nosh version 1.40

The nosh package is now up to version 1.40 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ * https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-quarterly/blob/master/2018q4/nosh.md This version sees changes to the doco, improvements to network configuration, and a cha

djbwares version 9

The djbwares package is now up to version 9 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ This version sees changes to the doco and to the DNS and HTTP servers. FreeBSD binaries I plan for this to be the last release with binarie

Re: get my ip address

tony; I am aware that I can call ip a and parse the result. [...] Is there any other way to obtain this data, maybe from /sys? just call libc.getifaddrs() directly. * http://programmaticallyspeaking.com./getting-network-interfaces-in-python.html

Re: stracing login process with systemd?

Eduard Bloch: that was the best guess I could extract from the documentation Try some StackExchange answers. * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/477049/5132 * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/427917/5132 * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/423648/5132 * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/44183

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

Greg Wooledge: At some point I'm going to need to write a wiki page to explain the change, and list some known workarounds, so that users can pick which one they want to implement. You could point them to StackExchange in the meantime. (-: * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/460769/5132

Re: No ifconfig

* https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg01613.html * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17152738 * https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=274269 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17151922 Since I needed an |ifconfig| with a more BSD-like interface /a

Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X)

Felix Miata: Indeed. It's what I had in mind when I responded. I'll give one guess where it came from. Time's up. Yes, systemd. Who couldn't have guessed. It imposed a notion that I first noticed (wish to guess where?) Yup, on Fedora, home of Leonard P, under the aegis of RedHat, and

Re: logout kills X

Greg Wooledge: The man page for |clear_console|(1) is a little unclear to me, and a little bit disturbing. I cannot figure out what "changes the foreground virtual terminal to another terminal" is supposed to mean, but between that and the reference to |chvt|(1) under SEE ALSO, it seems like

Re: Bug#132542: sysvinit: please make /etc/init.d/rcS a conffile

Thorsten Glaser: > Just accept that this idea, originating from the systemd people at Fedora/Freedesktop, is NOT welcome to classical Unix people. Ahem! We classical Unix people experienced this idea in the late 1980s, from where it *really* originated, Sun and AT&T. * https://groups.googl

nosh version 1.39

The nosh package is now up to version 1.39 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2017-07-2017-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ I missed announcing 1.38, so this announcement will cover both versions. These versions s

Re: Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

to...@tuxteam.de: Inittab was the original way of doing things for AT&T, BSD copied that, and SysV grafted /etc/init.d onto it. Slowly other unices followed (alas!). Some history seems in order. There wasn't really an original way of doing things, as in First Edition Unix this stuff, incl

Re: anacron mysteriously not working

Michael Lange: [...] I discovered that the syslog had become rather huge, so apparently logrotate had not been performed for months. See the thread started by John Cunningham on this very mailing list on this topic 6 days before you did.

Re: Jessie: No logrotate since October 2016?

John Cunningham: I hate to wade into the pool of systemd hate, but is this systemd's fault? I noticed anacron doesn't exist on this system. Is it supposed to anymore? Or is that one of the things that have been deprecated? If so, how are the /etc/cron.daily jobs getting run these days? You'l

Re: Invalid UTF-8 byte? (was: Re: utf)

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: Also, a text file MAY contain NULs (the character), it is just considered bad practice (nowadays?). Don't assume you won't see any. For example, received e-mail is *more* likely to have NULs in it than normal text due to the quality of some mail agents out there.

