Hi,
We already have a guru list. It is called debian-devel. And we
already have issues that migrate between the lists as
appropriate. Unfortunately, that does not cut down on the volume of
debian-user.
manoj
>>"John" == John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> 'Normal'
Hi,
High volume lists do not have to have you missing important
mail; Debian comes with procmail and mailagent, which should help ou
priotize your mail reading.
manoj
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Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EM
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote:
>
> > A better approach could be to do a functional split, such as a
> > debian-X11, debian-config or debian-dist. This would reduce volume on
> > the main list without having people crossposting all over the place to
> > be sure to get an answer.
> >
>
> What are the security implications of a default installation of dwww? My
> understanding is that an http daemon must be active to use dwww. Is this
> correct? I have yet to set up my own http servers on Linux boxes because
> I am not confident in my understanding of the security issues.
>
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > [...] create a default fvwm popup menu when you click on the root
> > window. The first item in that window is "Help on Linux". Selecting that
> > gives the next layer popup that includes links to such things a
Hi,
As J.H.M.Dassen, and W Paul Mills kindly pointed out to me, "^TO" in
.procmailrc matches the beginning of most lines with recieving addresses.
I will have to learn to read the mail carefully ... I missed it was
capital letters in TO ... and I also have to check things up in the
man-pages bef
Bruce Perens:
> Our "menu" package already adds menus to _many_ different window managers,
> and to character-oriented shells as well. Our "dwww" package need only
> register a menu entry "Help with Linux", and it would appear. The biggest
> missing piece right now is that "menu" and "dwww" are not
Stephane Bortzmeyer writes:
>
>
> This list has a terribly high volume. More than half of the messages are
> non-Debian related (like Ethernet 3com problems) and should, IMHO, belong
I've read a number of replies to this message. While I agree that high volume
is
> A better approach could be to do a functional split, such as a
> debian-X11, debian-config or debian-dist. This would reduce volume on
> the main list without having people crossposting all over the place to
> be sure to get an answer.
>
Either that or start a newsgroup heirarchy. debian.
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Fredrik Ax wrote:
>
> On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Max Stevens wrote:
>
> > :0:
> > * ^TOdebian-user
^^^See this.
> > debian-user
> >
>
> If match "* ^To.*debian-user" you will miss all CC:ed and BCC:ed mail to
> the list. You will also miss all mail that have named the lis
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Our "menu" package already adds menus to _many_ different window managers,
> and to character-oriented shells as well. Our "dwww" package need only
> register a menu entry "Help with Linux", and it would appear. The biggest
> missing piece right now is th
On Jun 10, Fredrik Ax wrote
> On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Max Stevens wrote:
> > :0:
> > * ^TOdebian-user
^^^
> > debian-user
>
> If match "* ^To.*debian-user" you will miss all CC:ed and BCC:ed mail to
^^^
^TO != ^To. TO also catches Cc and Bcc. See procmailrc(5):
| If the regular ex
On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Max Stevens wrote:
> :0:
> * ^TOdebian-user
> debian-user
>
If match "* ^To.*debian-user" you will miss all CC:ed and BCC:ed mail to
the list. You will also miss all mail that have named the list e.g.
"Debian Mailinglist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
One solution would be to match "
> "Max" == Max Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Max> Although the creation of a 'Debian-guru' list would have the same
Max> effect as creating a 'Debian-newbie' list. Everybody would ask
Max> their questions on the guru list ...
A better approach could be to do a functional split, such as
> "Fredrik" == Fredrik Ax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Fredrik> On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, DANIEL STRINGFIELD wrote:
>> I'm not personally thrilled with the high volume, but I wouldn't
Fredrik> I couldn't agree more to this. After all this is a
Fredrik> debian-USER list.
Me too.
One should not for
From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [...] create a default fvwm popup menu when you click on the root
> window. The first item in that window is "Help on Linux". Selecting that
> gives the next layer popup that includes links to such things as the woven
> docs (FAQ's, HOWTO's, etc in HTML) a
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:
> OK, how's this then:
>
> 'Normal' users (like myself) post to the 'user' list.
>
> Access to the guru list is restricted to Maintainers, Administrators
> of reasonable sized installations etc.
But that would recreate the debian-devel list wouldn't it?
debian-user is for users, all users, and I think it should stay that
way. Yes the volume is high, but there's something to be said for
keeping everyone on equal footing.
I don't read debian-user every day, but most days. I try to get to it
fairly regularly and answer questions when I can. If y
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:
> > Midnight Commander (mc) could fill this role. As it happens the current
> > version is broken to the extent that it does not know how to access .deb
> > files. There is a bug report on this which is a month old but mc is still
> > useful as it can hand
> I've been thinking about the entire newbie/documentation thing a lot
> lately. There has to be a way for newbies to get into the
> /usr/doc/*/*gz files before they know about gzip, zcat and zless. And
> there has to be a way of saying RTFM without being rude.
I think it's more than simply sa
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:
> If there is to be a new list, then perhaps a "Debian-Guru" list would
> be more appropriate.
