On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 2:54 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 05:45:26PM +0100, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> You state that it's no longer udev that renames NICs. The following's
>> from a sid VM using svsinit+sysvrc.
> [...]
>> udev is renaming &q
Hello,
Recently I have installed stable on a few old optiplex workstations that
have an AMD graphics card. On first boot I always get a black screen and
have to:
1. Enable non-free
2. Install firmware-linux-nonfree. Even though the netinstall media is
firmware-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso
So I've got a test box that I have sid installed on and the following in my
/etc/apt/preferences
Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 1000
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 100
I also have these two packages installed:
sapt-listbugs apt-listchanges
I went to install li
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> Have you looked at the logs? Especially Xorg.0.log and x
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> Are you using a DM?
>
> A what? Xubuntu uses xfce4 if that answers the question.
DM = display manager
On Ubuntu, lightdm is the default DM.
>> Are you usin
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>
> I have a tar backup of the entire system, excluding /sys, /proc and /dev.
> I have a tar backup of a bind-mount of /dev.
> These were taken while the system was running, but quiet. I did it this
> way because I cannot get the system to bo
On 28 Sep 2014 04:35:03 +0200, lee wrote:
>
> Anyway, it gives me to think that such a misunderstanding has come
> up to begin with and that it hasn't been fixed long ago. Someone who
> doesn't understand what "disabled" means is programming an init
> system: What other misunderstandings might hav
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/choose-your-side-the-linux-divide-248950?source=IFWNLE_nlt_daily_pm_2014-08-25
There's a OT list for this BS.
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Snow Leopard
wrote:
>
> I stumbled on a problem with Ubuntu installation PXE/netboot/preseed.
>
> OS: Ubuntu 12.04LTS/14.04LTS
>
> I have setup for DHCP/TFTP/NFS which allows me to boot over network "Live
> Ubuntu" and everything works as it should.
>
> Next logica
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:44:26 -0400 (EDT), David Baron wrote:
>> On Sunday 24 August 2014 11:45:40 Stephen Powell wrote:
> I have a static route command in my /etc/rc.local file to define
> a route to another network. I won't go into the re
Resending to the list
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 24/08/2014 19:31, Tom H a écrit :
>>
>> With v208, there's a generator,
>> "/lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-rc-local-generator", that
>> creates a symlink a
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
>
> I just thought I'd pass along something that I recently discovered.
> When using sysvinit as the init system, if the file /etc/rc.local
> exists and is executable, it will be invoked at the tail end of the
> boot process. But under system
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Alexandre Ferrieux
wrote:
> On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:00:02 PM UTC+2, Brian wrote:
>> On Fri 22 Aug 2014 at 17:20:03 -0700, Alexandre Ferrieux wrote:
>>> I have a Jessie-based system, which up to the last upgrade used
>>> sysvinit of course, and where I had
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Tom H wrote:
>
> Edit build/DEBIAN/control and bump up "Version: " (or create
> a "Version" line of it doesn't exist because dpkg-deb needs it but
> dpkg-buildpackage doesn't so it might not be there).
I felt that this
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Hans wrote:
>
> just another thing relating to this. I would like to repack the debian package
> and would like to change these in the package:
>
> - changelog
> - skype binary
>
> I tried dpkg-deb -x and also with -e, but I guess, this is wrong, as it did
> not wo
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:25 PM, antispammbox-debian
wrote:
>
> How to compile busybox in static mode, adding some utility different from
> the usual, -dd, cat, other,... -, example, partimage, with all the
> dependencies, compress it, and install on a usb stick?
You can get the Debian source, m
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 01.08.2014 10:45, schrieb Tom H:
>
>> Either "/etc/modprobe.d/.conf" or in "/etc/modules" if the
>> former isn't early enough.