Re: Invalid UTF-8 byte? (was: Re: utf)

rhkramer: Where were you in 2000 when I started the project? I cannot speak for anyone else, but I was probably once again giving a frequently given answer that I eventually put up on a WWW page. http://jdebp.eu./FGA/mail-mbox-formats.html

Re: Invalid UTF-8 byte? (was: Re: utf)

rhkramer: The reason I wanted such a byte was to use it as a record separator in a set of text files (that I use as an askSam "workalike" (or "worksimilar") so that I could use msort (which depends on a 1 byte record separator to --separate the records ;-) while sorting. Some of the files alr

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

Greg Wooledge: If there existed a single, universal, simple answer, don't you think we would have put it on the wiki page? I think that login.conf is a step in the right direction, and I'm planning on making tools that support it. Or, rather, on making the tools that already support it on

Re: Spurious character typed on console every ~20 secs until logged in

David Wright: an extra ^@ character¹ Unix & Linux Stack Exchange had this last year. * https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/395494/ * https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/396192/ * https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/360830/

Re: restarting ntp

Michael Grant: It's the last line in the file in the [Service] section. A little research shows that this line seems to belong in the [Unit] section. The people that you should talk to are Lennart Poettering who wrote that, and Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek who reviewed it. * https://github

Origin of /var/run contents

Greg Wooledge: Wheezy used sysvinit and related pacakges, not systemd. Jessie does have the file-hierarchy(7) man page that Jonathan mentioned. Debian 7 had systemd, and the sharp-eyed who read the URL will have noticed that I pointed to the Debian 7 version of that manual page. Have a manu

Origin of /var/run contents

Gene Heskett: Didn't anyone think of the stuff that runs as a user? They did. They gave you a /run/user/$UID directory owned by you, and an XDG_RUNTIME_DIR environment variable whose value points to it that you use so that its location is configurable. They also gave you a manual entry.

Re: Origin of /var/run contents

Dave Sherohman: Or should I be going about this in a completely different manner? Yes. [Service] Type=simple User=starman RuntimeDirectory=starman And simply do not use the --pid and --daemonize options in the first place. You are using a service manager that tracks child processes and

hostname

Linux/Unix hostname resolution is only done by consulting respected services, not by everyone announcing themselves in broadcast mode. Greg Wooledge, meet mDNS and avahi/Bonjour. (-: * http://multicastdns.org/

SSL inspection

Reco: Browsers do certificate validation, "wrong IP address" would be possible if the third party somehow produced a valid certificate for wiki.debian.org (you have to be a CA *or* the government to do this) and faked a DNS record (that's easy part). One can also do it if one is the person's

failed to set console font and keymap

Anil Duggirala: Actually, the error says. "Failed to start Set console font and keymap". That is the description of a service. Read the journal with systemctl status and journalctl to see what has been logged about why it has failed.

Re: What is available for setting services to run levels

Harry Putnam: What tools do we have for setting services to run levels As of Debian 8, you are using a systemd operating system. Forget about runlevels. They are, as the systemd doco says several times over, "obsolete". * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/196014/5132 * https://unix.stacke

nosh version 1.37

The nosh package is now up to version 1.37 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2017-07-2017-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ Some of the changes in this release are works in progress, that you will see

djbwares version 7

djbwares is now at version 7. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ There are only a few changes. A common build problem across several toolsets that occurs if one has set a |CDPATH|, has been fixed. |dnscache| now has a |FORWARDFIRST| mode

redo version 1.4

redo is now at version 1.4 * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/redo/ The only change from 1.3 is a belt-and-braces protection mechanism that prevents cleanup code from being told to delete a parent directory.

Re: systemd 237-1: problem starting dnsmasq

Michael Biebl: If other services depend on dnsmasq, please keep https://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=877 in mind Please do not. It is an erroneous conclusion based upon a faulty analysis that conflates the readiness protocols

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

Michael Stone: Anyway, if there was a simple solution someone would have implemented it by now. Indeed, that is the case; and it has been around for almost as long as those 20 years that you have been watching people use the GNU tool. In 2001, Paul Jarc invented a fairly simple notation for

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

rhkramer: Intentionally cross posted. Aside: For those on the debian-user lists, the thread came from the debian-backports list, but my frustration should probably be expressed more to the debian-user list (or debian-developer list, assuming there is such a list (to which I am not subscribed)

nosh version 1.36

The nosh package is now up to version 1.36 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ More Java tools This release comes with the |find-default-jvm| and |find-

The new normal of logging

Roberto C. Sánchez: Is this the new normal, for things to get captured in some systemd log [...]? * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/294206/5132 Yes.

