On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 04.10.2014 12:51, Joel Rees a écrit:
2014/10/04 17:30 "Curt" :
>
> On 2014-10-03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [2] wrote:
> >
> >
> > I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of
softwares
> > with "play on words
Le 04.10.2014 12:51, Joel Rees a écrit :
2014/10/04 17:30 "Curt" :
>
> On 2014-10-03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [2] wrote:
> >
> >
> > I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of
softwares
> > with "play on words" (this translation sounds strange... is it
the
> > co
2014/10/04 17:30 "Curt" :
>
> On 2014-10-03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org <
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of softwares
> > with "play on words" (this translation sounds strange... is it the
> > correct one?)
>
> It's the
On 2014-10-03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
>
>
> I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of softwares
> with "play on words" (this translation sounds strange... is it the
> correct one?)
It's the correct one (jeu de mots).
> Oh, and apart from that, for people (if t
Le 02.10.2014 14:11, Marty a écrit :
d-mobilize (inspiring)
[...]
Let me know which name you prefer. We have until the Jessie freeze to
decide. Welcome to your compatible, interoperable systemd future.
I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of softwares
with "play on words
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 08:11:56AM -0400, Marty wrote:
> d-nukem (bold)
Could be confused with Duke Nukem! A better name would be
system-downgrade
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On 09/28/2014 08:20 PM, Marty wrote:
On 09/28/2014 09:25 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
As a disclaimer, the easy path to
continued across board interoperability may have been successfully
addressed in a Debian-User email that is simply waiting its turn to be
read..
I'm saving it for my next m
On 09/28/2014 09:25 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
How'd you ever find that in among every single other thing else that's
out there to study regarding anything Debian...?
Lucky google search I guess.
S Genuine question, not trying to make any point in case it
comes across that way. I tr
On 9/27/14, Marty wrote:
> The Debian Policy Manual currently supports alternate init systems, and
> mentions upstart as an example. sysvinit scripts will continue to be
> required per policy. I got the opposite impression from the TC debate,
> where part of the justification (IIRC)
The Debian Policy Manual currently supports alternate init systems, and
mentions upstart as an example. sysvinit scripts will continue to be
required per policy. I got the opposite impression from the TC debate,
where part of the justification (IIRC) for systemd was avoiding sysvinit
On Vi, 16 sep 11, 00:48:25, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
>
> I wonder if there should be a separate mailing list to Cc: such
> bug reports. (debian-dependency-inquisitors@, perhaps?)
I don't think dependencies need any special handling compared to other
bug reports. In cases where you don't
> Andrei Popescu writes:
> On Lu, 11 iul 11, 14:51:48, William Hopkins wrote:
> Old thread, but still...
>> Absolutely! Easy to find examples with apt-cache rdepends dbus. I
>> would posit that nearly all packages that depend on DBUS should
>> actually depend on libdbus{,-c++,-java,-
Old thread, but still...
On Lu, 11 iul 11, 14:51:48, William Hopkins wrote:
>
> Absolutely! Easy to find examples with apt-cache rdepends dbus. I would posit
> that nearly all packages that depend on DBUS should actually depend on
> libdbus{,-c++,-java,-ruby}. Do these packages (such as rhythmbox
On Ma, 12 iul 11, 00:33:18, shawn wilson wrote:
> i'm not the op (obviously) however, would it be possible to override a
> package's dependancies using apt-file with specific prerequisites? ie,
> if i wanted to tell every package that required libc6 to go ahead and
> install ignoring libc6 (knowing
i'm not the op (obviously) however, would it be possible to override a
package's dependancies using apt-file with specific prerequisites? ie,
if i wanted to tell every package that required libc6 to go ahead and
install ignoring libc6 (knowing that i'd eventually break every new
package) could i?
On 12/07/11 04:57, William Hopkins wrote:
> On 07/11/11 at 11:52am, Camale�n wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:43:45 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
>>
>>> Listers, looking for a little community input:
>>>
>>> What is the best way to get answers on Debian po
On 07/11/11 at 11:52am, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:43:45 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
>
> > Listers, looking for a little community input:
> >
> > What is the best way to get answers on Debian policy questions? I have
> > had some issues I'
On 07/11/11 at 07:19am, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2011-07-11 04:43 +0200, William Hopkins wrote:
>
> > If you're curious, the issue I've been having is regarding package
> > dependencies. Some packages seem to have extraneous dependencies outside of
> > what is strictly required (package build tool
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:43:45 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
> Listers, looking for a little community input:
>
> What is the best way to get answers on Debian policy questions? I have
> had some issues I'd like to get a policy answer on or possibly provide
> input (aka, my
On 2011-07-11 04:43 +0200, William Hopkins wrote:
> If you're curious, the issue I've been having is regarding package
> dependencies. Some packages seem to have extraneous dependencies outside of
> what is strictly required (package build tools will tell you what is strictly
> required). Packages
On 07/10/11 at 10:53pm, shawn wilson wrote:
> how about 'apt-cache policy '
Er, I think this shows your current settings for version preference/pinning. I
was referring to policy in terms of the debian maintainer policy, uploader
policy, etc.
