r, this error
> message continues to happen/occur. This has only started to occur since I've
> upgraded to Debian 12.
I have no idea what the restic backup is or does, but how is your
rsync backup invoked?
What is happening is that whatever in there wants to talk to your
session D-Bu
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Hi.
With every back up, being whether its a restic backup hourly to another hard
drive on this machine, or an rsync backup to my synology server, this error
message continues to happen/occur. This has only started to occur since I've
upgraded t
Graphics 630 (CFL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa
22.2.0-rc2
Since some months ago I have been getting a kind of video reset
(similar to a switch back to tty0) for each first logging in both
using GDM (and GNOME Wayland) or the text console.
I have finally figure out that it is some D-BUS activation effect
because
On 10/17/2017 06:22 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
Am 17.10.2017 um 14:49 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus;
Michael I found it interesting that I do not have a folder /org/ .hidden
or not and that's with kde5 desktop on Stretch.
Those are
Am 17.10.2017 um 14:49 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
>>> path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus;
> Michael I found it interesting that I do not have a folder /org/ .hidden
> or not and that's with kde5 desktop on Stretch.
Those are D-Bus path names, no
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 12.12.2014 14:54, Richard Owlett a écrit :
I.E. "Who is responsible for the integrity of *MY* system?"
The correct answer is the proverbial "Me, Myself, and I."
It is most definitely not an individual nor group whom I've
never met.
There is most definite
2014/12/15 0:28 :
>
>
>
> Le 13.12.2014 05:10, Joel Rees a écrit :
>>
>> 2014/12/13 1:29 :
>>
>> >
>> > Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit :
>> >>
>> >> I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org
>> [2] [5],
>>
>> >> didn't I? ;-/
>> >
>> >
>> > Indeed.
>> >
>> >
On 12/12/2014 10:46 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
2014/12/13 3:44 "Miles Fidelman" :
So... in all of this thread, I have yet to see anybody actually talk
about 9p or plumber - details, and more importantly, in comparison to D-Bus.
People are concerned about impacts to their particular
Le 13.12.2014 05:10, Joel Rees a écrit :
2014/12/13 1:29 :
>
> Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit :
>>
>> I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org
[2] [5],
>> didn't I? ;-/
>
>
> Indeed.
>
>
>> My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from
lications using it which are in danger. Plus, it's
not portable.
_ having a signal+socket+configuration protocol, which needs to be
updated everytime an application is added to the system.
Here are some introductory things...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus
https://techbase.kde.org/Dev
2014/12/13 1:29 :
>
> Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit :
>>
>> I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org [5],
>> didn't I? ;-/
>
>
> Indeed.
>
>
>> My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from
>> scratch, I think. Stuff that just tries to be a lazy man
2014/12/13 3:44 "Miles Fidelman" :
>
> So... in all of this thread, I have yet to see anybody actually talk
about 9p or plumber - details, and more importantly, in comparison to D-Bus.
>
> I mean, 9p has been in the Linux Kernal for years (as compared to, say,
kdbus), and
So... in all of this thread, I have yet to see anybody actually talk
about 9p or plumber - details, and more importantly, in comparison to D-Bus.
I mean, 9p has been in the Linux Kernal for years (as compared to, say,
kdbus), and it is actually used in some interesting places
(erlang-on-xen
Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit :
I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org [5],
didn't I? ;-/
Indeed.
My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from
scratch, I think. Stuff that just tries to be a lazy man's sockets
largely left out, I think.
I
Plus, it's not portable
>> >>> (anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on
>> *BSD, too)
>> >>> unlike sockets.
>> >>
>> >> From http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ [3]
>> >>
&g
have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on
*BSD, too)
>>> unlike sockets.
>>
>>
>> From http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ [3]
>>
>> D-Bus is very portable to any Linux or UNIX flavor, and a
port to
>> Wi
Le 12.12.2014 14:54, Richard Owlett a écrit :
I.E. "Who is responsible for the integrity of *MY* system?"
