Am 2007-05-18 17:08:42, schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez:
> Really? Would that be why France, Russia and Germany all agreed that
> Saddam had WMDs? I mean is it different because they agreed when
> Clinton president?
I am officier of the french Army and I had not agreed, (I know the truth
since I was
Am 2007-05-19 18:29:53, schrieb Joe Hart:
> You're really showing your colors by that statement. Yes, we already
> know that you are quite ant-American, but to actually hope for a nuclear
> attack? Be real. How can you claim to be so against war by wishing
> something like that occurring?
But y
Am 2007-05-18 12:46:55, schrieb Greg Folkert:
Nice drive-by mailing, you have a knack to pull the hair up on people's
> necks. In regards to the nukes self-destructing...
:-)
> The Silos that hold 95% of these long range missiles are "first, second,
> third and fourth strike" impenetrable. Have
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:53:25PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 20:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 04:25:26PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
> > >
Before everybody goes jumping off the deep end, I would like to point
out that Michael is responding to
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 20:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 04:25:26PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
> >
> > Given the current status of gay marriage in the U.S., we plainly do not
> > have an unambiguous right to the pursuit of happiness -- not when the
> > President, playin
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> Am 2007-05-11 10:48:06, schrieb Joe Hart:
>> On the other hand, how can one pro actively stop a band of terrorists?
>
> Interesting...
>
> Where are the terrorists?
> Some of the 23 911-Terrosts are definitivly alive.
>
>
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 02:03:31PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > I pray for a real Nuke-Accident in the USA so they are wake up or fuck
> > them self. I hope someone break into the american Nuklear-Defense-
> > Network and activate some nuks for sel
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 06:00:16PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2007-05-09 11:50:29, schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez:
> > Really? What about the stack of UN resolutions promising military
> > action if Saddam did not comply? Were those illegal too?
>
> Yes, they went illegal, since all sanctio
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> Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> I pray for a real Nuke-Accident in the USA so they are wake up or fuck
>> them self. I hope someone break into the american Nuklear-Defense-
>> Network and activ
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I pray for a real Nuke-Accident in the USA so they are wake up or fuck
> them self. I hope someone break into the american Nuklear-Defense-
> Network and activate some nuks for self-destruction.
Anger I understand but bitterness to the point of wishin
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 12:46 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 18:00 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Am 2007-05-11 10:48:06, schrieb Joe Hart:
> > > What really fears me is that it is just a matter of time before one
> > > group of radicals gets access to WMD and I pray they don'
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 18:00 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2007-05-11 10:48:06, schrieb Joe Hart:
> > What really fears me is that it is just a matter of time before one
> > group of radicals gets access to WMD and I pray they don't send them my way.
>
> Right, - and it is already to late. T
Am 2007-05-12 10:15:38, schrieb Joe Hart:
> I also don't think a suicide bomber blowing up a restaurant in a crowded
> market place is right. I can understand that the Palestinians can only
> mount so much of an attack, but attacking innocent citizens is not any
> way to gain sympathy for their ca
Am 2007-05-11 10:48:06, schrieb Joe Hart:
> On the other hand, how can one pro actively stop a band of terrorists?
Interesting...
Where are the terrorists?
Some of the 23 911-Terrosts are definitivly alive.
If they are alive, then they have nothing to do with 911 and now what?
You consider the
Am 2007-05-09 11:50:29, schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez:
> Really? What about the stack of UN resolutions promising military
> action if Saddam did not comply? Were those illegal too?
Yes, they went illegal, since all sanctions are based on "enquetes"
of the CIA, MI6 and MOSSAD. They told the world
Am 2007-05-08 23:39:06, schrieb Joe Hart:
> Celejar wrote:
> > Do you really think that
> > a) that's why so many people think poorly of the US government?
>
> That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is another.
>
> > b) other governments have much less burdensome, anti-
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 09:13:18PM -0400, Andrew J. Barr wrote:
>
> > A few points:
> >
> > - There is no *scripture* that can be used in support of preventing
> >interracial marriage. The words of the judge that you quoted are
> >certainly *not* the words of God.
