Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-21 Thread debian-user
Nicolas George wrote: > Tom Browder (HE12025-04-21): > > $ time raku -e ‘my $s = “a” x 25; my $r = “a?” x 25 ~ “a” x 25; > > if ($s ~= $r) { say “yes” } ‘ > > I almost asked if Raku uses pairs of Unicode quotes instead of the > symmetrical ASCII one; then I noticed

Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Nicolas George wrote: > Tom Browder (HE12025-04-21): > > $ time raku -e ‘my $s = “a” x 25; my $r = “a?” x 25 ~ “a” x 25; if > > ($s ~= $r) { say “yes” } ‘ > > I almost asked if Raku uses pairs of Unicode quotes instead of the > symmetrical ASCII one; then I noticed

Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 09:20 Nicolas George wrote: > > Tom Browder (HE12025-04-21): > > $ time raku -e ‘my $s = “a” x 25; my $r = “a?” x 25 ~ “a” x 25; if > > ($s ~= $r) { say “yes” } ‘ > > I almost asked if Raku uses pairs of Unicode quotes instead of the > sy

Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 04:19:43PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Tom Browder (HE12025-04-21): > > $ time raku -e ‘my $s = “a” x 25; my $r = “a?” x 25 ~ “a” x 25; if > > ($s ~= $r) { say “yes” } ‘ > > I almost asked if Raku uses pairs of Unicode quotes instead of the &g

Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-21 Thread Nicolas George
Tom Browder (HE12025-04-21): > $ time raku -e ‘my $s = “a” x 25; my $r = “a?” x 25 ~ “a” x 25; if > ($s ~= $r) { say “yes” } ‘ I almost asked if Raku uses pairs of Unicode quotes instead of the symmetrical ASCII one; then I noticed the single quotes, and I know the shell does not. &g

Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-21 Thread Tom Browder
; > been extended) since then. > > [...] > > > It still has the issue. > > > > hobbit:~$ time perl -e '$s = "a" x 25; $r = "a?" x 25 . "a" x 25; if ($s =~ > > $r) { print "yes\n"; }' > > yes > > real 1.354 user 1.349 s

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 4/21/25 7:17 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Em 21/04/2025 08:50, Richard Owlett escreveu: That does *NOT* express *MY* question!!! Then you should have stated your question more clearly. It was evidently clear enough to *YOU* that you could [and *did] explicitly answer my explicit quest

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Em 21/04/2025 08:50, Richard Owlett escreveu: That does *NOT* express *MY* question!!! Then you should have stated your question more clearly. Asking a vague a confusing question and then strongly emphasing that what people have gone to the trouble of responding to you is not what you wanted

Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-21 Thread tomas
> hobbit:~$ time perl -e '$s = "a" x 25; $r = "a?" x 25 . "a" x 25; if ($s =~ > $r) { print "yes\n"; }' > yes > real 1.354 user 1.349 sys 0.004 > > That's with perl 5.36.0 from Bookworm. Thanks for checking :-) I have s

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 4/20/25 10:40 AM, David wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 at 14:17, George at Clug wrote: Sorry, but I do not understand the meaning of your words: "universe of discourse" "entity goals" And I am confused by this sentences: "A significant number of which mention Kate *or* Kwrite *or* Katepart."

Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
s a Thompson algorithm. Note that this was back in 2007 and > quite possibly Perl's engine has been refined (it definitely has > been extended) since then. > > Cheers > > [3] https://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html It still has the issue. hobbit:~$ time perl -e '$s =

Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

2025-04-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 12:08:53AM +, David wrote: > On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 at 17:42, wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 05:58:31PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > > Err, did you notice the bit in that reference that says: "It documents > > > regular expressions in the form availa

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread David
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 at 17:42, wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 05:58:31PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Err, did you notice the bit in that reference that says: "It documents > > regular expressions in the form available within KatePart, which is not > > compatible with the regular