Upgrade from jessie to strech wants to bloat by system

Urs Thuermann: I see that some new versions of packages are installed without the old versions being removed, although they are marked as automatically installed, e.g. Linux kernel, clang, llvm, and some others. For example # aptitud

nosh version 1.35

The nosh package is now up to version 1.35 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ Networking As I mentioned a week or so ago, the external configuration im

Archnosh 1.35 networking

Thomas: [...] the new networking documentation [...] This will benefit a general readership, as well as you looking towards Archnosh 1.35. When you upgrade to 1.35, there will be two ways of configuring things. You can either write a Debian-style /etc/network/interfaces file, or you can e

dhcp restart with bad config

Bonno Bloksma: There is the strange fact that it seems the config is tested twice but I guess systemd will try to start a service twice before giving up. I recommend less guessing and more reading your own posts. (-: You yourself posted the very script fragment where /the script itself/ runs

Re: systemd says "org.freedesktop.systemd1.TransactionIsDestructive"

Dave Sherohman: The mention of freedesktop in one of the messages suggests that this may be somehow X/GUI related, No, it does not. That is not the only place where one finds such names. Or, rather, the mechanism that uses such names is not only used for graphical user interfaces. It is,

Re: Weird shell script behavior in a cron job

James H. H. Lampert: Could it be that |cron| is running it an entirely different shell, that doesn't understand the |if| statement? Despite what others have said, the answer to this question is no. Whilst you /are/ running two different shells, the problem is not the |if| statement. Both o

Re: obsolete wiki

rhkra...@gmail.com: Well, even a vague note on the page something like: "Some of this seems to be out of date with the advent of systemd and its adoption in Debian starting with version n.n (). If you can contribute anything more to this story, please do." ...would be a start. That sort of

No ifconfig

Eike Lantzsch: Yes, I ask myself why this isn't possible on Linux: ifconfig enp3s0 inet alias 192.168.12.206 netmask 255.255.255.0 while it is perfectly possible on OpenBSD (with the correct device of course). It's possible if you spell it |inet add| instead of |inet alias|. (-:

No ifconfig

Christian Seiler: From my personal experience, the following two things are features I'm actually using regularly and that don't work with it: 1. IPv6 doesn't really work properly (as explained elsewhere by other people in this thread) 2. Can't add multiple IP addresses to the s

No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

Greg Wooledge: wooledg:~$ ip link 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether a0:8c:fd:c3:89:e0 brd

obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

Greg Wooledge: Gene's copy/paste was crude, but his point was essentially valid: No, it was not. I remind you of xyr point which was: Gene Heskett: So if you call it widely publicized it fails that definition AFAIAC. That I pointed to 9 different copies, including copies on Debian's ow

obsolete wiki (was: no /etc/inittab)

Felix Miata: The problem with software documentation wikis is the people in best position to know what they should contain have no incentive to do the update work. To write useful docs requires knowledge what should be in them. That knowledge is mostly possessed by those writing and changing

Re: How does one create virtual ethernet devices with modern tools on Debian 8 (jessie)?

Tom Browder: # added alias IPv4s: up ip addr add 142.54.186.3/29 dev $IFACE label $IFACE:0 down ip addr del 142.54.186.3/29 dev $IFACE label $IFACE:0 Ironically, the "modern tools" aspect is the thing that you are in fact aiming to eliminate here. |/etc/network/interfaces| is best

Systemd: Error when replacing postfix LSB init with postfix.service on Debian 8 (jessie)

Sven Hartge: systemd happily runs "legacy" LSB init scripts ... except when its one-size-fits-all approach does not work, of course. Example: * https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386846/ This is the problem with even Mewburn rc scripts (as I can attest from personal experience of wr

Systemd: Error when replacing postfix LSB init with postfix.service on Debian 8 (jessie)

Tom Browder: # systemctl enable postfix # systemctl daemon-reload Minor note: enable incorporates a daemon-reload.