>
> So the Bible is t
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On 05/17/07 18:25, Michael M. wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 22:04 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. Everyone has a right (at least in
>> the US) to the "pursuit of happiness."
>
>
> Not really. The phrase co
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:21:53 -0400
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 04:25:26PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
> >
> > Given the current status of gay marr
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 04:25:26PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
>
> Given the current status of gay marriage in the U.S., we plainly do not
> have an unambiguous right to the pursuit of happiness -- not when the
> President, playing to the typically bigoted and intolerant Christian
> base of the Repub
Michael M. wrote:
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 22:04 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. Everyone has a right (at least in
the US) to the "pursuit of happiness."
Not really. The phrase comes from the Declaration of Independence, not
the Constitution. There's no
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 22:04 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> >
> I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. Everyone has a right (at least in
> the US) to the "pursuit of happiness."
Not really. The phrase comes from the Declaration of Independence, not
the Constitution. There's no explicit right
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 05:42:19PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Something wrong there. The welfare benefit should be less than the
> minimum hourly wage. Can't blame anyone there, hell would you choose to
> not work for more money or working for less? Are you sure you have that
> right?
AFAIU
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> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:42:26PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
>> There are also problems here:
>
> Netherlands?
>
>> There are too many political parties, so in order to have a working
>> government, coalitions must be formed, an
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:12:49PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Michael Marsh wrote:
> > A 30 day moratorium on re-sale doesn't hurt the store that much, the
> > seller still gets paid, and if the discs were stolen, the victim has
> > some chance of recovery. That does not, of course, justi
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:42:26PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> There are also problems here:
Netherlands?
> There are too many political parties, so in order to have a working
> government, coalitions must be formed, and in the process of forming the
> coalitions, parties quite frequently must aband
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> Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar
>
> You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a
> little old and tired of the off topic posts. So here is my
> question.
>
> How do I blacklist a individual user on this mailing list.
>
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On 05/14/07 19:41, Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2007 19:14:22 -0500
> John Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar
>>
>> You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a
>> little old and tired of the off topic
On Mon, 14 May 2007 19:14:22 -0500
John Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar
>
> You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a
> little old and tired of the off topic posts. So here is my
> question.
>
> How do I blacklist a individual user on this mailin
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 08:24:29PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 07:14:22PM -0500, John Burnett wrote:
> > Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar
> >
> > You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a
> > little old and tired of the off topic posts. So here is my
> >
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 07:14:22PM -0500, John Burnett wrote:
> Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar
>
> You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a
> little old and tired of the off topic posts. So here is my
> question.
>
> How do I blacklist a individual user on this mailing list.
> I wo
Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar
You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a
little old and tired of the off topic posts. So here is my
question.
How do I blacklist a individual user on this mailing list.
I would like to do it in ~.spamassassin in the user_prefs file.
I have tried black
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:12:27AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
>
> Well, I can tell you one difference in news coverage. When a person is
> accused of a crime (but before they are tried), the American system uses
> the presumption of innocence, but the media print the name (and
> sometimes photos) of
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>> The point is in the pressure applied by lobbyists is well received in
>> the American system. SIG's are quite alive and active. The same is
>> true in other countries, but overall the Netherlands is much less
>> influenced by
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Yes, I consider the USA my country too. I have dual nationality, so I
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:46:33PM -0400, Brendan wrote:
> On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote:
> > What I am so against is the fact that the US seems to think it is their
> > right to go to other counties, where they do not have jurisdiction and
> > kidnap people that *may* be terrorists and hol
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> >> What I am so against is the fact that the US seems to think it is their
> >> right to go to other counties, w
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> >> Yes, I consider the USA my country too. I have dual nationality, so I
> >> am American and Dutch. I see the pros and cons of both systems of
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> On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote:
>> What I am so against is the fact that the US seems to think it is their
>> right to go to other counties, where they do not have jurisdiction and
>> kidnap people that *may* be terrorists and h
On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote:
> What I am so against is the fact that the US seems to think it is their
> right to go to other counties, where they do not have jurisdiction and
> kidnap people that *may* be terrorists and hold them for years without
> actually charging them with a crime.
