Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 3 December 2014 at 01:36, The Wanderer wrote: > On 12/02/2014 at 07:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 2 December 2014 at 18:05, Patrick Bartek >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >>>> Depends on what 'you'

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 3 December 2014 at 01:18, Joel Rees wrote: > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Scott Ferguson > wrote: >> On 2 December 2014 at 18:05, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> >>>> On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 23:53, Joel Rees wrote: > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote: >> Le Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:05:09 -0800, >> Patrick Bartek a écrit : >> >>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> >>> > On 2

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 18:05, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek >> wrote: >> > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: >> > >> >> On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 15:24, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman >> wrote: >>> >>> Having just waded through this thread, >> >> My sincere sympathies. >> >>> and the

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Having just waded through this thread, My sincere sympathies. > and then reading the standard itself, Based on what you are quoting - that's the Base Directory Specification, which is part of the XDG Standards > I can only conclude that it m

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: > >> On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> >> > I fear that once If? > > >systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian ? Perl might be, but it seems a little hyperbolic to say systemd is (anymore the

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 04:31, Curt wrote: > On 2014-12-01, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> .deb... ? >> >> Ross - are you trying to install JN Net Connect Java client for SA? >> > > I thought he was trying to install this: > > http://www.scc.kit.edu/s

Fwd: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
Apologies - accidentally sent to Ross only -- Forwarded message -- From: Scott Ferguson Date: 2 December 2014 at 08:07 Subject: Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client) To: Ross Boylan On 2 December 2014 at 06:41, Ross Boylan wrote: > Thanks Andrei, Scott and Curt

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 1 December 2014 at 23:15, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 28 nov 14, 12:50:56, Ross Boylan wrote: >> Judging from https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO, which doesn't >> seem current but is all I could find, if I'm on the amd64 architecture >> and want to support i386 I should expect to get pa

Re: fsck fails with "partition in use" error after partition umount'ed

2014-11-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30 November 2014 at 23:49, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 06:09:38PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 30 November 2014 at 17:47, Joel Roth wrote: >> > I notice that /dev/sdb1, an ext4 partition on a USB drive has remounted >> > read-only. >> &

Re: fsck fails with "partition in use" error after partition umount'ed

2014-11-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30 November 2014 at 17:47, Joel Roth wrote: > I notice that /dev/sdb1, an ext4 partition on a USB drive has remounted > read-only. > > I try > > umount /dev/sdb1 > > then > > fsck /dev/sdb1 > > fsck from util-linux 2.25.2 > e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014) > /dev/sdb1 is in use. > e2fsck: Cannot co

Re: Creating a peculiar Live-CD

2014-11-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30 November 2014 at 02:30, Richard Owlett wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> On 29 November 2014 at 08:17, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> >>> Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/28/14, Richard Owlett wrote: >&

Re: Image cloning software

2014-11-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30 November 2014 at 10:53, Catalin Soare wrote: > > On Nov 30, 2014 1:26 AM, "Scott Ferguson" > wrote: >> >> On 30 November 2014 at 04:39, Miroslav Skoric wrote: >> > Is there a good software for Debian 7.7 as well as for Debian 6.10 that... >

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30 November 2014 at 09:37, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/26/2014 01:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> 'Now' I regret not keeping the notes when I setup an iPhone rule for >> someone last year! :/ >> This time I will. > > I still get no device under /

Re: clamav-daemon broken after latest upgrade

2014-11-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30 November 2014 at 08:59, Robert S wrote: > I'm running a stock-standard installation of debian (7.7). I do regular > security updates. > > # dpkg-reconfigure clamav-daemon > /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: clamav-daemon is broken or not fully installed > > # apt-get upgrade gives me > The follo

Re: Image cloning software

2014-11-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30 November 2014 at 04:39, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > Is there a good software for Debian 7.7 as well as for Debian 6.10 that is > capable to produce a multi DVD/CD image of a working system, in a way that > such image can be used later as a DVD/CD installation media for 'cloning' on > the other

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29 November 2014 at 17:06, Rick Macdonald wrote: > On 28/11/14 05:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 28 November 2014 at 16:08, Rick Macdonald wrote: >>>>>>>> On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> > > Hey, thanks for all this!

