Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Wed 12 Aug 2020 at 07:34:03 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:26:45PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Registering a domain name with a dynamic DNS service is more complex > > than registering an email service > > It really isn't, but whatever. To register an email servi

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:26:45PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Registering a domain name with a dynamic DNS service is more complex than registering an email service It really isn't, but whatever. I really don't care if you want to come up with some workaround for DNS so feel free to stop argui

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Tue 11 Aug 2020 at 08:10:43 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:18:10PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 04 Aug 2020 at 08:38:37 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 10:52:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > My main router doesn't have the f

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Tue 11 Aug 2020 at 07:39:00 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:18:10PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > $ cat /etc/cron.daily/send-hotmail > > #!/bin/sh > > [ -x /root/.cron/send-hotmail.sh ] || exit 0 > > /root/.cron/send-hotmail.sh > > $ cat /root/.cron/send-hotmail.sh

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:18:10PM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Tue 04 Aug 2020 at 08:38:37 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 10:52:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > My main router doesn't have the facility to run that client. My > cascaded router does (to just those two ser

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:18:10PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > $ cat /etc/cron.daily/send-hotmail > #!/bin/sh > [ -x /root/.cron/send-hotmail.sh ] || exit 0 > /root/.cron/send-hotmail.sh > $ cat /root/.cron/send-hotmail.sh > #!/bin/sh > mailx -s 'ZZZ---ZZZ' myfreeacco...@hotmail.co.uk < /etc/mai

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Tue 04 Aug 2020 at 08:38:37 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 10:52:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > My main router doesn't have the facility to run that client. My > > cascaded router does (to just those two services), but that one > > has a broken WAN port (hence its r

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

This may be of interest to the OP: https://github.com/noffle/airpipe -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : proud Debian developer `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems stupidity management for the superuser

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Ma, 04 aug 20, 15:36:07, Gene Heskett wrote: > > this is a shell on its own workspace, all of which belongs to me. I've > found I can set the $PATH, then export it, and it works for that shell > only. I want it applied to every shell open in my username. This doesn't appear to be related to

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Tuesday 04 August 2020 12:43:58 Curt wrote: > On 2020-08-01, riveravaldez wrote: > > Is this possible? > > > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > > server (free or paid), just with software run

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 21:05:57 -0500 David Wright wrote: > How do you keep this set of dynamic DNS providers informed each time > your home's IP address changes, bearing in mind nobody's at home? I do that with ddclient. Run: apt show ddclient You may want to ensure that ddclient supports the ddn

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On 2020-08-01, riveravaldez wrote: > Is this possible? > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. If the client machine (the one from

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Vi, 31 iul 20, 23:03:07, riveravaldez wrote: > Is this possible? > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. If both ends are more o

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Ma, 04 aug 20, 15:57:43, MAS Jean-Louis wrote: > Le 01/08/2020 à 04:03, riveravaldez a écrit : > > Is this possible? > > > If there's any other simpler way (that doesn't imply the use of any > > third party) please let me know, I could use anything that works. > > IPv4 address are becoming rar

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 03:57:43PM +0200, MAS Jean-Louis wrote: IPv4 address are becoming rare, and expensive for ISP. IPv6 is free, and plenty Maybe where you are, definitely not where I am. just ask for a public IPv6 address My ISP is 10 years into a 2 year plan to make them available. P

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:52:58 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Aug 2020 at 22:15:25 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > How do you keep this set of dynamic DNS providers informed each time > > > your home's IP address changes, bearing in mind nobody's at home? > > > > It's called a "dynamic

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Le 01/08/2020 à 04:03, riveravaldez a écrit : > Is this possible? > If there's any other simpler way (that doesn't imply the use of any > third party) please let me know, I could use anything that works. IPv4 address are becoming rare, and expensive for ISP. IPv6 is free, and plenty just ask for

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:49:10 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > Some of you are assuming that the local router offers an API whereby > clients inside the LAN can determine what the local router's external > IP address is, without going outside the LAN. That may or may not be > a thing. I have no idea.

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 10:52:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: My main router doesn't have the facility to run that client. My cascaded router does (to just those two services), but that one has a broken WAN port (hence its rôle). So I presume I'd be expected to run No-IP's own software on my home

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 09:05:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: How do you keep this set of dynamic DNS providers informed each time your home's IP address changes, bearing in mind nobody's at home? A program runs on the local machine which updates the dynamic DNS entries, either periodically or

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 02:38:13PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 15:18:46 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 02:15:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > The home PC that I'd be trying to contact has a 192.168.n.n IP > > > address given to it by my prima

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On 2020-08-03 16:52, Nate Bargmann wrote: Let's say machine 1 always gets 192.168.1.1 and machine 2 gets 192.168.1.2 from the router's DHCP server. To SSH into each from the public Internet set up port forwarding on the router. OpenWRT also allows port translation and some off the shelf routers