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un, Jul 10, 2011 at 22:43, William Hopkins wrote:
>> Listers, looking for a little community input:
>>
>> What is the best way to get answers on Debian policy questions? I have had
>> some
>> issues I'd like to get a policy answer on or possibly provide input (aka
how about 'apt-cache policy '
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 22:43, William Hopkins wrote:
> Listers, looking for a little community input:
>
> What is the best way to get answers on Debian policy questions? I have had
> some
> issues I'd like to get a policy answer on
Listers, looking for a little community input:
What is the best way to get answers on Debian policy questions? I have had some
issues I'd like to get a policy answer on or possibly provide input (aka, my
$0.02) for.
If you're curious, the issue I've been having is regarding packa
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 12:40:58 Joey Hess wrote:
> Another way to look at this problem is the question of whether this
> program violates copyright:
>
> for int x in 0 .. inf; do print x; done
>
> I claim that it does not, even though it will eventually output the
> HD-DVD key, and much later, th
Marty writes:
> IANAL
This is clear.
> If it applies, then strict scrutiny requires the government to prove that
> the law meets stringent tests that don't apply to other laws.
Copyright infringement suits are not brought by the government.
> Secondly, while their are clear definitions of murde
Joey Hess wrote:
Marty wrote:
I have long questioned whether copyright can be clearly enough defined to
be generally enforceable.
The same can be said about anything from murder to jaywalking.
This is why we have judges who generate case law.
IANAL but I see two qualitative differences: f
Jochen Schulz wrote:
> If the number was copyrighted, converting to a different format would
> yield another, uncopyrighted number -- even when done losslessly. The
> other way round, if you could copyright a number with a
> song/movie/whatever, you could even go as far as to say that with just
> o
Marty wrote:
> Any piece of digital "content" is a single number
Which does not imply that any number can be a copyrightable work. At
least I don't recall sending royalty checks to the inventors of the zero.
In this specific case, IMHO the key in question is not copyrightable
because no “original
Marty writes:
> Losslessly transcoded copies, as reversible mathematical transforms,
> would probably be covered by the same copyright. Some lossy transforms
> may also covered, but an interesting exception is the HDTV broadcast
> flag, which applies a lossy non-reversible tranform, presumably res
Marty:
>
> The recent media debate over a released HD-DVD key, and resulting DMCA
> take-down notices, got me thinking about a broad range of questions
> regarding Debian policy about "IP rights" in general, and specifically
> about numbers as copyrighted "intell
On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 07:41 -0400, Marty wrote:
> The recent media debate over a released HD-DVD key, and resulting DMCA
> take-down
> notices, got me thinking about a broad range of questions regarding Debian
> policy about "IP rights" in general, and specifi
The recent media debate over a released HD-DVD key, and resulting DMCA take-down
notices, got me thinking about a broad range of questions regarding Debian
policy about "IP rights" in general, and specifically about numbers as
copyrighted "intellectual propery." Any piece
. E.g. in the "about" part of any help system: "This
> > > program modifies the foo files found in bar directory..."
> >
> > Maybe this should become official Debian policy.
> >
> I don't think it should. That is why every single Debian packag
found in bar directory..."
>
> Maybe this should become official Debian policy.
>
I don't think it should. That is why every single Debian package
includes a README.Debian file in /usr/share/doc/. This
should document any deviations between the Debian version and the
upstream
w
> trail back to the root of many black box items could be put into the
> box itself. E.g. in the "about" part of any help system: "This
> program modifies the foo files found in bar directory..."
Maybe this should become official Debian policy.
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1.7.1:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=256072
Why it can't be re-enabled in 1.7, I don't know. Has anyone worked
out why the maintainer was so stubborn about this issue?
Along those lines, isn't there some Debian-policy concerning stuff like
this? I saw
enabled in 1.7.1:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=256072
>
> Why it can't be re-enabled in 1.7, I don't know. Has anyone worked
> out why the maintainer was so stubborn about this issue?
Along those lines, isn't there some Debian-policy concern
, I lied about this, I think it does create a set of empty
> directories.
Specifically, check Debian Policy.