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 05:58:31PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > wrote: [...] > > Note that regular expressions come in slightly different flavours. > > Going by Kate's documentation [1] on this topic they seem to be > > PCRE or a variant thereof. > > > > Cheers > > > > [1] > > ht

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread debian-user
wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 08:45:58AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 4/20/25 7:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 07:27:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > I'm restarting a editing project that could take advantage of > > > > using "regular expression

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 08:45:58AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 4/20/25 7:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 07:27:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I'm restarting a editing project that could take advantage of using > > > "regular > > > expressions". > > > > >

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread David
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 at 14:17, George at Clug wrote: > Sorry, but I do not understand the meaning of your words: > "universe of discourse" > "entity goals" > And I am confused by this sentences: > "A significant number of which mention Kate *or* Kwrite *or* Katepart." > "In a discussion of "regul

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread David
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 at 13:46, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 4/20/25 7:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 07:27:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I need to understand the entity goals of Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart. > I.E. In a discussion of "regular expressions", does it mat

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread George at Clug
On Sunday, 20-04-2025 at 23:45 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 4/20/25 7:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 07:27:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I'm restarting a editing project that could take advantage of using > >> "regular > >> expressions". > >> > >> I had stated

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 4/20/25 7:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 07:27:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm restarting a editing project that could take advantage of using "regular expressions". I had stated using Kate for the project. I'm reviewing my regular expression related web search

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread David Wright
On Sun 20 Apr 2025 at 07:27:12 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm restarting a editing project that could take advantage of using > "regular expressions". > > I had stated using Kate for the project. > > I'm reviewing my regular expression related web searches. It would be > helpful if I could

Re: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 07:27:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm restarting a editing project that could take advantage of using "regular > expressions". > > I had stated using Kate for the project. > > I'm reviewing my regular expression related web searches. It would be > helpful if I coul

Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart

2025-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm restarting a editing project that could take advantage of using "regular expressions". I had stated using Kate for the project. I'm reviewing my regular expression related web searches. It would be helpful if I could find a _single_ document that made comparison between/among Kate, Kwrite

Tardy Thank-you [Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?]

2025-02-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/4/24 3:13 PM, David wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 at 12:22, Richard Owlett wrote: I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . [...] 2. Is there a script that would download it to a specific local

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Dan Ritter
Bitfox wrote: > > after downloading, is it possible to convert all html files into a single > pdf? any tool in linux to do that? Thanks. Yes, pandoc is packaged and can do that easily. -dsr-

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Bitfox
On 2024-12-04 20:11, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2024-12-04, Richard Owlett wrote: I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . Two questions: 1. Has someone packaged it as a downloadable file? 2. Is t

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread David
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 at 12:22, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. > A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . [...] >2. Is there a script that would download it to a specific local > directory in a manner t

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Dec 2024 at 13:13:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/4/24 12:17 PM, Xiyue Deng wrote: > > Richard Owlett writes: > > > > > I recently discovered Kate. One might think its design goals were how I > > > work and a specific personal project I have. Get idea that I like it ;} > > >

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/4/24 12:17 PM, Xiyue Deng wrote: Richard Owlett writes: I recently discovered Kate. One might think its design goals were how I work and a specific personal project I have. Get idea that I like it ;} I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. A fine manual at https:/

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Xiyue Deng
Richard Owlett writes: > I recently discovered Kate. One might think its design goals were how I > work and a specific personal project I have. Get idea that I like it ;} > > I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. > A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/ka

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/12/2024 22:46, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/4/24 9:20 AM, Max Nikulin wrote: On 04/12/2024 18:27, Richard Owlett wrote: A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . Is it different from docs available in khelpcenter? To what URL do you refer? I mean local h

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Dec 2024 at 09:00:06 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/4/24 6:11 AM, Michel Verdier wrote: > > On 2024-12-04, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. > > > A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html .

