On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Slavko <li...@slavino.sk> wrote: > Dňa Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:37:06 +1000 Andrew McGlashan > <andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> napísal: >> On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan >>> <andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> systemd gives faster boot times, so what! I prefer to boot less >>>> often and run with what works until I /have/ to do a reboot, so it >>>> wouldn't matter if it took 10 times as long to boot. Improving >>>> boot times is just like overclocking for games, it is largely >>>> irrelevant and something to boast about ... ie, no real benefit. >>> >>> Boot speed might not be an important feature for you but for >>> organizations with 1000s of servers, the faster the better. >> >> Sure it counts, but if you have 1000s of servers, you likely have many >> other considerations and you'll be pooling [at least] those servers >> in a cluster type arrangement ... much lessening the need for any >> machine to startup so quickly. > > And this is IMO main point of the problem. I have no 1000 servers and i > will not boot my machine any 2 min, to take advantage from faster > boot ;-)
Since you don't care about boot speed, you shouldn't care that your system boots faster. > And it is the point where to business take precedence before freedom of > choice (the boot system in this case). The systemd is forced (as > dependency) by the policykit and perhaps some X software, then it > switch from default to only one! Luckily for you, there's a horrible corporation called Canonical that employs a developer who put together systemd-shim and another developer who put together cgmanager for you to be able to use logind and policykit/polkit without having to use systemd as pid 1. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=Sw9tN_wFyodAtLyL9=ynZJzffoN9D3uOZno2LyML=i...@mail.gmail.com