9.1.2 Site-specific programs
Directories may be created in /usr/local, via postinst prerem scripts,
as /usr/local may be remotely mounted and not locally modifiable. No
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:37:09PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> Just a thought, but are you using the latest VMWare? I'm pretty sure
> you need VMWare 4, which was just released in April, to use newer Linux
> kernels: 2.4.18 etc. won't work with VMWare
%% "Smith, Paul [BL60:SB10:EXCH]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
%% Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
pj> Either way, it hangs in boot.
sp> Just a thought, but are you using the latest VMWare? I'm pretty sure
sp> you need VMWare 4, which was just released in April, to use newer Linux
%% Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
pj> Either way, it hangs in boot.
Just a thought, but are you using the latest VMWare? I'm pretty sure
you need VMWare 4, which was just released in April, to use newer Linux
kernels: 2.4.18 etc. won't work with VMWare 3 IIRC.
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 10:37:02AM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> Is there a howto or other step-by-step instructions on testing the
> installer using VMWare? Can you get VMWare to boot from an ISO image on
> the disk ("virtual CD") or do you need to actu
%% Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
pj> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
>> Can't you file a bug report about where you got stuck?
pj> The thing is, I'm not entirely sure what's going on to be able to
pj> properly describe it.
Is there a howto or othe
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Can't you file a bug report about where you got stuck?
The thing is, I'm not entirely sure what's going on to be able to
properly describe it.
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:49:02PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:00:37PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > They do (IRC, anyway), but it's just not as effective. Face-to-face
> > communication and the ability to look over at somebody's screen in real
> > time and say "oh, *th
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:00:37PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> They do (IRC, anyway), but it's just not as effective. Face-to-face
> communication and the ability to look over at somebody's screen in real
> time and say "oh, *that's* what's wrong" are
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:56:15PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:09:01PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:51:42PM +0200, Stephane wrote:
> > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html
>
> If the q
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 03:45:49AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:41:48AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > If the results of September's hackathon are anything like those of
> > the d-i sessions at debcamp, that should clear up most of the
> > remaining issues.
>
> Well, peo
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:09:01PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:51:42PM +0200, Stephane wrote:
> > Next debian stable to be released on 1st december:
> >
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html
> >
> > I would lo
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:41:48AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> If the results of September's hackathon are anything like those of
> the d-i sessions at debcamp, that should clear up most of the
> remaining issues.
Well, people could coordinate via IR
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:09:01PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:51:42PM +0200, Stephane wrote:
> > Next debian stable to be released on 1st december:
> >
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html
> >
> > I would lo
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On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:51:42PM +0200, Stephane wrote:
> Next debian stable to be released on 1st december:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html
>
> I would love to hear some comments :)
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:51:42PM +0200, Stephane wrote:
> Next debian stable to be released on 1st december:
> I would love to hear some comments :)
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On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:51:42PM +0200, Stephane wrote:
| Next debian stable to be released on 1st december:
|
|
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html
|
| I would love to hear some comments :)
Here's the comments:
It's about time. (rat
Next debian stable to be released on 1st december:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html
I would love to hear some comments :)
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On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 08:38:03PM -0500, Abdul Latip wrote:
> May I know where to get more detailed information about
> globally allocated UID and GID numbers ($10.2.2 of Debian
> Policy)? Should I send it to the "debian-policy" list?
Globally allocated ids (0-99 and 6-6
Hi:
May I know where to get more detailed information about
globally allocated UID and GID numbers ($10.2.2 of Debian
Policy)? Should I send it to the "debian-policy" list?
I am wondering if "rsync" should be run as user "backup"
or just create a new local UID (>
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:57:39PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > If rpm doesn't preserve ownerships at all, then I think that is a
> > design flaw (principle of least astonishment).
>
> When did anyone say that rpm did not preserve ownership data?
I'm trying to find out what
> It may work, that's true. But I think it's completely bizarre for a
> package to contain ownership information that isn't intended to be
> preserved.
Agreed. But rpm is not designed to operate in conjunction with dpkg.
The two programs are written in isolation. There is no interaction
between
On Saturday 25 May 2002 05:52 am, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 04:46:37PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
[snip]
> >
> > You are probably not seeing it before because many rpms are build as
> > root and so the rpm2cpio shows the file as root. But since many build
> > rpms as a non-root u
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 09:46:07AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > That sounds mostly like a bug in the .rpm packages to me. Avoiding this
> > is exactly why all Debian packages are built with either real root or
> > fakeroot; in fact, I think it's why fakeroot was written in the
> > > > alien does not respect rpm owner, group, mode on [rpm] files.
> > > > So you might alien an rpm and find the files are all owned by
> > > > 'bob' instead of 'root' because 'bob' created the rpm.
