On 25/11/14 00:53, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/24/2014 at 02:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 24/11/14 13:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >>> On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > >>>> Like what?? I first installed systemd back when it was >>>> announced. I have yet to have a single problem with it. >>> >>> What about all of those people with custom software running >>> which relies on sysv init for starting? >> >> They should continue using sysv, don't you think? >> >> It's illogical to upgrade and not expect change - even when >> electing (as Debian allows) to retain the same init system. > > It's illogical to upgrade and not expect *improvement*,
Good luck with that (expecting experience to triumph over optimism might be difficult to reconcile with so many posts from those opposed to a new default init). I'd recommend weighting the outcomes before embarking on an adventure with expectations. e.g. I admin systems that still run old-stable because the "advantages" of moving to Wheezy do not provide a compelling argument to do so. YMMV. Everyone has an opinion, no one "owns" facts. <snipped> > > That depends on what you (or they) count as a "hit". And whether the batter is swinging a fickle stick? > > They will certainly hopefully, be doing a "little" research before banging the enter key... Please note that dist-upgrade requires more action on the part of the user than just that. <snipped> >> Those that deploy customisations in the "Debian Way" should file >> bug reports if those customisations are not supported *if* they >> change init systems. Upgrades have *always* supported >> customisations done the "Debian Way" - and I have every >> confidence they will continue to do so > > Is this impacted in any way by the discussion recently on (I > think) debian-devel about things under /etc which are now symlinks > to configuration files (some of them I think systemd-related) under > /lib or /usr/lib, which latter will be overwritten on upgrade even > if local modifications have been made? It's late, I'm tired, I cannot parse that. Perhaps if you replace "I thing" with "I know" e.g. a reference, preferably to something relevant to when Jessie becomes stable, I'll endeavour to answer that question - until then it's (unintentionally?) a little too "Glenn Beck/Duane Gish". > > At a glance, it certainly looks to me as if "the Debian Way" of > customizing things may now have changed at least somewhat What were you "glancing" at? (it would be helpful so I can respond to your question - assuming you are asking a non-rhetorical question). <snipped> Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/547350af.9090...@gmail.com