The correct answer is the proverbial "Me, Myself, and I."
It is most definitely not an individual nor group whom I've never
met.
There is most definitely a need for such systems as the va
x27;s on *BSD,
too)
>>> unlike sockets.
>>
>>
>> From http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/
>>
>> D-Bus is very portable to any Linux or UNIX flavor, and a port to
>> Windows is in progress.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andrei
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 11.12.2014 18:21, Richard Owlett a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
[snip]
Now, if you think multi-user OSes are not that good, I think
there is an OS with a different kernel somewhere (not Linux, not
*BSD, not Hurd, not Windows, not ReactO
Le 12.12.2014 13:14, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Vi, 12 dec 14, 11:35:03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, you have to choose between:
_ having a daemon running everytime, and an application which needs
to
listen at it's socket everytime (I guess it's how dbus works? If
someone
have
On Vi, 12 dec 14, 11:35:03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
> So, you have to choose between:
> _ having a daemon running everytime, and an application which needs to
> listen at it's socket everytime (I guess it's how dbus works? If someone
> have any clue about this part of internal, I wo
Le 12.12.2014 13:05, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Plus, it's not portable
(anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on
*BSD, too)
unlike sockets.
From http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Plus, it's not portable
> (anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on *BSD, too)
> unlike sockets.
From http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/
D-Bus is very portable to any L
Le 12.12.2014 06:13, seeker5528 a écrit :
On 12/11/2014 8:33 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 08.12.2014 18:59, Marty a écrit :
If this proves feasible, that's what I hope to do. I just want to
know
if anyone thinks it's a good idea, before I commit time and
resources.
My kno
Le 11.12.2014 20:27, Martin Read a écrit :
On 11/12/14 17:21, Richard Owlett wrote:
There is a market (how large???) for a single user single task
computer
and OS.
It's very large indeed! Apple, and the various customers (e.g.
Samsung, LG, HTC) of Google and Microsoft, are quite enthusiasti
Le 11.12.2014 18:21, Richard Owlett a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
[snip]
Now, if you think multi-user OSes are not that good, I think
there is an OS with a different kernel somewhere (not Linux, not
*BSD, not Hurd, not Windows, not ReactOS...) which wants to build
a single us
On 12/11/2014 8:33 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 08.12.2014 18:59, Marty a écrit :
If this proves feasible, that's what I hope to do. I just want to know
if anyone thinks it's a good idea, before I commit time and resources.
My knowledge of all of the issues is sketchy at best.
On 12/11/2014 11:33 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Well... this model is still very used in enterprises. I do not speak
about those old mainframes which are still bought by very huge
corporations (at least, I've heard so)
Huh? :D Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"Th
On 11/12/14 17:21, Richard Owlett wrote:
There is a market (how large???) for a single user single task computer
and OS.
It's very large indeed! Apple, and the various customers (e.g. Samsung,
LG, HTC) of Google and Microsoft, are quite enthusiastic about selling
devices that (superficially)
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
[snip]
Now, if you think multi-user OSes are not that good, I think
there is an OS with a different kernel somewhere (not Linux, not
*BSD, not Hurd, not Windows, not ReactOS...) which wants to build
a single user system.
Can't remember the name, I only rememb
Le 10.12.2014 21:34, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:27:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
What is 'PoC'? Probably will be blindly obvious once I've been told.
Most likely "Proof of Concept".
Yes.
By PoC I mean a small set of program/library which demonstrates that
something is doab
but I want to get some ideas from a wider audience.
I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and D-Bus, to compare how
they
try to solve the same set of problems.
Plan 9 concepts attempt to solve Unix problems in a very different
way than Opendesktop.org. For people wanting to return to the
ori
often with great expenditure of personal time
> and effort. Some of us are still willing to advocate for choice as a
> core principle
>
> Infinite choice is in the end not possible. But let us at least try to be
>> honest and avoid hypocrisy.