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
My apologies for the delay in replying. On 28 November 2014 at 16:08, Rick Macdonald wrote: > On 26/11/14 04:20 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> On 27/11/14 06:32, Rick Macdonald wrote: >>> >>> On 26/11/14 08:24 AM, Rick Macdonald wrote: >>>> &g

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29 November 2014 at 07:05, lee wrote: > Scott Ferguson writes: > >> >> >> On 22/11/14 20:50, lee wrote: >>> >>> Didier, >>> >>> you have *totally* missed the OPs point. >>> >>> BTW, since you assume that no

Re: Creating a peculiar Live-CD

2014-11-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29 November 2014 at 08:17, Richard Owlett wrote: > Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: >> >> On 11/28/14, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> > > I've just proved ( again ;/ ) that my writing lacks clarity. It's hard to describe a custom live CD in a single, small post. > The eject command indeed works as expec

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
>> >> Quick comment (I will get back to this later today or early tomorrow):- >> grep ntfs /lib/udev/rules.d/*.rules >> /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules:ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="ntfs|vfat", \ >> >> If this does control the effect you note, (which is easy to determine), >> then it's simple to create a ru

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/11/14 02:46, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Chris Bannister > wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 09:30:27AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >>> happened. But the upgrade was of over a thousand packages. All I was >>> trying to do was to provide information which migh

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/11/14 06:32, Rick Macdonald wrote: > On 26/11/14 08:24 AM, Rick Macdonald wrote: >> On 26/11/14 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote: >>>> On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> > > Sorry for r

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/11/14 01:30, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Scott Ferguson > wrote: >> On 26/11/14 12:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>> On 26/11/2014 11:07 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>> And *what do we know about the original "customisation

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
Thanks for replying. On 27/11/14 02:24, Rick Macdonald wrote: > On 26/11/14 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote: >>> On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>> Sorry, I don't know what DE means! >>>> Deskt

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd (now moaning about GNOME-ing)

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 21:17, Erwan David wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 09:41:45AM CET, Curt said: >> On 2014-11-26, Erwan David wrote: >>> >>> So this means gnome now depends on non free drivers ? >>> >> >> So in your opinion there are no open source hardware acceleration drivers >> in existence? >> >

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 11:07, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 26/11/14 09:14, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 02:44:19AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> >> >> Now, (I hope I'm not wrong on this.) It seems that the default GNOME >> installati

Re: disk group (was ... Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?)

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 21:27, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 02:46:24PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> In which case I'd "recommend":- >> *1.* uncommenting the user_allow_other line in /etc/fuse.conf >> >> *2.* changing the fstab line

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
'Now' I regret not keeping the notes when I setup an iPhone rule for someone last year! :/ This time I will. On 26/11/14 14:04, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/24/2014 02:39 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Thanks for the replies. >> >> On 24/11/14 05:12, Marc Shapiro wr

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote: > On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Sorry, I don't know what DE means! >> Desktop Environment e.g. GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc > > KFCE. ?? https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kfce&searchon=names&

Re: [OT] alternative to dnsdynamic.com?

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 13:53, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 09:11:04AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Paul Scott wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:40:42AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 12:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 26/11/2014 11:07 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> And *what do we know about the original "customisation"* that was >> made - which may have 'some' bearing on the "badness" of the >> upgrade/up

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
I missed some questions there :( On 26/11/14 14:46, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 26/11/14 11:41, Rick Macdonald wrote: >> On 25/11/14 04:04 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 26/11/14 08:03, Rick Macdonald wrote: >> >> "fuse" doesn't seem to be a

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 11:41, Rick Macdonald wrote: > On 25/11/14 04:04 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 26/11/14 08:03, Rick Macdonald wrote: >>> Well, many hours of googling, and running grep on my entire >>> filesystem, have failed me this time. >>> >>> I'

Re: [OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 10:49, Howard Eisenberger wrote: > On 2014-11-25, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > > Good thing. dnsdynamic stopped working again today. Seems they may have a systemic problem:- https://twitter.com/dnsdynamic > > Regards, > > Howard E. > > Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 09:14, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 02:44:19AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> Or, perhaps a general rule for default settings - "safest/do no harm"? >> [just a wild guess] > > Wouldn't it make more sense having the def

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 08:03, Rick Macdonald wrote: > Well, many hours of googling, and running grep on my entire filesystem, > have failed me this time. > > I'm running up-to-date wheezy. DE? > > How does one override or change to options fuse gives to ntfs-3g (if I > have that right)? > > I have an NTF

