words into Joey's mouth. As he later clarified in > http://joeyh.nam

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

[ Apologies to others for maybe prolonging this, but I can't let this go uncorrected... ] Thiago wrote: >>> Jessie isn't Debian. >> >> So you say. Others have a different opinion. > >Absolutely, it is just an opinion, I know. > >Also, it seems to be Joey's opinion too: "It's become abundantly cl

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 12/05/2014 04:44 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-05, Buntunub wrote: And so it comes full circle. This is why there is a need for a Debian fork. /I/ don't have to do any of those things. You don't either. The good folks at Devuan will take care of all that for you. Fine th

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 2014-12-05, Buntunub wrote: > > And so it comes full circle. This is why there is a need for a Debian fork. > /I/ don't have to do any of those things. You don't either. The good folks > at Devuan will take care of all that for you. > Fine then go fork yourselve

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

ippled system. > > As explained several times on this ML, depending against libsystemd0 > package doesn't mean anything about requiring systemd to be used as > PID1 or not. Even Ian's GR was not taking the "I don't want any systemd > package on my machine" use

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

>> Jessie isn't Debian. > > So you say. Others have a different opinion. Absolutely, it is just an opinion, I know. Also, it seems to be Joey's opinion too: "It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I originally joined in 1996." https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/1

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 12/03/2014 07:13 AM, Erwan David wrote: As explained several times on this ML, depending against libsystemd0 package doesn't mean anything about requiring systemd to be used as PID1 or not. Even Ian's GR was not taking the "I don't want any systemd package on my machine" use case into account

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 12/03/2014 04:18 PM, Märk Owen wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:50:05 +0100 maderios wrote: On 12/03/2014 08:37 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Jessie isn't Debian. Devuan IS (will be) what we know about Debian! Waiting to see Joel joining Devuan... lol I've no problem with systemd

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

oy >> `systemd` at my company's public data center. Since it [systemd] >> doesn't work here. >> >> If `systemd` gets fixed (to work with `GRSecurity`), then, I'll give >> it a second try. Otherwise, I'll need to move to Devuan... >> >>

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

. If `systemd` gets fixed (to work with `GRSecurity`), then, I'll give it a second try. Otherwise, I'll need to move to Devuan... Lennart do not care about that: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65575 - How bad is that? A cursory search using duckduckgo with the search terms:

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 3 December 2014 at 19:18, Märk Owen wrote: > On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:50:05 +0100 > maderios wrote: > >> On 12/03/2014 08:37 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: >> >> > Jessie isn't Debian. >> > >> > Devuan IS (will be) what we know about D

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

pstart` and there is no plans to use `systemd` at our servers (and I'm talking about hundreds of Linux instances, physical servers and virtual machines). Cheers! On 3 December 2014 at 18:50, maderios wrote: > On 12/03/2014 08:37 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > >> Jessie isn't

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:50:05 +0100 maderios wrote: > On 12/03/2014 08:37 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > > > Jessie isn't Debian. > > > > Devuan IS (will be) what we know about Debian! Waiting to see Joel > > joining Devuan... lol > > > I've no p

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 03/12/14 19:37, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Debian/Devuan WILL NEED an `udev` alternative to keep `sysinit-core` working. Perhaps. On the other hand, they might only need an alternative implementation of the user-space glue that makes kdbus work. Devuan will need something like `eudev` to

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 12/03/2014 08:37 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Jessie isn't Debian. Devuan IS (will be) what we know about Debian! Waiting to see Joel joining Devuan... lol I've no problem with systemd (Sid), it works fine). I dont understand why some people complain about systemd. Devuan is n

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 17:37:02 -0200 Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > Sooner or later, there will be no more `sysvinit-core`, `upstart` or > whatever, because `systemd` guys engulfed `udev` and they are change > it to make sure it will only work with systemd = PID1, this sucks, Very likely, Jēmuzu, and the

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

; this way. > > # apt-get install upstart > # apt-get install sysvinit-core > # apt-get install openrc I doubt that this will work in the near future (jessie +1). Debian/Devuan WILL NEED an `udev` alternative to keep `sysinit-core` working. Sooner or later, there will be no more `sy

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

> > As explained several times on this ML, depending against libsystemd0 > package doesn't mean anything about requiring systemd to be used as > PID1 or not. Even Ian's GR was not taking the "I don't want any systemd > package on my machine" use case into account you know. Why focus on PID1 ? As

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

o I do not get why you repeat it and even complain that its already explained several times on this ML as actually I think I did not leave a trace of doubt of my awareness of that in the way I have written this. > But if you have that special concern, you'll have to start recompiling &g

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

Le Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:18:36 +0100, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 08:35:00 schrieb Erwan David: > > Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > > Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: > > >> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 > >

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 08:35:00 schrieb Erwan David: > Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: > >> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 > >> > >> Aaron Toponce wrote: > It's a waste. They shouldn't have left.

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: >> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 >> >> Aaron Toponce wrote: It's a waste. They shouldn't have left. I'm pretty neutral about systemd as I'm only an end user but I diskl

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 06:47:38PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > Another way to look at it is "forward planning for the release after Jessie, > when systemd may well become compulsory..." Most would call that FUD. -- . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . . . o . o o o . o . o o . . o o

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 > > Aaron Toponce wrote: > > > It's a waste. They shouldn't have left. I'm pretty neutral about > > > systemd as I'm only an end user but I disklike having it forced upon me > > > this way. > > >

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 Aaron Toponce wrote: > > It's a waste. They shouldn't have left. I'm pretty neutral about > > systemd as I'm only an end user but I disklike having it forced upon me > > this way. > # apt-get install upstart > # apt-get install sysvinit-core > # apt-get insta

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 09:40:20PM +0100, Märk Owen wrote: > It's a waste. They shouldn't have left. I'm pretty neutral about > systemd as I'm only an end user but I disklike having it forced upon me > this way. # apt-get install upstart # apt-get install sysvinit-core # apt-get install openrc No

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

temd as I'm only an end user but I disklike having it forced upon me this way. These guys should have kept working on Debian and made sure every package is compatible with whichever init system we choose. Too bad, it won't happen. DI doubt very much that Devuan will last. -BEGIN PGP

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 12/02/2014 04:47 AM, maderios wrote: Hi guys Not for me but interesting. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1MDQ "# More about the vision This is just a start, as bold as it sounds to call it fork, at a process that will unfold in time and involve more people, first to im

Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

Hi guys Not for me but interesting. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1MDQ -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/547d8aa7.

Devuan

Hello, No moves planned myself, but as I have seen any number of posts regarding systemd and associated contention, I thought I'd draw attention to this: https://devuan.org/ Perhaps it might answer to the requirements of some? Cheers! Weaver -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his