I'd like to see debian-guru: the newbies won't be afraid that they are
joining a list with no help (everyone is already on user), and the guru's
get their low volu
> I also find the idea of forcing the newbie into a particular X/Window
> Manager configuration somewhat disturbing. One of the many reasons I
> like Debian is that my PC looks like _my_ PC.
>
> So far I like the mc approach best.
>
> John Foster
>
>
>
1) If we settled on some kind of a defa
On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote:
> I have a system here with Caldera Open Linux Standard and one thing that
> they did was create a default fvwm popup menu when you click on the root
> window. The first item in that window is "Help on Linux". Selecting that
> gives the next layer popup th
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > I've been thinking about the entire newbie/documentation thing a lot
> > lately. There has to be a way for newbies to get into the
> > /usr/doc/*/*gz files before they know about gzip, zcat and zles
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > I've been thinking about the entire newbie/documentation thing a lot
> > lately. There has to be a way for newbies to get into the
> > /usr/doc/*/*gz files before they know about gzip, zcat and zle
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:
[snip]
> I've been thinking about the entire newbie/documentation thing a lot
> lately. There has to be a way for newbies to get into the
> /usr/doc/*/*gz files before they know about gzip, zcat and zless. And
> there has to be a way of saying RTFM without b
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:
> And there has to be a way of saying RTFM without being rude.
There is. Give a brief answer to the question and follow with something
like "for more details, see 'man foo' and the documentation in
/usr/doc/foo"
the brief answer can be useful in itself or
> Although the creation of a 'Debian-guru' list would have the same
> effect as creating a 'Debian-newbie' list. Everybody would ask their
> questions on the guru list since
> a. All the gurus would be reading it (obviously)
> b. None of the gurus would bother reading the regular lis
Ed Down wrote:
> What _I_ would like is a nice concise posting regarding setting up a mail
> filter for pine and other mail progs, posted regularly, so that instead of
> saying 'I will unsubscribe' and losing possibly important members of the
> list, people say 'That mail filter sounds easy to s
ing the regular list
anymore (or at least not in any detail)
c. Everybody thinks their question is really difficult and needs
a guru to answer it.
M
On Jun 10, 7:38am, John Foster wrote:
} Subject: Re: [META] Use of the list for non-Debian matters
| On Mon, 9 Jun 1997,
On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:
>If it's decided to tighten things up, the powers that be should give
> thought to a Debian-specific newbie list if this list isn't going to
> support that function.
Hmmm...
The problem would be that the list would be used by people of limited
help to
:0:
* ^TO.*maxmax
ibm_junk
:0:
* ^TOdebian-user
debian-user
:0:
* ^From.*jomsteve
from_me
But of course, now I'm not talking about debian specific stuff
anymore.
M
On Jun 9, 10:46am, Brian K Servis wrote:
} Subject: Re: [META] Use of the list for non-Debian matters
| Ed Down writes:
| >
Ed Down writes:
>
>What _I_ would like is a nice concise posting regarding setting up a mail
>filter for pine and other mail progs, posted regularly, so that instead of
>saying 'I will unsubscribe' and losing possibly important members of the
>list, people say 'That mail filter sounds easy to set u
On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, DANIEL STRINGFIELD wrote:
> I'm not personally thrilled with the high volume, but I wouldn't wan't to
> make things not specific to debian (other than things like how to on
> Redhat or something) to stop being supported. I think the list serves
> well as a LINUX mailing list,
On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, DANIEL STRINGFIELD wrote:
>
> I'm not personally thrilled with the high volume, but I wouldn't wan't to
> make things not specific to debian (other than things like how to on
> Redhat or something) to stop being supported. I think the list serves
> well as a LINUX mailing list
On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> This list has a terribly high volume. More than half of the messages are
> non-Debian related (like Ethernet 3com problems) and should, IMHO, belong
> to other forums.
>
> Am I the only one which finds the amount of general PC/Linux/Unix
> questio
> >Am I the only one which finds the amount of general PC/Linux/Unix
> >questions unbearable (in that case, I will unsubscribe) or is it time to
> >plea for more discipline, such as "Please use only this list for
> >Debian-specific stuff (like dpkg, dselect, discussions of the upgrade
> >path
At 02:07 PM 6/9/97 +0200, you wrote:
>
>This list has a terribly high volume. More than half of the messages are
>non-Debian related (like Ethernet 3com problems) and should, IMHO, belong
>to other forums.
>
>Am I the only one which finds the amount of general PC/Li
If you want to unsubscribe be my guest.
Paul
On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>
> This list has a terribly high volume. More than half of the messages are
> non-Debian related (like Ethernet 3com problems) and should, IMHO, belong
> to other forums.
This list has a terribly high volume. More than half of the messages are
non-Debian related (like Ethernet 3com problems) and should, IMHO, belong
to other forums.
Am I the only one which finds the amount of general PC/Linux/Unix
questions unbearable (in that ca
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