Re: iceweasel and dolphin

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 04:45, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > Scott, you made my day! Your email helped me to solve the issue. > Thanks a lot. > > dolphin was set as my default file browser: 2# xdg-mime query default > inode/directory dolphin.desktop > > I followed your next advice to disable nautilus in >

Re: Purging a package............... (best practise for SuggestsImportant)

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 21:33, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 25 nov 14, 14:25:13, Charlie wrote: >> >> Thank you for that information, it was most helpful. >> >> I decided to add: >> >> >>SuggestsImportant >>{ >> "false" >>}; >> }; >> >> To the existing etc/aptapt.conf.d/01autoremove f

Re: iceweasel and dolphin

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 17:17, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > Hi, > > I am getting crazy with iceweasel not opening dolphin for "containing > folders". Hi, I run Debian Wheezy, with some backports, Iceweasel 33.1, KDE4[*1] and *no* GNOME on this workstation. [*1] kdebase-bin 4:4.8.4-2 (heavily customised KD

Re: Purging a package............... (and apt-config processing order)

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 15:14, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/24/2014 at 11:03 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> I don't know whether /etc/apt/apt.conf is processed before >> fragments in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d - but I'd be interested in >> learning. Anyone?? > > Now that yo

Re: Purging a package............... (and apt-config processing order)

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
CORRECTION On 25/11/14 14:25, Charlie wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:02:37 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > >> On 25/11/14 13:02, Charlie wrote: >>> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:24:29 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent: >>> >> Notes:- >> *Fragments are processed i

Re: Purging a package...............

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 13:02, Charlie wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:24:29 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent: > >> Because of this I set >> >> APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false"; >> >> in apt.conf > > I have no apt.conf but I do have an /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory? > > Am I missing an apt.conf file

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 03:36, Curt wrote: > On 2014-11-24, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >>> Some of them came to Debian because it was one of the last holdouts. >> >> Is that a reference to a term used in a television show about the >> fictitious "Wild West"? I

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 03:26, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>>> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguso

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 03:13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 10:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 25/11/14 00:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>>> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will >>>&g

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 02:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 8:58 AM, Martin Read wrote: >> On 24/11/14 13:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> And exactly what is the "Debian way" to add custom (NOT customized >>> pre-packaged) software to the system? >> >> As far as I can tell, the obvious things that go into

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>>> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will >>>>> lose a lot of

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 01:03, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/24/2014 at 02:59 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:58:46PM -0800, Matt Ventura wrote: >> >>> I think the bug here IMO is that a system simply shouldn't *do* >>> things in general without me telling it to. If I close the lid

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 00:53, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/24/2014 at 02:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 24/11/14 13:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >>> On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > >>>> Like what?? I first installed systemd back when it was >>&

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 00:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a >>> lot of dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another >>> fork, or possibly another distr

Re: [OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 00:33, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. > Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? > > Hugo > > noip.com is one of many - it's possible to use it with the debian package "ddclient" Do I use it? Yes. Is

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
Thanks for the replies. On 24/11/14 05:12, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside >> working all day (almost beer o'clock) >> >> On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 11:36, Marc Shapiro wrote: > ERROR: Pairing with device ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9 > failed with unhandled error code -3 That's a plist error. What is the output of "idevicepair -d pair" (you may need to paste the output to paste.debian.net and provide a link to it in you

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 13:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote: >> On 11/23/2014 12:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> That is the huge majority of Debian users. >>> Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as >>> expected. Apropos of what? That "surpris

Re: my unintentional irony and self-satire - Now French saying to Aussie colloquialism fail

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 16:42, Bret Busby wrote: > On 24/11/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 2014-11-23, Bret Busby wrote: >> [*1] one-bookian equivalent - Matthew7:5,Paul6:42 >> > > In tems of Orstarlianinsms, does the above, mean that Matthew got 7 > gaols, and whallop

Re: my unintentional irony and self-satire - Now French saying to Aussie colloquialism fail

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
> On 2014-11-23, Bret Busby wrote: >>On 24/11/14 08:06, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 24/11/14 03:38, Curt wrote: >>>> On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>>> >>>> To any listmasters that might be paying attention. >>> L'hôp

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 11:25, Teresa e Junior wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:10:35 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 21/11/14 04:56, Teresa e Junior wrote: > > Your solution is much simpler, thank you! My pleasure. For completeness, you'll find this works also:- curl --ciphers