>
> You are mixing two things up here:
>
> /etc/modp
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Francesco Ariis wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 02:24:53PM +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote:
>>
>> Jessie (last testing version) does not want to install in a VM. It just
>> get stucked
>
> If it regards Jessie, probably debian-testing [1] is a better place where
> to
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:35:11AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> "Stop" in "stop job" isn't an adjective, it's a noun (or an
>> attributive noun) just like "office" in "o
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Paul E Condon
wrote:
>
> In my view SQL is a query language that can do much more than look up
> records in a single table. To claim that some init system is superior
> to some other init system because it has 'SQL logging' is, as Andrew
> said, silly. Almost none
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
>>>
>>> To add to my earlier report:
>>> I managed to remove graphviz and its associated
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
>
> To add to my earlier report:
>
> I managed to remove graphviz and its associated libraries.
>
> So that now aptitude dist-upgrade gives me only 1 'issue' :
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> systemd-sysv : Conflicts: sysvin
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon
wrote:
>
> In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective
> modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a
> noun phrase expressing a type of job, and must be some kind of geeky
> usage. OTOH, the noun phrase 'stopp
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Charles Kroeger
wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:50:02 +0200
> Tom H wrote:
>
>> Debian isn't as special as you think, at least not from this perspective.
>
> Everybody earns money and needs money in this development. Organizations l
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Paul E Condon
wrote:
>
> I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
> use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
> bug in the script that fails to evaluate the variable USER and
> therefore fails to print the name
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>
> Debian sid
>
> systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
>
> XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
> for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
>
> The last message is:
> "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me"
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:53:51 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>>
>> And you've proven my point...
>
> Agreed, I just can't see why there is any controversy.
You misunderstand. The fact that you can't accept that t
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Charles Kroeger
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:50:01 +0200
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>
>> I had understood that Debian is in this, as in many things, different from
>> most Linux distros.
>
> Yes you're right, that's what makes Debian special, passion always trumps
>
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:07:01 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy
>> wrote:
>>> 2014-08-10 11:33 keltezéssel, Pascal Hambourg írta:
>>>>
>>>> sysctl -w n
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:
> 2014-08-10 11:33 keltezéssel, Pascal Hambourg írta:
>>
>> Nemeth Gyorgy's ruleset is too complicated. Use the bare minimum :
>>
>> sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
>> iptables -t nat -P ACCEPT
>> iptables -t filter -P ACCEPT
>
> This is really
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Erwan David wrote:
>
> PS: and I am still waiting for the replacement of policy-rc.d
We know; you've complained here more than once.
Have you filed a bug report?
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On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:26 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/10/2014 10:15 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer
>> wrote:
>>> On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> halt/poweroff/reboot have called shutdown at
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, The Wanderer
>> wrote:
>>> On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If halt or reboot is called wh
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
>>
>> Charlie: According to the man pages all 3, halt, poweroff and reboot,
>> use the shutdown command to perform the necessary steps when not
>> starting in runlevel 0 or 6, which is pretty much a
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George Shuklin
> wrote:
>> On 08/09/2014 07:16 PM, Tom H wrote:
>>>
>>> From the man page:
>>>
>>> --increment, -i
>>> Increment either the final com
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:36 AM, David Baron wrote:
>
> With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to
> rapidly to read.
>
> Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to lilo. Now
> have all that text back. Is there an append= or lilo.conf en
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Tom H wrote:
>> Bob Proulx wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe the point was that it should be "make before break". They
>>> should have allowed people to use systemd without preventing people
>>> f
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:47 PM, AW wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were:
>>
>> 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program.
>>
>> 2) To get rid of gratuitous boot gunge (in t
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> And what is that "google-chrome-unstable deb"? Does that have a version
> number?
$ apt-cache show google-chrome-unstable | grep Ver
Version: 38.0.2114.2-1
$ apt-cache show google-chrome-beta | grep Ver
Version: 37.0.2062.68-1
$ apt-cache
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Martin T wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Martin T wrote:
>>>
>>> I moved the script from /etc/init.d to /etc/network directory and
>>> changed the shebang line from
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George Shuklin wrote:
> On 08/09/2014 07:16 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM, George Shuklin
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file.
>>>
>>> When I
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM, George Shuklin
wrote:
>
> dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file.
>
> When I add new version I make this:
>
> package (1.0.2-1myname1-ubuntu0) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium
>
> *
> -- signature and date
>
> package (1.0.2-1myname1) unstable;
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Joel Rees wrote:
>>>
>>> This is precisely why systemd should have been brought up to speed in
>>> a separate, parallel, volunteer-only distro.