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/4/24 9:20 AM, Max Nikulin wrote: On 04/12/2024 18:27, Richard Owlett wrote: I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . Two questions:    1. Has someone packaged it as a downloadable file? Is it d

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/12/2024 18:27, Richard Owlett wrote: I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . Two questions:   1. Has someone packaged it as a downloadable file? Is it different from docs available in khelpcen

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/4/24 6:11 AM, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2024-12-04, Richard Owlett wrote: I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . Two questions: 1. Has someone packaged it as a downloadable file? 2. Is th

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/4/24 6:06 AM, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2024 at 6:27 AM From: "Richard Owlett" To: "debian-user" Subject: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)? I recently discovered Kate. One might think its design goals were how I

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-12-04, Richard Owlett wrote: > I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. > A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . > > Two questions: > 1. Has someone packaged it as a downloadable file? > 2. Is there a script that would download it

Re: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2024 at 6:27 AM > From: "Richard Owlett" > To: "debian-user" > Subject: Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)? > > I recently discovered Kate. One might think its design goals were how I > work and a s

Kate editor documentation as downloadable HTML file(s)?

2024-12-04 Thread Richard Owlett
I recently discovered Kate. One might think its design goals were how I work and a specific personal project I have. Get idea that I like it ;} I find HTML formatted documentation much more usable than PDF. A fine manual at https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kate/kate/index.html . Two questions:

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-12-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/1/24 6:12 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 04:43:00AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [SNIP] What should I do next ( /etc/debian_version reports 12.7)? apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you're up to date then reboot. At that point, /etc/debian-version sh

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-12-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
important detail when bringing the issue to > > the mailing list. > > > > In terminal mode as root I did "apt update" which concluded:= > > Fetched 62.1 MB in 30s (2,070 kB/s) > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree... Done > &

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-12-01 Thread Richard Owlett
it, or I might try "apt update; apt install ghostscript" depending on which one I feel is more likely to work at that moment. In terminal mode as root I did "apt update" which concluded:= Fetched 62.1 MB in 30s (2,070 kB/s) Re

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 14:45:01 +, Joe wrote: > I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12 is > version 12u6, not 12u5. > > What happens when you try: > > apt upgrade ghostscript "apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument. It tries to upgrade *all*

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-11-30 Thread Joe
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 05:18:35 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/29/24 12:30 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > >> Running Debian 12.7 with MATE > >> When launching Synaptic I get a message saying > >>[ You have 1 broken package on yo

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-11-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/29/24 12:30 PM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: Running Debian 12.7 with MATE When launching Synaptic I get a message saying [ You have 1 broken package on your system!" Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ] Synaptic's Help

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-11-29 Thread Joe
On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 12:30:44 -0600 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > > Running Debian 12.7 with MATE > > When launching Synaptic I get a message saying > > [ You have 1 broken package on your system!" > > Use the "Broken" filter to locate

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-11-29 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > Running Debian 12.7 with MATE > When launching Synaptic I get a message saying > [ You have 1 broken package on your system!" > Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ] > Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{ > It also reports pa

Re: Synaptic problem(s)

2024-11-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 07:55:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Running Debian 12.7 with MATE > When launching Synaptic I get a message saying > [ You have 1 broken package on your system!" > Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ] > Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{ > It also reports

Synaptic problem(s)

2024-11-28 Thread Richard Owlett
Running Debian 12.7 with MATE When launching Synaptic I get a message saying [ You have 1 broken package on your system!" Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ] Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{ It also reports packages to be updated. Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-25 Thread gene heskett
On 11/24/24 12:06, Hans wrote: Hello Alexander, thank you very much for your response. Short answer: Not usable. Hmm, that is a pity. Long answer: As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions. +100 or more. I bought a voron trident, $1300 + ship, 3 years ago? Carton a

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-25 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 24.11.2024 22:05, Hans wrote: Long answer: As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions. You have to always look up _specifications_ on Intel official website or websites of other vendors.Seller claims this device has N100 CPU [1], but in Characteristics section it is actual

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I am frustrated that I cannot perceive any performance improvements in > CPUs since the 4th Gen i7s. This is likely due to the software I use > does not gain any perceptible improvement from running on > a faster CPU? Not really, it's simply that, since the end of [Dennard scaling](https://en.wi