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 04:56, Teresa e Junior wrote: > Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11, and when I run `curl > https://www.basebit.com.br', it fails with the message: > curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 > alert internal error > > I have done some research, and found

Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 03:38, Curt wrote: > On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> To any listmasters that might be paying attention. >> > > L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité? > > :) Apt. (In English "Pot, meet kettle") Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 22:13, Curt wrote: > On 2014-11-22, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> What next? >> Shall we debate gravity or other pointless exercises[*1] (unless the >> Debian User list has become a school for aspiring sophists)? >> > > I've always been a

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 19:07, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 23/11/2014 11:14 AM, John Hasler wrote: >> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes: >>> But they are anathema to the "We are systemd of Borg, resistance is >>> futile" crowd. > >> And then there is the "Systemd is the Borg! Kill! Kill!" crowd who jump >> into ev

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside working all day (almost beer o'clock) On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote: >>> My daughter has recently

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote: > My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be > able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an > iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the > linux box, as well. I have googled. I hav

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 08:47, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson > wrote: > >> On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 03:03, Buntunub wrote: > I understand your reasons for thinking Systemd is bad for Debian. I do, and I > also agree with some of them. However, Debian is composed of a diverse group > of people who have every viewpoint under the sun from Systemd is the bane of > Linux, to Systemd is the

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
In an effort to keep a ration discussion from sliding into a pointless flame-war. On 23/11/14 02:07, Martin Read wrote: > On 22/11/14 09:50, lee wrote: >> Nobody understands udev rules, > > Challenge accepted. > > *looks at /etc/udev/rules.d* *looks at /lib/udev/rules.d* > > I'm honestly baffle

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 02:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 10 nov 14, 18:20:37, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman: >>> Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in such a way that systemd is never

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
Dear sockpuppet - I'm surprised you're still around, I heard your bridge fell on you. [saddened] On 22/11/14 23:22, Gregory Smith wrote: > Social progressives won. And that's a bad thing? I'm guessing you'd prefer social regressives (the anti-social) won. > >

Re: Asterisk security

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 23:20, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > A lot of bugs [1] but no Debian updates. > Should I be concerned? Sorry - I don't have an authoritative answer to that. It 'might' help if you gave some information about which release you are using. > > [1] For instance; > http://d

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. >> The winner was "developers will work it out themselves" i.e. Debian

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
Please don't top post. On 22/11/14 20:50, lee wrote: > > Didier, > > you have *totally* missed the OPs point. > > BTW, since you assume that no "systemd takeover" Hyperbole much? > will happen (despite it > already has), > what has been the outcome of the GR to support multiple > init sys

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 19:50, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 22 November 2014 00:47:00 Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 22/11/14 09:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote: >>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson >>>>

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 19:07, Hans wrote: >> >> Lisi, my first thought also, but... 'perhaps' Stephen *did* read >> the OP's comment, and like myself, as a result of looking for the >> bug report in an effort to find any useful information without >> having to ask the OP - couldn't find any such bug repor

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 09:43, Ross Boylan wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson > wrote: >> On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote: >>> Over the last week I've repeatedly found my machine unbootable, >>> in the sense I couldn't get to a working syst

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 09:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson >> >> wrote: >>> On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote: >>>> Over the last week I've repeatedly found my m

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 05:53, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 21 November 2014 18:42:20 Stephen Allen wrote: >>> So, do not use this option in bleachbit! I already filed a bugreport and >>> think this warning might help others. >> >> You should file a bug report. Run reportbug, should be on your debian >> syste

Re: Custom /etc/kernel scripts not working.

2014-11-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 19:25, dE wrote: > I've certain scripts placed in /etc/kernel post*.d to update the kernel > and init in the efi system partition. > > This's the script -- > > #! /bin/bash > > cp -Lf /vmlinuz /efi/linux.efi > cp -Lf /initrd.img /efi > > I tried echoing somthing and it did not produ

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote: > Over the last week I've repeatedly found my machine unbootable, in the > sense I couldn't get to a working system without intervention. > Sometimes I couldn't even get the grub2 menu. Tick > > Things are OK now, but I'm trying to understand what went wron

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 06:45, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Scott Ferguson a écrit : >> >> Might be worth fscking the disk first in case that's where the problem lies. > > Why ? fsck works on filesystems, not disks or partition tables. > > Good question - because I didn't