>>
>
> It was supposed to be a
ble. But let us at least try to be
honest and avoid hypocrisy.
It was supposed to be a joke, so let's also not try to twist the issues
beyond recognition. There's really no good answer for anyone with
contempt for user choice who makes a mock defense to press a point.
So yes, please
say "I would even deign to give users a choice in
> the matter", and on the other you suggest making functionality that real
> people are using on real computers "go away".
Quite. "Choice" means "everyone must have what I want"; not "everyone must be
On 12/10/2014 at 03:34 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:27:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
>> What is 'PoC'? Probably will be blindly obvious once I've been
>> told.
>
> Most likely "Proof of Concept".
>
> Wikipedia's disambiguation pages have generally been quite helpful
> for me in
any policy of intentional
incompatibility requiring forced upgrades and lock in. That's probably
where my plan falls apart, but it's too late for the cattle prod version
of my plan. I'll be back as a sock puppet for that. :)
By all means, embark on your endeavour in creating alternati
On 08/12/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
>> I would even deign to
>> give users a choice in the matter,
> [snip]
>> Multi-seat PC and other
>> anachronisms probably have to go away.
>
> Choice???
>
> Lisi
>
>
Ah, yes choice.
As "Multi-seat PC"
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:27:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> What is 'PoC'? Probably will be blindly obvious once I've been told.
Most likely "Proof of Concept".
Wikipedia's disambiguation pages have generally been quite helpful for
me in figuring out this kind of stuff.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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n but I want to get some ideas from a wider audience.
I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and D-Bus, to compare how they
try to solve the same set of problems.
Plan 9 concepts attempt to solve Unix problems in a very different
way than Opendesktop.org. For people wanting to return to th
I want to get some ideas from a wider audience.
> >
> >I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and D-Bus, to compare how they
> >try to solve the same set of problems.
> >
> >Plan 9 concepts attempt to solve Unix problems in a very different
> >way than Opend
s a choice in
the matter", and on the other you suggest making functionality that real
people are using on real computers "go away".
By all means, embark on your endeavour in creating alternatives to
D-Bus. Just remember that to be a convincing alternative, it has to
solve *
On 12/08/2014 10:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
About anachronism... you should read about what is the minitel*, and
then, consider thinking about how most people uses their computers ;)
*: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel
Anyone remember GTE Telemail?? :) Ric
--
My father
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:10:05 PM UTC+5:30, Marty wrote:
> On 12/08/2014 09:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
> >> I would even deign to
> >> give users a choice in the matter,
> > [snip]
> >> Multi-seat PC and other
> >> anachronisms probably
On 12/08/2014 09:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
I would even deign to
give users a choice in the matter,
[snip]
Multi-seat PC and other
anachronisms probably have to go away.
Choice???
Lisi
The industry and its plans for FOSS is strongly anti-ch
wider audience.
I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and D-Bus, to compare how
they
try to solve the same set of problems.
Plan 9 concepts attempt to solve Unix problems in a very different
way than Opendesktop.org. For people wanting to return to the
original
Unix concepts, 9p/plumber (or
Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit :
I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary
Debian
users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on
modular-debian but I want to get some ideas from a wider audience.
I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and
On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
> I would even deign to
> give users a choice in the matter,
[snip]
> Multi-seat PC and other
> anachronisms probably have to go away.
Choice???
Lisi
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I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary Debian
users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on
modular-debian but I want to get some ideas from a wider audience.
I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and D-Bus, to compare how they
try to solv
Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins wrote:
> It seems that now everytime I try to open the remote folders on
> Nautilus I just recieve the "DBus error
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply
> (timeout by message bus)".
I don't know about this message.
> One thing that
I have around ten computers in a properly configured network all
running Debian Wheezy.
After I installed task-file-server in all of them I have been able to
share the 'Public' folder of every machine and transfer files within
the network.
