On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 6:26 AM Curt wrote:
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> On 2024-04-22, Reid wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry I irked you so much Curt, but you don't have to be rude.
>
> I'm Curt.
Let's be serious. You be Frank and I'll be Earnest.
On 2024-04-22, Reid wrote:
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> I'm sorry I irked you so much Curt, but you don't have to be rude.
I'm Curt.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 05:02:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact?
> >> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html
> >> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`?
> > but perhaps without all the decepti
>> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact?
>> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html
>> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`?
> but perhaps without all the deception crap, unless you really mean
> to impugn the developers' motives.
Yu
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> That's probably a bug in Calamares. I checked with one of the live cd
> maintainers on this. As has been pointed out, the live cd is really
> intended more for checking than for major use but it does need some work.
> If you found the non-free components - where were th
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From: Curt
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote:
>
>> How can you be taken seriously when you can't even wrap your lines
>> according to our venerable guidelines?
>> Get a popular setting going, buddy.
>>
>> And, though it's true I extolled Proust recently, being succinct
On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 11:31:03AM -0700, Reid wrote:
> Debian's policy change on non-free-firmware has made much of the Debian.org
> website very misleading, and some Debian OS installers have become very
> Free Software UNfriendly and deceptive. The following is my experience,
> and the reasons w
On 2024-04-22, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> I endure this on many other mailing lists unrelated to Debian,
> particularly from groups.io that have a Web interface.
It's a violation of Debian mailing list posting rules, guidelines, and
tips.
It irks me that in certain cases these guidelines are evoke
* On 2024 22 Apr 09:39 -0500, Curt wrote:
> On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote:
> > You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of
> > release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is
> > not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy",
On 2024-04-22, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote:
>>> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of
>>> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is
>>> not what the Debian.or
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote:
> On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote:
>> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of
>> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is
>> not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We
On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote:
> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of
> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is
> not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We
> Are / What We Do" pages are current
On Sun Apr 21, 2024 at 9:58 PM BST, Reid wrote:
> If the Installers are not ALL going to give users the choice to opt-in
> or opt-out of non-free components, then those above-mentioned
> promotional pages really need to be updated so as to not be misleading
> users.
I'm sure the Debian WWW team wo
On 21 Apr 2024 13:58 -0700, from reid...@proinbox.com (Reid):
> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX
> pages of release notes and guides in order to learn that what
> they're installing is not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian",
> "Our Philosophy", and "Who We Are
On Sun 21 Apr 2024 at 21:59:21 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact?
> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html
>
> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`?
but perhaps without all the deception crap, un
> Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact?
> Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html
Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`?
Stefan
Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact?
Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html
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From: fxkl4...@protonmail.com
Date: Sunday, April 21, 2024 3:52 PM
do you think the debian gods are listening
On Sun, 21 Ap
On Sun, 21 Apr 2024, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> If Debian is going to continue promoting itself with those "Our Philosophy"
>> and "Why Debian" pages, there should at least be opt-ins during the
>> installation process of every Debian download, as well as prominent warnings
>> of the new policy on t
> If Debian is going to continue promoting itself with those "Our Philosophy"
> and "Why Debian" pages, there should at least be opt-ins during the
> installation process of every Debian download, as well as prominent warnings
> of the new policy on the download pages.
Agreed. It should be easy t
You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of
release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is not
what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We Are /
What We Do" pages are currently promoting Debian as.
That's not
On 21 Apr 2024 11:31 -0700, from reid...@proinbox.com (Reid):
> I'm a 10+ year Debian user, and a longtime Free Software supporter.
> Two weeks ago I was shocked to discover 29 non-free components in
> the Debian desktop I'd been using for the last couple months. There
> hadn't been any opt-in or e
Debian's policy change on non-free-firmware has made much of the Debian.org
website very misleading, and some Debian OS installers have become very Free
Software UNfriendly and deceptive. The following is my experience, and the
reasons why I believe Debian must re-word their promotional web page
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