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 25-11-2024 at 03:39 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > a CPU that is less than the performance of an i5. > > Side note: such a description is not very useful because a 10 year old > i7 can be significantly less powerful than a recent i3. While ymmv is valid, I favour i7 CPUs (and Ryzen 7) ov

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 25-11-2024 at 04:29 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks to all who replied. With only 4 GB, I'm not interested in that > laptop, > but I was maybe most concerned about S-mode (in Windows). Me too. There are many Windows programs I like to install that I do not wa

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 12:52 PM wrote: > > Ahh, ok, thanks -- that's pretty clear that there is no memory slot, and, even > though I wouldn't use the laptop for much -- to demo some software "on the > road", 4 MB is very limiting. The SSD might be soldered onto the motherboard, too. I found that

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread rhkramer
You're mostly right, I'm not terribly sorry, but I don't use it on every email or post I make -- on debian-user typically only the first post in a thread I might start or possibly in the first comment I make to a thread. I've fixed the sig separator. But let me ask you, do you complain to those

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 12:34:17PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > But let me ask you, do you complain to those that quote all or most of the > previous posts in a thread when they have no relevant comment about most of > what they've quoted? Now and then, yes. Though it often doesn't have m

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread rhkramer
Thanks to all who replied. With only 4 GB, I'm not interested in that laptop, but I was maybe most concerned about S-mode (in Windows). I assume that would not keep me from installing Linux, I mean, presumably I can still get into the BIOS (or the newer (to me) style of BIOS) and load

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Hans
Hello Alexander, thank you very much for your response. > Short answer: Not usable. Hmm, that is a pity. > Long answer: > As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions. > You have to always look up _specifications_ on Intel official website or > websites of other vendors.Sel

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> a CPU that is less than the performance of an i5. Side note: such a description is not very useful because a 10 year old i7 can be significantly less powerful than a recent i3. Stefan

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Dan Ritter
Hans wrote: > I discovered some small laptops (10 inch and 7 inch), with an Intel N100 > processor, up to 16 GB RAM and ump to 1 TB disk. But shipped with windows. > > 2 questions: > > 1. Does one have any experience, if the N100 cpu is usable for fluently work? > These processors are also b

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread rhkramer
Ahh, ok, thanks -- that's pretty clear that there is no memory slot, and, even though I wouldn't use the laptop for much -- to demo some software "on the road", 4 MB is very limiting. On Saturday, November 23, 2024 06:39:12 PM George at Clug wrote: > The link you provided about the Laptop states

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 24.11.2024 14:21, Hans wrote: Following the discussion here, iI would like to ask something. I discovered some small laptops (10 inch and 7 inch), with an Intel N100 processor, up to 16 GB RAM and ump to 1 TB disk. But shipped with windows. 2 questions: 1. Does one have any experience, if

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Hans
Following the discussion here, iI would like to ask something. I discovered some small laptops (10 inch and 7 inch), with an Intel N100 processor, up to 16 GB RAM and ump to 1 TB disk. But shipped with windows. 2 questions: 1. Does one have any experience, if the N100 cpu is usable for fluent

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread tomas
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 09:51:16AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: [...] > Way too kind. > > Calling cheap asses cheap asses is IMNSHO better kindness for mankind. Don't be so harsh on people. Rather be harsh on the corps fleecing them. Trying to get a cheap computer is understandable if your bud

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 10:07:57PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:38:56PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in > > S-mode > > > > I assume (I know), but am not sure

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread rhkramer
Oops, failed to send to the list -- resending. On Saturday, November 23, 2024 06:15:45 PM George at Clug wrote: > On Sunday, 24-11-2024 at 07:44 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Ahh, with respect to RAM, there is an empty SODIMM slot and at least one > > site has installed an 8 GB stick there for a t