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon 03 Aug 2020 at 22:15:25 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > How do you keep this set of dynamic DNS providers informed each time > > your home's IP address changes, bearing in mind nobody's at home? > > It's called a "dynamic DNS (DDNS) client" and runs on your router (it sends > the new IP

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

> Incoming port Machine Port > 10022 192.168.1.1 22 > 20022 192.168.1.2 22 I personally like using port 22nnn for the SSH port of host 192.168.1.nnn ;-)

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

> How do you keep this set of dynamic DNS providers informed each time > your home's IP address changes, bearing in mind nobody's at home? It's called a "dynamic DNS (DDNS) client" and runs on your router (it sends the new IP to the DDNS server whenever your router gets one). Most home routers co

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon 03 Aug 2020 at 21:38:55 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 02:38:13PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > Ah, now you are back to using an external server, which the OP would > > like to avoid. > > It isn't possible to do this without an external server. Sending email > in

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 02:38:13PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: Ah, now you are back to using an external server, which the OP would like to avoid. It isn't possible to do this without an external server. Sending email involves an external server. That's why just using a redundant set of dyna

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon 03 Aug 2020 at 18:52:24 (-0500), Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2020 03 Aug 14:16 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > The home PC that I'd be trying to contact has a 192.168.n.n IP address > > given to it by my primary router. But the router's external address is > > obtained by its DHCP client talk

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon 03 Aug 2020 at 17:24:33 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, August 03, 2020 04:38:13 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 15:18:46 -0400 > > > In a case like that, just contact an external web site that tells you > > > what your externally visible IP address is. There

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

* On 2020 03 Aug 14:16 -0500, David Wright wrote: > The home PC that I'd be trying to contact has a 192.168.n.n IP address > given to it by my primary router. But the router's external address is > obtained by its DHCP client talking to my ISP's DHCP server. It's not > obvious to me how to query th

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Monday, August 03, 2020 04:38:13 PM Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 15:18:46 -0400 > > In a case like that, just contact an external web site that tells you > > what your externally visible IP address is. There are many of them. > > Mine is . > > Ah, no

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 15:18:46 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 02:15:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > The home PC that I'd be trying to contact has a 192.168.n.n IP > > address given to it by my primary router. But the router's external > > address is obtained by its DHCP cli

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 02:15:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > The home PC that I'd be trying to contact has a 192.168.n.n IP address > given to it by my primary router. But the router's external address is > obtained by its DHCP client talking to my ISP's DHCP server. In a case like that, just c

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Mon 03 Aug 2020 at 07:51:20 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 10:52:51PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > This should be possible for free, so long as you can send emails from > > home. Just register an account with, say, hotmail, and send an email > > each day (or at an appr

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 10:52:51PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > This should be possible for free, so long as you can send emails from > home. Just register an account with, say, hotmail, and send an email > each day (or at an appropriate interval) from your home's computer. Just send your message

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Regarding the following, written by "riveravaldez" on 2020-08-01 at 23:37 Uhr -0300: Any comment/advice on any of them?, would be most appreciated. All 3 seem to be using TUN, which is what you want at this stage. Now you just have to try which one works best for you. I'd also take into acco

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sunday 02 August 2020 16:05:07 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 02 Aug 2020 at 01:00:08 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 01 August 2020 23:52:51 David Wright wrote: > > > Currently, my IP address has been stable since I switched on the > > > modem (which runs 24/7) after my Christmas br

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sun 02 Aug 2020 at 01:00:08 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 01 August 2020 23:52:51 David Wright wrote: > > Currently, my IP address has been stable since I switched on the modem > > (which runs 24/7) after my Christmas break. > > My address for the link in my sig below isn't fixed,

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Saturday 01 August 2020 23:52:51 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 01 Aug 2020 at 14:02:59 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > > riveravaldez wrote: > > > Until now I've found a couple of alternatives using the > > > tox-DHT-decentralized idea: > > > > believe me you do not want to publish your IPs on DHT li

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sat 01 Aug 2020 at 14:02:59 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > riveravaldez wrote: > > > Until now I've found a couple of alternatives using the > > tox-DHT-decentralized idea: > > believe me you do not want to publish your IPs on DHT like ToX - it causes > only troubles. You never know who is collect

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On 8/1/20, martin f krafft wrote: > Regarding the following, written by "to...@tuxteam.de" on 2020-08-01 at > 09:39 Uhr +0200: >>Hm. For Tox I can't say very much (besides that they do have a Client >>and a Core components, which seems to suggest that you need some >>well-known instance out there

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On 2020-08-01 16:06, Michael Stone wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 03:28:47PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: In my area (Tracy, California), people who have have Internet connections with static IP's know it and pay handsomly for such.  All other connections are dynamic.  Even so, some provider

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

> If there's any other simpler way (that doesn't imply the use of any > third party) please let me know, I could use anything that works. Or you can check the remote address by email (cron job) ;;; Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Regarding the following, written by "to...@tuxteam.de" on 2020-08-01 at 14:33 Uhr +0200: Both Tox and Jami use a technology called distributed hash tables to map names to numbers, and the technology would be suitable for the OP's needs, but I don't know of any implementation for SSH. DHTs are