>>>
>>> (If you don't understand what I mean by a separate, parallel,
>>> vo
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Martin T wrote:
>
> I moved the script from /etc/init.d to /etc/network directory and
> changed the shebang line from /bin/bash to /bin/sh. /bin/sh on my
> system points to /bin/dash. Thanks for those tips!
>
> Content of firewall rule-files can be seen here:
>
> #
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:04 AM, Brian wrote:
>> On Thu 07 Aug 2014 at 20:25:22 +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
>>
>>> After rescuing two laptops which were unbootable after the installation of
>>> systemd-sysfs I had problems with stuff as bluetooth a
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Slavko wrote:
> Dňa Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:25:21 -0400 Tom H napísal:
>>
>> I've saved one or two relevant URLs from debian-devel@ pre-CTTE bug
>> thread. I can dig them up and post them if you're interested.
>
> Please, give the
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:49 AM, AW wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:19:03 +0100
> Darac Marjal wrote:
>
> > Consider it to be another database format. You wouldn't necessarily try
> > to cat a MySQL or PostgreSQL datastore; you'd use the appropriate tools
> > to select all from it.
>
> Yes. Bu
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:27 PM, AW wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:25:21 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>>
>> So, yeah, /var/log/messages sucks, and journalctl is better at
>> generating a compatible output that that file ever was in itself.
>
> I definitely agree.
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Slavko wrote:
> Dňa Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:33:23 -0400 Tom H napísal:
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Slavko wrote:
>>> Dňa Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:58:47 -0400 Tom H
>>> napísal:
>>>> If tomh-init is faster than htom-init, w
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Erwan David wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:01:57AM CEST, AW
> said:
>> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400
>> Tom H wrote:
>>>
>>> journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
>>
>> Thanks!
>> But why '4'? Why n
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:01 PM, AW wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>>
>> journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
>
> Thanks!
> But why '4'? Why not '42'? Or even better...
> journalctl show auth
> journalctl show apache
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, AW wrote:
>
> cat /var/log/auth.log
> or
> journalctl 'something unknown by me'
journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
There's tab completion, so on my laptop where I've aliased systemctl
and journalctl to sc and jc (and duplicated the systemctl and
journalctl bash completi
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> LOL, perhaps I'll boot to bin/bash, and then run a script to do
> everything else. Oh wait, I can't do that: I hear PAM now depends on
> systemd, for what reason I haven't a clue.
Maybe you should look into adapting the Android Init Language :
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Slavko wrote:
> Dňa Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:58:47 -0400 Tom H napísal:
>>
>> If tomh-init is faster than htom-init, whether there's just ssh
>> running or 100 daemons running, I want to use tomh-init.
>>
>> I can understand that th
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Erwan David wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 11:17:02PM CEST, Tom H said:
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
>>> Andrew McGlashan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that's what I meant, sysvinit is not broken.
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:18 AM, S4mmael wrote:
>
> I have a liittle problem with a wireless card of a cheap HP laptop. It works
> perfectly well out of the box in Ubuntu 14.04, but not in Debian Jessie.
>
> Here is what a managed to find.
>
> In Ubuntu it looks like that:
>
> root@ubuntu:~# dmesg
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Andrew McGlashan
>> wrote:
>>> On 5/08/2014 5:44 AM, Erwan David wrote:
>>>> Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit :
>>
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:34:22 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan
>> wrote:
>>> On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote:
>
>>> Sure it counts, but if you have 1000s of
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0200
> Raffaele Morelli wrote:
>>
>> I've seen tons of posts sent to this list about systemd... bla bla
>> bla... and did not understand what's the matter with it.
>>
>> I wonder what are you all doing with your init
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 17:17:02 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>
>> Didn't all DEs use consolekit and policykit? IIRC wasn't the CTTE bug
>> filed because of a debian-devel@ thread about Gnome depending on
>> systemd (becau
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Andrew McGlashan
wrote:
> On 5/08/2014 5:44 AM, Erwan David wrote:
>> Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit :
>>>
>>> Suppose that you have a 16-node cluster, some patches were applied to
>>> the systems overnight, a mistake was ma
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Andrew McGlashan wrote:
>>
>> Yes, that's what I meant, sysvinit is not broken.