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread George at Clug
L510KA-NB21 Part Number 90NB0UJ5-M016D0 Quick InfoColor LCD Cover: Star Black, Plastic Top Case: Black, Plastic Operating SystemWindows 11 in S mode CPU Intel Pentium Silver N6000 1.10 GHz Screen 15.6" Memory 4 GB DDR4 Storage 64 GB eMMC Graphics Card I

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread George at Clug
/N82E16834236521?Item=N82E16834236521] > > [ASUS 15.6" Vivobook Go Laptop, FHD, Intel Pentium N6000 Quad Core, 4GB > > RAM, 64GB SSD, Windows 11 in S Mode, Star Black, L510KA-NB21]] > >

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:38:56PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in > S-mode > (link below). > > I assume (I know), but am not sure that I will be able to load Linux on that > laptop -- can anyon

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:38:56 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > 64GB SSD Sorry, I can't tell you for sure if Linux will load on one of these, not having done the experiment. I can tell you that I would not plan on dual booting. I have Windows 11 on two of my machines here, and have shrunk its par

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:38:56PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Rh Kramer > > -- > rhk > > | Sorry about the sig -- some people think it is too long -- it is my soapbox. No, you aren't, and you know you aren't. So drop the fake apology. Over 40 lines of sig on an approx 20 line email! At

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread rhkramer
Go Laptop, FHD, Intel Pentium N6000 Quad Core, 4GB > RAM, 64GB SSD, Windows 11 in S Mode, Star Black, L510KA-NB21]]

Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread rhkramer
I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode (link below). I assume (I know), but am not sure that I will be able to load Linux on that laptop -- can anyone tell me for sure? PS: I'd also want to expand the RAM and I have to find out if I can do that. c

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-06 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
lly start the compilation process under screen, and I record everything using C-a H. You might prefer termux, but well, I think I started using screen around 1990, kind of a bad habit. That's probably about when I stopped using C-s (?). Or even sometimes I just use script -- or even asciinema (

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Nicolas George
Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/ / make you wanted to pause to inspect > > something? > On slow, physical VT100 terminals, indeed, I used that over 20 years > ago. On virtual ones they are usually to

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 09:15:56AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Nicolas George [2024-11-05 12:11:39] wrote: > > Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): > >> It could have been handy on a real tty > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/… / make y

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
Nicolas George [2024-11-05 12:11:39] wrote: > Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): >> It could have been handy on a real tty > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/… / make you wanted to pause to inspect > something? I always use `C-z` for that.

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 12:11:39PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): > > It could have been handy on a real tty > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/… / make you wanted to pause to inspect > something? > It's

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 12:49:46PM +0100, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 12:11:39PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > > It could have been handy on a real tty > > > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/ / mak

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 12:11:39PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > It could have been handy on a real tty > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/ / make you wanted to pause to inspect > something? On slow, physical VT100 termin

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Nicolas George
et out of the "pause" by typing C-q, after they types C-s by > mistake. Then the first time it happens to them they will search for “linux terminal frozen” on the web and learn something. > Just curious whether there is a reason why it is not disabled in .bashrc? Changing rando

XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, Something funny is that on a pty you have XON/XOFF software flow control enabled by default: - if you type C-s (XOFF), output will be paused - if you type C-q (XON), output will be resumed It could have been handy on a real tty -- serial line/port -- although when I was using

Re: Debian does not start on ASUS Vivobook S 16

2024-10-13 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 10:05:43AM +, Alex Petrov wrote: > After installation of Debian Bookworm 12.7, Debian list a bunch of hardware > errors and hangs at start on a ASUS Vivobook S 16 laptop with AMD Ryzen AI > 9 HX 370 CPU and AMD 890M GPU. "at start after installation"

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-13 Thread debian-user
Karl Vogel wrote: > Removing the --quiet flag and using something like safesys() would: > > * let systemctl write something (hopefully an error message), > * show exactly what arguments are being passed to it, and > * show its exit value. Your safesys includes basically exactly the code