Re: No ifconfig

Erik Christiansen: Gene, ifconfig is SysV flavoured, so not favoured on the Systemd journey, AIUI. van Smoorenburg init and systemd actually have nothing whatsoever to do with it. ifconfig uses one Linux API for sending information to and from the kernel, ip uses a different Linux API. I

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: Furthermore: In this *particular* regard, the developer-provided doco actually *is* clear. The upstart manual page for inittab has been warning that the file is obsolete for over ten years, and that manual page is copied all over the WWW making it fairly easy to

Re: no /etc/inittab

Joe: Stretch? Systemd was default init for Jessie, the previous stable. Worse, an upgrade of Wheezy to Jessie would actually change the init system used, thus breaking almost every Debian server in the world. Nicolas George: I must be lucky, none of the servers that I handle broke because

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

Felix Miata: What's needed is incentive for code creators to simultaneously document, with ample examples that man pages usually omit, even if it's only in formal, non-wikified docs that wikis can point to. Gene Heskett: It should be an iron-clad rule that a developer submitting his itch

Re: no /etc/inittab

Pierre Frenkiel: I discovered recently, after re-installing my system with the Debian 9.1 kde live dvd, that the /etc/inittab is no more present, although all the documentation I found still mentions it, Have a frequently given answer that tells you otherwise. (-: * http://jdebp.eu./FGA/i

Re: No ifconfig

Glenn English: I've written many scripts over the years, using ifconfig and others, and having everything broken now is a major PITA. I very much agree that sysV init and those old commands were a mess, especially with the introduction of ipv6. But I'd have more inclined to fix what was ther

No ifconfig

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: [...] and the only reason we had to keep it around by default [...] was broken by GNU upstream when it took ifconfig out of the bit-rot pit hell and started maintaining it again. net-tools is not a GNU Software package. * https://sourceforge.net/projects/net-tools

Re: W: Failed to fetch [..] The following signatures were invalid: [..]

Adam Cecile: Since I upgraded to Stretch I get the following warning when running apt update: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.cloudera.com/cdh5/debian/jessie/amd64/cdh/dists/jessie-cdh5/InRelease The following signatures were invalid:F36A89E33CC1BD0F71079007327574EE02A818DD What the p

Re: How to change default umask in Stretch?

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > Note that the ideal implementation would be to inherit the umask [...] Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: > Actually, the ideal implementation from the GNOME point of view would be for > these programs to pass the umask from the client process to the server, jus

Re: How to change default umask in Stretch?

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: Note that the ideal implementation would be to inherit the umask [...] Actually, the ideal implementation from the GNOME point of view would be for these programs to pass the umask from the client process to the server, just like they pass open file handles, the

Re: How to change default umask in Stretch?

Greg Wooledge: It's beginning to sound like GNOME applications aren't even launched by GNOME at all, but rather by systemd/dbus. Somehow. GNOME Editor and other GIO applications work like how 16-bit Windows applications used to work. GNOME Terminal goes yet farther and not even the first

djbwares version 6

djbwares is now at version 6. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ The main changes here are in dnscache and ftpd. dnscache now has a built-in resource record for localhost, like it already had a built-in A resource record. I've slightly improve

systemd & postgresql - flooding system log

Don Armstrong: > Something like this (untested) When you do test it (-: you will discover the rather drastic side-effect on all of the repeated SSH logins of suddenly running them in a completely different control group with completely different settings. The systemd PAM hook does quite a lot of

