Re: long fsck [was Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")]

2000-10-18 Thread Jeff Green
Nothing, I apologise. Nathan E Norman wrote: > What does this have to do with the original topic anyway?

long fsck [was Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")]

2000-10-18 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 01:05:56AM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: > Try remote rebooting a server with a 120Gig Raid array and 1GB Ram takes > several hours to come up if wants an fsck! Not if you're using reiserfs or some other journalling filesystem on the RAID array! What does this have to do with t

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-18 Thread mike
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:13:21 -0700, Joe Emenaker said: > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: > > > > > and a couple of others. In other words, upon reboot, there was no > > > network connectivity and no way to GET network connectivity without > > > bringing in netbase and it's dependen

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 05:13:21PM -0700, Joe Emenaker wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: > > So uh, why did you let it? > I presume this would have been your response if I had reported that 'vi' had > deleted my kernel images, too? :) > Why did I "let" it?!?! Because I was neve

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: > It seems so basic. When you say "apt-get install ..." the "plan" is clearly > the addition of software to the system. Removal is patently "not part of the > plan", unless explicitly acknowledged by the user. If apt executed removals you were prompted an

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Joe Emenaker
> Just out of curiosity; what did you install that conflicted with netbase and > friends? I was upgrading mysql-server, of all things. Granted, this was on a system that hadn't been refreshed in about 3 months or so, so there were about 100 packages that dselect wanted to bring up-to-date. That

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Brent Buchholz
Just out of curiosity; what did you install that conflicted with netbase and friends? Brent

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Joe Emenaker
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: > > > and a couple of others. In other words, upon reboot, there was no > > network connectivity and no way to GET network connectivity without > > bringing in netbase and it's dependencies via floppy disk. > > So uh, why did you let it? I presume this wo

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Jeff Green
Try remote rebooting a server with a 120Gig Raid array and 1GB Ram takes several hours to come up if wants an fsck! "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > > another reason why you shouldnt reboot a box from remote :) when one of my > servers needs a reboot i always make sure someone is nearby incase > some

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
another reason why you shouldnt reboot a box from remote :) when one of my servers needs a reboot i always make sure someone is nearby incase something goes bad. for the same reason i refuse to attempt a slink->potato upgrade from remote, too risky. of course i also pray whenever rebooting a serve

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Jeff Green wrote: > Surely a quick trip to /var/cache/apt/archives and a run of dpkg -i with > the right package names would have fixed this, if apt-get doesn't apt-get install with the right package names would have also fixed it, and told you when you finally got the right

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Jeff Green
Surely a quick trip to /var/cache/apt/archives and a run of dpkg -i with the right package names would have fixed this, if apt-get doesn't install without some extra fiddling this is usually a message to you. Make damn sure you know what it is doing, especially if you, like me are several thousand

Re: Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: > It seems that apt-get decided to UNINSTALL: > o netkit-inetd > o ipchains > o netbase > and a couple of others. In other words, upon reboot, there was no > network connectivity and no way to GET network connectivity without > bringing in netbase

Apt should be called "inapt" (rhymes with "inept")

2000-10-17 Thread Joe Emenaker
I tried to install a package using apt-get yesterday. It complained about dependencies for some stuff. It suggested that I use "apt-get -f install {packagename}".   So I did   It downloaded a bundle of packages, whizzed through the configurations for them in no time at all.   Everything s