>
> I rather agree. But the opponents cite corner cases where the
> previous security model doesn't handle every possible access case.
>
> I always hate it when peopl
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Erwan David wrote:
>
> What takes most time when booting a server is what the server does
> before booting the OS (before grub in case of linux). Optimising what
> comes after is non-sense.
And VMs?
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On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Martin G. McCormick
wrote:
> Tom H writes:
>>
>> Are you mounting "/mnt/{dev,proc,sys}" before chrooting?
>
> No. I did try the mount command after chrooting which successfully ran, but
> didn't fix the missing /dev.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Slavko wrote:
> Dňa Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:37:06 +1000 Andrew McGlashan
> napísal:
>> On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> systemd g
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Martin T wrote:
>
> I made a very simple bash script which loads the iptables
> configuration from /etc/firewall.conf and /etc/firewall6.conf files:
>
> # cat /etc/init.d/firewall
> #!/bin/bash
>
> iptables-restore < /etc/firewall.conf
> ip6tables-restore < /etc/fi
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan
wrote:
> On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan
>> wrote:
>>> My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is
>>> broken or rather
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Martin G. McCormick
wrote:
>
> It turns out that the reason I never thought of using mkfs to
> build a working boot sector is that mkfs doesn't do that. Grub,
> however, does but I am still a bit confused as to how to get it
> working. I mounted the new drive on /mn
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan
wrote:
> My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is
> broken or rather the packages [whatever they are] that don't work properly.
Who should fix sysvinit? The upstream sysvinit developers are DDs and
they didn't do it (I'm
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
> if [ -f /etc/inittab ]; then
> if grep -q '^1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty' /etc/inittab; then
> log "Fixing getty --noclear in /etc/inittab"
> sed --in-place '/^1/s/getty 38400/getty --noclear 38400/' /etc/initt
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> Is there a reason debian-user is subscribed to this bug report?
Please don't top-post.
Probably because it's a debian-user@ thread that resulted in the the
bug report and we were added to the cc as a (thoughtful) courtesy.
-
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/02/2014 03:15 PM, Brian wrote:
>> On Sat 02 Aug 2014 at 12:24:46 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
>>> Brian wrote:
With sysvinit the default at booting is for the screen messages
to fly past at a bewildering speed and then for the
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 2:59 AM, David Baron wrote:
>
> Started to get this message several times in bootup or maybe was simply not
> quick enough to catch it before. Everything seems to play.
>
> The Debian installer itself will place /usr on it own partition/filesystem. So
> what gives?
>
> Is it
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>> In this case, yeah, experimental is experimental, but there are
>>> limits. And that was not the way to have
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Andrew McGlashan
wrote:
>
> There must be an alternative to Skype.
>
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fed-up-with-skype-here-are-6-of-the-best-free-alternatives/
In theory but not in practice - unless you want to use one of the
above and talk to yourself.
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On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled
> Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x.
>
> With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype 2.2 (beta)
> running on Debian 6, I went to the Skype web site
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
>>
>> So now the question is:
>>
>> What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe'
>> at boot/ifup time?
>>
>> Evidently something has changed that has made that st
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:10:02 AM UTC+5:30, Rusi Mody wrote:
>>
>> After some recent upgrades (this is on jessie)
>> auto starting of ppp has stopped working.
>>
>> So every time after booting I now have to run pppoeconf.
>
> Some progress...
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
> On Jo, 31 iul 14, 20:13:23, JPT wrote:
>>
>> my self built system is dead because systemd installer does not check if
>> control groups are enabled BEFORE upgrading the package.
>>
>> Could someone take care so the installer checks current k
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Slavko wrote:
>>> Dňa Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:00:24 +0100 Tom Furie
>>> napísal:
>>>>
>>>> You are, of course,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Tom H a écrit :
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Mickael MONSIEUR
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> post-up /sbin/route add 1.2.3.4 dev eth0
>>
>> your "route ..." syntax looks wrong to me.