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 03:28:47PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: In my area (Tracy, California), people who have have Internet connections with static IP's know it and pay handsomly for such. All other connections are dynamic. Even so, some providers apparently do not change the dynamic add

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On 2020-08-01 04:52, deloptes wrote: David Christensen wrote: I have residential VDSL service from AT&T.  Fortunately, AT&T does not block port 22, AT&T assigned an IPv4 address for my WAN connection, and the address has never changed. The OP is asking about dynamic IP, no? In my area (Trac

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020, riveravaldez wrote: > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. I am not sure if you'd consider a DDNS (dynamic DNS)

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

* On 2020 31 Jul 21:04 -0500, riveravaldez wrote: > Is this possible? > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. Easy enough with SSH

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 17:23:06 +0200 "0...@caiway.net" <0...@caiway.net> wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 23:03:07 -0300 > riveravaldez wrote: > > > Is this possible? > > > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Aug 01, 2020, deloptes wrote: > David Christensen wrote: > > > I have residential VDSL service from AT&T.  Fortunately, AT&T does not > > block port 22, AT&T assigned an IPv4 address for my WAN connection, and > > the address has never changed. > > The OP is asking about dynamic IP, no? Techn

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 23:03:07 -0300 riveravaldez wrote: > Is this possible? > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. > You could d

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Saturday, August 01, 2020 08:02:59 AM deloptes wrote: > riveravaldez wrote: > > Until now I've found a couple of alternatives using the > > > tox-DHT-decentralized idea: > believe me you do not want to publish your IPs on DHT like ToX - it causes > only troubles. You never know who is collectin

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:03:07PM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. It's not possible. The simplest sol

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Oops -- ignore my answer, I apparently misunderstood the question. On Saturday, August 01, 2020 07:16:31 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, July 31, 2020 10:03:07 PM riveravaldez wrote: > > Is this possible? > > > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > > (dyna

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 03:34:27PM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:03:07PM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > > If there's any other simpler way (that doesn't imply the use of any > > third party) please let me know, I could use anything that works. > > Install tor and ncat on both hosts

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Hi. On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:03:07PM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > If there's any other simpler way (that doesn't imply the use of any > third party) please let me know, I could use anything that works. Install tor and ncat on both hosts, enable ssh hidden service on at least one of them

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 10:18:00PM +1200, martin f krafft wrote: > Regarding the following, written by "to...@tuxteam.de" on 2020-08-01 at 09:39 > Uhr +0200: > >Hm. For Tox I can't say very much (besides that they do have a > >Client and a Core components, which seems to suggest that you need > >s

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On 2020-08-01 13:02, deloptes wrote: If I were you I would pay for a domain and put a script that would write the IP somewhere there, so that you can find it.

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 12:03, riveravaldez wrote: > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. > > Tox and Jami protocols seem to be able t

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

riveravaldez wrote: > Until now I've found a couple of alternatives using the > tox-DHT-decentralized idea: believe me you do not want to publish your IPs on DHT like ToX - it causes only troubles. You never know who is collecting those IPs and for what reason. I always see SSH attacks on the fir

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

David Christensen wrote: > I have residential VDSL service from AT&T.  Fortunately, AT&T does not > block port 22, AT&T assigned an IPv4 address for my WAN connection, and > the address has never changed. The OP is asking about dynamic IP, no?

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Friday, July 31, 2020 10:03:07 PM riveravaldez wrote: > Is this possible? > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. That is pretty

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riveravaldez wrote: > Is this possible? > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. If just one of your machines has a static IP addre

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Regarding the following, written by "to...@tuxteam.de" on 2020-08-01 at 09:39 Uhr +0200: Hm. For Tox I can't say very much (besides that they do have a Client and a Core components, which seems to suggest that you need some well-known instance out there where the cliens do a rendez-vous. Jami

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Hi, Joe wrote: > > Better still is, as David suggested, get a fixed IP address for your > > home connection, but many ISPs do not offer this option, even for > > 'business' accounts. About 20 years ago i solved the problem by letting the modem start script send a mail to my peer which told him th

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Hi, thanks a lot for the answers. > I have residential VDSL service from AT&T. Fortunately, AT&T does not block > port 22, AT&T assigned an IPv4 address for my WAN connection, and the address > has never changed. So, added an entry to the /etc/hosts file on my laptop, > configured the residen

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 23:03:07 -0300 riveravaldez wrote: > Is this possible? > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. > > Tox and Ja

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:03:07PM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > Is this possible? > > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. That soun

Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

On 2020-07-31 19:03, riveravaldez wrote: Is this possible? Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. Tox and Jami protocols seem to be able

[OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Is this possible? Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines. Tox and Jami protocols seem to be able to stablish a quick p2p connection in a de