Re: USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 07:24, Joel Roth wrote: > Dear List, > > I started noticing a delay between when I start moving the > mouse on my T410 (running sid), and when the cursor actually > starts to move. I replaced the mouse, but it didn't help. > > Now I am noticing that when I've left the USB keyboard idl

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 01:48, Amodelo wrote: > > Am 19.11.2014 um 09:48 schrieb Scott Ferguson > : > >> On 19/11/14 18:05, Erwan David wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 05:34:20PM CET, Brian said: >>>> On Tue 18 Nov 2014 at 10:56:58 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: &

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 20:13, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Scott Ferguson a écrit : >> On 20/11/14 12:45, Martin Read wrote: >>> On 20/11/14 01:03, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>>>> On 20/11/14 04:06, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: >>>>>>> I think it&#x

Re: wheezy php5 upgrade -- lots of cron emails

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 18:12, Tad Bak wrote: > After the recent php5 security upgrade on wheezy (libapache2-mod-php5, > php5-cli and php5-common) my cron started to generate a lot of e-mails: > > From: Cron Daemon > To: root@... > Subject: Cron[ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -x > /usr/lib

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 12:45, Martin Read wrote: > On 20/11/14 01:03, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>> On 20/11/14 04:06, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: >>>>> I think it's msdos. >> >> AFAIK mdos partition tables don't support anywhere near that number of

Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
Thanks for responding. On 20/11/14 11:47, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 20/11/14 08:14, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Brian wrote: >>>> On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jonathan Dowla

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 11:14, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > Le Mer 19 novembre 2014 21:16, Scott Ferguson a écrit : >> On 20/11/14 04:06, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: >> >>> Le Lun 17 novembre 2014 19:32, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit : >>> >>

Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 10:15, Peter Nieman wrote: > On 19/11/14 22:21, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state of alternatives. >>> If you insist then plea

Re: Reloading the kernel with kexec before other services start

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 10:43, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > This is a virtual machine whose bootloader is bypassed. GRUB is ignored > completely, so I can't modify it to pass kernel options. That's why I > need to use kexec. Then I'd suggest you:- ;try the reboot method - warm reboot and kexec should allow

Re: Reloading the kernel with kexec before other services start

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 10:36, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Thanks for the answer. > > If I understand correctly, your suggestions take effect when restarting > the machine. I'm looking for something that takes effect when starting up. Simpler - add an extra GRUB entry. My apologies for the confusion (I've

Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 10:16, Brian wrote: > On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 16:14:46 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> Brian wrote: >>> On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> No, not ne

Re: Reloading the kernel with kexec before other services start

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 10:00, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Hello. > > I need to reload the same kernel that the machine boots with with kexec, > in order to specify different kernel parameters. Changing the boot > loader is unfortunately not an option. > > I'm using Debian Wheezy with sysvinit. I can make

Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 08:14, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Brian wrote: >> On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> >>> Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> >> The vast majority on debian-user see this list as being for the suppo

Re: No Google bubble?

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 08:14, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Scott Ferguson [2014-11-19 > 21:46 +0200]: >> With the greatest respect Martin - have you tried testing it >> yourself? > > No, I have not used Google for over 5 years by choice because I do > not like it when

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 04:06, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > Le Lun 17 novembre 2014 19:32, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit : >> On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> >>> So, what part of that disk should I extract, which could be usable >>> and sharable? Partition table, of course, whic

Re: No Google bubble?

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 04:04, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:49:09PM +, Curt wrote: >> On 2014-11-19, Renaud OLGIATI >> wrote: >>> The claim is your Google search history affects your Google search results. >>> >>> Seems Google tailors your results depending on what you look

Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 04:01, golinux wrote: > On Wed, 11/19/14, songbird wrote: > > Subject: the developers have spoken > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 8:11 AM > >the vote is in. > > [cut] > > > > My beloved D

Re: No Google bubble?

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/11/14 22:09, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Scott Ferguson [2014-11-19 > 10:48 +0200]: >> Sadly, whoever told you that was misinformed - and misinformed >> you. Google results may vary according to the constantly updating >> search index - and search terms -

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/11/14 20:53, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 07:48:49PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 19/11/14 18:05, Erwan David wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 05:34:20PM CET, Brian >>> said: >>>> On Tue 18 Nov 2014 at 10:56:58 +, Jonathan

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