>
&
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
>
> When mounting a tmpfs on /tmp systemd sets 'strictatime'. I was
> wondering whether this is really needed. Does anybody know of software
> that would break with 'relatime' (the default) or even 'noatime'?
>
> I'd be happy to RTFM if anybod
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Gregory Seidman
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>
> I'm on stable, but I'm reading the threads about systemd and I want to be
> prepared for the next stable release. I run a RAID1 with an encryption loop
> and LVM on top of that for my home directories and a number of data volumes
> (i.e.
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Mickael MONSIEUR
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> I have a fresh installation of Debian Wheezy 7.6.0 amd64.
> The post-up line does not execute when eth0 is mounted!
> (by against my eth0 interface is mounted!)
>
> I have to mount routes, and are not:
>
> post-up /sbin/route add 1.2.3.4
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Slavko wrote:
> Dňa Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:00:24 +0100 Tom Furie
> napísal:
>>
>> You are, of course, aware that testing and unstable are test platforms
>> where breakage is to be expected? They shouldn't be used for anything
>> "mission critical", that's what stable
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
>
> All this, of course, assumes the OP doesn't want to use the previously
> mentioned suggestion of "aptitude purge '~c'". And that's fair enough;
> aptitude is not to everyone's taste.
If you'd rather not use aptitude to purge packages, you
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Erwan David wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:06:51AM CEST, Michael Biebl
> said:
>> Am 22.07.2014 19:22, schrieb Erwan David:
>>> Le 22/07/2014 18:59, Michael Biebl a écrit :
Am 22.07.2014 18:24, schrieb The Wanderer:
> As far as I can see, there
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:01 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 07/22/2014 10:34 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Erwan David
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So it seems there is a quiet on the default command line, which
>>> does not mean same thing w
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Miles Fidelman
wrote:
> Tom H wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Miles Fidelman
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Damn right I don't use development or testing versions in production.
>>> I'm
>>> looking do
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 21/07/2014 18:23, Tom H a écrit :
>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Erwan David wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 09:59:55AM CEST, Tom H said:
>>>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:33 PM, sp113438
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:56 PM, David Guntner wrote:
> Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>>
>> There is one
>>
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/
>>
>> but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily
>> used li
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Miles Fidelman
wrote:
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> Damn right I don't use development or testing versions in production. I'm
> looking down the road a year and planning what I will use in production when
> my current system is ready for upgrade. It's looking less and less like
> Debian,
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 04:37:40 -0400 Tom H wrote:
>>
>> There's already been one thread about this on debian-devel@ and it was
>> a typical thread where the pro and con make their points but no
>> decision's reache
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:58 AM, wrote:
> Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit :
>>
>> it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing
>> users.
>
> I agree, since testing is not for normal users (well... theoretically at
> least), so we could imagine that different MLs for
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:01 AM, Erwan David wrote:
>>> 2) You have a specific syntax, and a specific semantics (what does
>>> ExecStart, WantedBy, etc mean), that one must learn in order to simply
>>> read this. The namles of the sections are also meaningfull. All this
>>> defines a full fledge
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:35 AM, David Baron wrote:
> On Monday 21 July 2014 08:45:12 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
> wrote:
>>
>> (Using "init=/sbin/init" on the kernel cmdline will boot systemd if
>> you have systemd-sysv installed.)
>
> More and more complicated, huh?
> Will this
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Erwan David wrote:
>
> libpam-systemd now refuses systemd-shim (with v208 in testing)...
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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Erwan David wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 09:59:55AM CEST, Tom H said:
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:33 PM, sp113438 wrote:
>>>
>>> Booting is fast
>>
>> That's one of the development goals.
>
> I switched to
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 20/07/2014 16:11, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
>> On Du, 20 iul 14, 14:40:27, Erwan David wrote:
>>> Add to this the fact it throws away years of habits with yet another
>>> language (yes the systemd unit files are nit shellscripts but they u
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 07:30:40 schrieb Erwan David:
>
> Still… also hibernate and suspend with KDE is currently broken with sysvinit-
> core. And systemd 208 just doesn´t boot my workstation at work, while it works
> nicely with my l
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