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>> Yes, I consider the USA my country too. I have dual nationality, so I
>> am American and Dutch. I see the pros and cons of both systems of
>> government, and I have no real preference to one over the other. But
>> the media
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:37:57AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
>
> Well, I see that all that it really did (and does, WRT Cuba) is require
> higher tarrifs on their goods, so it results in you, the consumer,
> paying higher prices, but not being legally unable to buy the product.
> But my point remains
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> >> God help those who
> >> help themselves.
> >
> >
> > Sorry, but the wording of that strikes me as very funny.
> > It /shoul
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> >>> Further reading:
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bomb
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So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh
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>> I say Germany is less free than The Netherlands. I can do things like
>> post on the internet how one can download libdvdcss2 so they can play
>> CDs. If I lived in Germany I would be breaki
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Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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>> God help those who
>> help themselves.
>
>
> Sorry, but the wording of that strikes me as very funny. It /should/
> read, "God /helps/ those who help themselves."
>
> Cybe
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>>> Further reading:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki
>> My understanding of the period leads me to believe that
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> >> So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh no,
> >> people will start calling us the commies. ;)
> >>
> >
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> I say Germany is less free than The Netherlands. I can do things like
> post on the internet how one can download libdvdcss2 so they can play
> CDs. If I lived in Germany I would be breaking the law by doing that,
> because
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> > Can I tell offending *truths* or expres offending opinions about
> > others? Can I say "I hate Jews / Arabs / Asians / blacks / homosexuals
> >
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> As to the McCarthyism, I am referring to the sweep of terrorist laws
> that strip away the rights of the individual in view of "the greater
> good". If someone calls you a terrorist, you have little recourse when
> t
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> >> Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>> Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
Joe Hart wrote:
television? Why is CNN International different in the US than it is in
Europe?
This discussion is definitely not my cup of tea, but this statement of
yours caught my eye. CNN is different in different geographical
locations because .. er .. they are different geographical l
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> Joe Hart wrote:
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>> So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh no,
>> people will start calling us the commies. ;)
>>
>
> No, I didn't mean to say that's what it will be called, just that the
> EU has very much m
Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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> God help those who
> help themselves.
Sorry, but the wording of that strikes me as very funny. It /should/
read, "God /helps/ those who help themselves."
Cybe R. Wizard -is it just me?
--
Nice computers don't go down.
Larry Niven, Steve
Joe Hart wrote:
So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh no,
people will start calling us the commies. ;)
No, I didn't mean to say that's what it will be called, just that the
EU has very much more in common with the USSR than with the USA, and
that it could be seen
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> Can I tell offending *truths* or expres offending opinions about
> others? Can I say "I hate Jews / Arabs / Asians / blacks / homosexuals
> and I think that they should be stripped of their civil rights and
> incarcerated"? Agai
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> Why is the RIAA still able to get away with their fear tactics?
>
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> You concede that we are freer WRT guns, but you argue that in a greater
> sense you're freer, since the victims stay alive. But by that sort of
> sophistry, you can call lots of things freedom; the 'McCarthyism' that
> Joe and
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>>> Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Maybe it's true that you thought that, but besides that y
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>> Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >> Maybe it's true that you thought that, but besides that your statement
> >> is plainly wrong. Most Europeans *are* opposed to the
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> >>> Why is the RIAA still able to get away with their fear tactics?
> >>> Because they know who to bribe. Centralized power creates a "target
>
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> > regulation happy than the US?
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> Well, were I live we have more freedom tha
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> > > impossible to bring about democracy, peace and freedom by
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>> The UN. Please read my reply to Roberto. Irrespective of what these or
>> those politicians claim, the text of the Charter of the UN is simple: no
>> wa
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> On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:38:27AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
>> I don't think envy plays much of a part. Perhaps it used to, but thing
>> like Katrina opened up the world's eyes to see how many real Americans
>> live and not just the o
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>> Whose gun control laws are stricter?