> > > > Whereas if you had installed the file as an rpm the files
> > > > would all be correctly
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 04:46:37PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Joey Hess wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > One thing that my limited experience with alien has shown me, and perhaps
> > > someone can correct me, is that alien does not respect rpm owner, group,
> > > mode on files. So you might alie
> > One thing that my limited experience with alien has shown me, and perhaps
> > someone can correct me, is that alien does not respect rpm owner, group,
> > mode on files. So you might alien an rpm and find the files are all
> > owned by 'bob' instead of 'root' because 'bob' created the rpm. Wh
Bob Proulx wrote:
> One thing that my limited experience with alien has shown me, and perhaps
> someone can correct me, is that alien does not respect rpm owner, group,
> mode on files. So you might alien an rpm and find the files are all
> owned by 'bob' instead of 'root' because 'bob' created th
> Well, there are many custom packages which are developed with rpm.
> Suppose all files will go into /usr/local -- most of them will be
> shell or perl scripts: what would be the possibility of an rpm
> package (using alien) will screw a debian system?
One thing that my limited experience with al
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 07:19:10PM +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
> Well, there are many custom packages which are developed with rpm.
> Suppose all files will go into /usr/local -- most of them will be
> shell or perl scripts: what would be the possibility of an rpm
> package (using alien)
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 07:25:41AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
> > Suppose all files will go into /usr/local -- most of them will be shell
> > or perl scripts: what would be the possibility of an rpm package (using
> > alien) will screw a debian system?
>
> As long a
> Suppose all files will go into /usr/local -- most of them will be shell
> or perl scripts: what would be the possibility of an rpm package (using
> alien) will screw a debian system?
As long as all the files go into /usr/local the Debian system will not be
damaged.
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Paul Johnson wrote:
>> I would like to know if it is possible at all to create an rpm
>> package that complies the debian policy.
> Why would you want to do this?
Not me, and that's why the question is about the possibility of
creating an rpm package that complies the
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:41:33AM +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
> I would like to know if it is possible at all to create an rpm
> package that complies the debian policy.
Why would you want to do this? It would piss off RPM users (who have
problems using RPMs from different d
Hello:
I would like to know if it is possible at all to create an rpm
package that complies the debian policy.
CMIWW: After reading these following URLS, I guess that RPM
does not have the virtual package equivalence.
http://www.kitenet.net/~joey/pkg-comp/
http://www.debianplanet.org
on Tue, May 08, 2001 at 07:48:14PM -0400, Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > I'm trying to work out a dpkg nightmare. So, man page says "See Debian
> > packaging manual".
> >
> > I install same.
> >
> > The deb
Karsten M. Self wrote:
> I'm trying to work out a dpkg nightmare. So, man page says "See Debian
> packaging manual".
>
> I install same.
>
> The debian-policy package is removed.
>
> This under Sid.
>
> What gives?
(Most of) the packaging manual i
On 08-May-2001 Karsten M. Self wrote:
> I'm trying to work out a dpkg nightmare. So, man page says "See Debian
> packaging manual".
>
> I install same.
>
> The debian-policy package is removed.
>
> This under Sid.
>
> What gives?
>
policy
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 04:10:58PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> I'm trying to work out a dpkg nightmare. So, man page says "See Debian
> packaging manual".
>
> I install same.
>
> The debian-policy package is removed.
>
> This under Sid.
>
>
I'm trying to work out a dpkg nightmare. So, man page says "See Debian
packaging manual".
I install same.
The debian-policy package is removed.
This under Sid.
What gives?
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What part of "Gestalt" don't you
Admiral Thrawn writes:
> As Far as i can tell a normal user must be part of both DIP and Dialout
> groups to dial out and use PPP ? Is there any Funny Reason this is so ?
It isn't. A user need only be a member of the dip group in order to bring
up a ppp connection with pon or gpppon. A user need
The Philadelphia Area Debian Society (PADS)
(http://www.CJFearnley.com/pads/)
Presents
Debian Policy
When:
Wednesday 20 September 2000, 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM
Presenter
Hi,
PADS (Philadelphia Area Debian Society) will meet this coming Wednesday
to continue a discussion of Debian's Policy.
PADS Main Meeting:
Topic: An Overview of Debian Policy
Speaker: Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
When: Wednesday, July 21st from 8:00PM - 9:30PM
Where
Greetings,
The PDG-LUG (The Philadelphia Debian GNU/Linux User's Group) will meet
this coming Wednesday (third wed. of the month) to discuss ``Debian
Policy''.
PDG-LUG Main Meeting:
Topic: An Overview of Debian Policy
Speaker: Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
When:
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