It seems that now everytime I try to open the remote fold
On Mon,15.Jun.09, 08:59:59, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> The problem is, I think, that someone upstream thinks that this
> limitation is a feature not a bug, and so it's unlikely to get fixed.
Writing an app to be run as root is not a trivial thing. Too many things
can go wrong. Did you investigate
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:12:08AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:59:59AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> >> The problem is, I think, that someone upstream thinks that this
> >> limitation is a feature not a bug, an
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:59:59AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> The problem is, I think, that someone upstream thinks that this
> limitation is a feature not a bug, and so it's unlikely to get fixed.
I am not the right person to judge this. It may be a right decision and
it is a feature.
But
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:59:59AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
>> The problem is, I think, that someone upstream thinks that this
>> limitation is a feature not a bug, and so it's unlikely to get fixed.
>
> I am not the right person to judge t
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:59:56AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> ...
>> >> This is a design restriction in D-Bus."
>> >> [http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518390] Well,
>> >>
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:59:56AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
...
> >> This is a design restriction in D-Bus."
> >> [http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518390] Well,
> >> that's just stupid, especially for experienced users like myself
On Jun 14, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Rick Thomas
wrote:
Bug reported as Bug#533089
Sadly, if your diagnosis is correct, it may not be fixable...
Oh well, I guess that's what "sudo -i" in a normal terminal is for...
'sudo -l' you mean? That
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> Bug reported as Bug#533089
>
> Sadly, if your diagnosis is correct, it may not be fixable...
>
> Oh well, I guess that's what "sudo -i" in a normal terminal is for...
'sudo -l' you mean? That (or just 'su' alone) gives me root access
within
Bug reported as Bug#533089
Sadly, if your diagnosis is correct, it may not be fixable...
Oh well, I guess that's what "sudo -i" in a normal terminal is for...
Rick
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ot Terminal in the Accessories menu is, for some reason,
> > disabled. (This is on a fully up-to-date, amd64, testing system.)
>
> Further Googling informs me that "the result [of Gconf using D-Bus] is
> that root applications can’t use the user’s GConf settings anymore.
> Th
.
>> >
>> > Which, I suppose, is slightly more informative. But the fact remains
>> > that Root Terminal in the Accessories menu is, for some reason,
>> > disabled. (This is on a fully up-to-date, amd64, testing system.)
>>
>> Further Googling informs
upported and host-based
> authentication failed
>
> Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.
>
> Which, I suppose, is slightly more informative. But the fact remains
> that Root Terminal in the Accessories menu is, for some reason,
> disabled. (This is on a fully up-to-dat
Hi, is there a way to send a message using "dbus-send" that appears at
the desktop kind of what libnotify does? if not, is there a similar way
to do that using console? Thanks...
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ms on my system. the most recent is that i
> > > > > can't run gaim properly. when i try to, the screen appears
> > > > > momentarily and then goes away, leaving the folowing error message in
> > > > > the console.
> > > > >
> > > >
of my testing system recently and afterwards have
> > > > found a nubmer of problems on my system. the most recent is that i
> > > > can't run gaim properly. when i try to, the screen appears
> > > > momentarily and then goes away, leaving the folowing
er of problems on my system. the most recent is that i can't run
> > > gaim properly. when i try to, the screen appears momentarily and then
> > > goes away, leaving the folowing error message in the console.
> > >
> > >
> > >D-Bus library appe
gaim properly. when i try to, the screen appears momentarily and then
> > goes away, leaving the folowing error message in the console.
> >
> >
> >D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read
> >machine uuid: Failed to open "/var/lib/dbus
then goes away,
> leaving the folowing error message in the console.
>
>
>D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read
>machine uuid: Failed to open "/var/lib/dbus/machine-id": No such
>file or directory
>See the manual page for dbus-u
i did an upgrade of my testing system recently and afterwards have found a
nubmer of problems on my system. the most recent is that i can't run gaim
properly. when i try to, the screen appears momentarily and then goes away,
leaving the folowing error message in the console.
D-Bus li
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