Debian does not start on ASUS Vivobook S 16

2024-10-13 Thread Alex Petrov
After installation of Debian Bookworm 12.7, Debian list a bunch of hardware errors and hangs at start on a ASUS Vivobook S 16 laptop with AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 CPU and AMD 890M GPU. I am going to test Ubuntu that some people say works. It is stange that Debian can not. Do you know a way to run

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Karl Vogel
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 21:43:39 -0400, I mistakenly wrote: > See the ":" followed by two spaces? Unlike systemctl, well-behaved > programs set "errno" when they puke, and that setting is turned into > a more-or-less useful error message like "Permission denied". > "$!" would have held that messag

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread tomas
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 10:23:00PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 21:43:39 -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > > >> In previous messages: > > > > > > system('systemctl', '--quiet', [...] , @start_units) == 0 > > > or die("Could not execute systemctl: $!"); > > > > > > Co

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 21:43:39 -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > >> In previous messages: > > > > system('systemctl', '--quiet', [...] , @start_units) == 0 > > or die("Could not execute systemctl: $!"); > > > > Could not execute systemctl: at /usr/bin/deb-systemd-invoke line 148. > > S

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Karl Vogel
>> In previous messages: > > system('systemctl', '--quiet', [...] , @start_units) == 0 > or die("Could not execute systemctl: $!"); > > Could not execute systemctl: at /usr/bin/deb-systemd-invoke line 148. See the ":" followed by two spaces? Unlike systemctl, well-behaved progr

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Cassidy wrote: > > > Could not execute systemctl: at /usr/bin/deb-systemd-invoke line > > > 148. i wrote: > > system('systemctl', '--quiet', @instance_args, $action, @start_units) == > > 0 or die("Could not execute systemctl: $!"); > > https://sources.debian.org/src/init-system-helpe

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread debian-user
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > > Hi, > > > > John Cassidy wrote: > > > > Could not execute systemctl: at /usr/bin/deb-systemd-invoke > > > > line 148. > > > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > That's a very strange and specific error message. Is your > > > syste

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread debian-user
"Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > John Cassidy wrote: > > > Could not execute systemctl: at /usr/bin/deb-systemd-invoke line > > > 148. > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > That's a very strange and specific error message. Is your systemctl > > command missing, or has incorrect permissions or someth

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 12 Oct 2024 11:42 +0200, from s...@jdcassidy.eu (John Cassidy): > trying to install Redis on Debian SID, the install is failing with the > following errors: > > apt install redis /snip/ > Setting up redis-server (5:7.0.15-2) ... > Created symlink '/etc/systemd/system/r

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Cassidy wrote: > > Could not execute systemctl: at /usr/bin/deb-systemd-invoke line 148. Greg Wooledge wrote: > That's a very strange and specific error message. Is your systemctl > command missing, or has incorrect permissions or something? I rather guess that it is due to the perl t

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 11:42:22 +0200, John Cassidy wrote: > Setting up redis-server (5:7.0.15-2) ... > Created symlink '/etc/systemd/system/redis.service' → > '/usr/lib/systemd/system/redis-server.service'. > Created symlink > '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/redis-server.service' → >

Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread John Cassidy
Hello all, trying to install Redis on Debian SID, the install is failing with the following errors: apt install redis Installing: redis Installing dependencies: libjemalloc2 liblzf1 redis-server redis-tools Suggested packages: ruby-redis Summary: Upgrading: 0, Installing: 5, Re

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 08:38:20AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > cross-graded to amd64 only as far as running the amd64 kernel while > > leaving all of the user land and the primary dpkg architecture as > > i386. This is a supported configuration. > > It's not just "supported": it's ba

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> cross-graded to amd64 only as far as running the amd64 kernel while > leaving all of the user land and the primary dpkg architecture as > i386. This is a supported configuration. It's not just "supported": it's basically the recommended setup for an i386 install, since the support for the i386

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. > /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. Which bus width do you want to know? Address, data, pci, agp, something else? Jeff

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