>
> Europe's. But despite all the big claims, 'guns to everyone' has nothing
> to do with freedom. It gives the freedom to kill others to people, but
> it
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:40:55AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>
> Also, no Western-German or unified German government after WWII has ever
> carried people to offshore islands, denying any rights for legal counsel
> or legal defence. As said above, government, police, military have less
> p
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> >
> I don't think envy plays much of a part. Perhaps it used to, but thing
> like Katrina opened up the world's eyes to see how many real Americans
> live and not just the ones that the media lets them see. One of the
> things that was
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> [snip]
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>>> The Democrats have held a majority in Congress for 182 days. I st
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> The UN. Please read my reply to Roberto. Irrespective of what these or
> those politicians claim, the text of the Charter of the UN is simple: no
> war or force without explicit endorsement by the security council.
>
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>> Maybe it's true that you thought that, but besides that your statement
>> is plainly wrong. Most Europeans *are* opposed to the US involvement in
>> Iraq, because it is neither right legally nor morally. Their number is
>
> B
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>> Alas, The United States of Europe is on its way. I just hope I am dead
>> before it is formed.
>>
>
> Please don't...
>
> The Union of European Socialist Repub
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Celejar wrote:
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>>> Why is the RIAA still able to get away with their fear tactics?
>>> Because they know who to bribe. Centralized power creates a "target
>>> of opportunity" for corruption. Europe is learning this the hard way
>>> now, too.
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Celejar wrote:
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No wonder so many people are starting to think
poorly of the U.S. government.
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> What I meant is that I think it's obvious that foreign policy (and, I
> suspect, envy) is the real reason, not the type of legislation b
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Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:08:35 +0200
> Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> [snip]
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>> I learned in school politics = power, and power corrupts, so what it
>> boils down, how many politicians are trustworthy? I say very few.
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>
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:18 -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> It doesn't take being an anarchist to know that there isn't any
> difference between "Republican" and "Democrat". It's all just
> carefully crafted false ideologies designed to "divide and conquer".
Well the party in power certainly make
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Alas, The United States of Europe is on its way. I just hope I am dead
before it is formed.
Please don't...
The Union of European Socialist Republics is much nearer the mark. Did
you read the original Constitution?
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To UNSUB
Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The whole mission is a textbook example of how it probably is
> > impossible to bring about democracy, peace and freedom by
> > application of force.
> Impossible? Where were Germany and Japan before and after
On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:25:34 +0200
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> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> >> That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is
On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:08:35 +0200
Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I learned in school politics = power, and power corrupts, so what it
> boils down, how many politicians are trustworthy? I say very few.
GNU / linux and Free Software are powerful; do they corrupt?
> Joe
Celej
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> Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:08:11 +0200
> > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >> Jostein
On Tue, 08 May 2007 22:07:52 +0200
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> Curt Howland wrote:
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> > The Democrats have held a majority in Congress for 182 days. I stopped
> > holding my breath a long time ago.
> >
> > It doesn't take bein
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Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:25:34PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign p
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:25:34PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> >> That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is
> >> another.
> >>
> > See, I thought the main reason that many Eu
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Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
>> That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is another.
>>
> See, I thought the main reason that many Europeans were opposed to US
> involveme
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Lubos Vrbka wrote:
>> Not to mention that the idea is idiotic - punish everyone because some
>> people steal. Sheesh.
> i think this is on par with the fact that we have (here in czech
> republic, i'm not sure about other countries) to pay a fee for ev
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Roberto � wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
>> That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is another.
>>
> See, I thought the main reason that many Europeans were opposed to US
> involvement in Ira
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
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> That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is another.
>
See, I thought the main reason that many Europeans were opposed to US
involvement in Iraq was because they were illegally profiting in Iraq in
violation of
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Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:08:11 +0200
> Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Jostein Elvaker Haande wrote:
>>> I'm left speechless, honestly...
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/new
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On 05/08/07 15:07, Joe Hart wrote:
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> Alas, The United States of Europe is on its way. I just hope I am dead
> before it is formed.
And the USA is becoming more like Europe, in that The People more
and more seem to think that Big Government
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On 05/08/07 15:02, Joe Hart wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/08/07 14:37, Lubos Vrbka wrote:
Not to mention that the idea is idiotic - punish everyone because some
people steal. Sheesh.
>>> i think this is on par with the fact that we hav
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Curt Howland wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
>> ýNo wonder so many people are starting to think
>> poorly of the U.S. government.
>
> Lots of Americans have been warning anyone who will listen about the
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