Gateway disappears on IPv6

Rainer Dorsch: > for me it looks a little weird that IPv4 gets configured via dhcp and IPv6 is > a static configuration It's not, though. Do not fall into the trap of thinking that because you've had ubiquitous NAT, stateful DHCP, and the like for IP version 4 that this carries over into IP ver

systemd & postgresql - flooding system log

Václav Ovsík: > How I should get rid of this session management the right way? I have seen this systemd problem myself. What is happening is that every time something SSHes in as user postgres, systemd-logind is starting up a per-user instance of systemd along with with a whole bunch of per-user

nosh version 1.34

The nosh package is now up to version 1.34 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ Once again, there are a few more service bundles. The most interesting ones in this version are

spam to aliases and system accounts

Daniel Pocock: > Do any of the mailers (postfix, exim, etc) provide a convenient way > to exclude delivery to system accounts by default, or to exclude > these aliases and accounts from receiving mail from external senders? > Could anybody share examples of how they do it or pointers to > any

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

Greg Wooledge: > Don't even get me started on sshd.service vs. ssh.service. Do > you have any idea how hard it is to notice that extra/missing “d”, > and figure out why things Simply Do Not Work? * http://www.mail-archive.com/supervision@list.skarnet.org/msg01486.html * https://unix.stackexcha

Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

Greg Wooledge: > > Suppose you want to start DJB's daemontools from a locally created systemd > unit/service. Here's a file that will do that: > ... albeit poorly. If one wants to run daemontools under systemd, svscanboot is not the way; svscanboot is a thing of the past http://jdebp.eu./F

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

Nicolas George: > The process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and > adopts all orphan processes. Wrong. Indeed, it was the systemd people who drove the making it wrong. * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/177361/5132

Tiny Utility Toolkit for Tweaking Large Environments

Dan Ritter: > > Eventually we'll have to do the work, but the operations staff here has a > consensus that if we're going to do the work, we might as well go to a system > that we feel capable of understanding and trusting, something more like > daemontools. Nosh is being considered. > Hav

nosh version 1.33

The nosh package is now up to version 1.33 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ This has been held back because of work being done by someone else. I don't want to steal xyr th

djbwares version 5

djbwares is now at version 5. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ This contains some long-overdue changes: ip6.int has been replaced by ip6.arpa in tinydns-data and dnscache, and rblsmtpd no longer falls back to using an RBL that has been defunct for ma

Early boot became slower

Felix Miata: At what point exactly within either of those videos does 80 by 25 appear? All I saw anywhere appeared to be in the vicinity of 240 by 67. I think that I have put my finger on the source of your perplexity. Remember where M. Oss said the following? Mattia Oss: This can be s

nosh version 1.32

The nosh package is now up to version 1.32 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ This release fixes two problems with Gentoo Linux (control group version detection and a pr

Early boot became slower

Mattia Oss: This can be seen in the 3rd video. Lisi Reisz: By you. Not by me - nor apparently by Felix. It's really simple. It's the same size monitor. The "normal" characters are high resolution 24-bit colour graphics mode with 8*16 pixel glyphs, giving 240 columns by 67 rows. The "

nosh with Debian's sysstat package

Someone: I haven't installed much else yet on the system but I tried the sysstat package which gives me the following error: preset: ERROR: sysstat: No such file or directory I haven't yet investigated this problem. Sysstat seems to be part of the Debconf enable/disable system, I'm not

What in /var/logs shows system reboot?

Joe: Using strings /var/log/journal/*/* | grep debian-kernel [...] Or one could just use journalctl .

nosh version 1.31

The nosh package is now up to version 1.31 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ This release fixes a problem with emergency mode that was introduced by accident in 1.29 .

nosh version 1.30

The nosh package is now up to version 1.30 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ service bundles --- As usual, there are more service bundles, including for the U

systemd-journald fails to start due to corrupted /etc/machine-id (was: Re: systemd-journald fails)

Rainer Dorsch: But to my surprise even on a fresh install of the jessie image /etc/machine-id is already broken: root@scw-790923:~# cat /etc/machine-id 9d1b906dd5ea40359e2071d29c12aabe 71f root@scw-790923:~# But it seems the systemd version in jessie seems to be more tolerant against br

Re: systemd-journald fails

Rainer Dorsch: [ 20.704584] systemd[1]: Initializing machine ID from D-Bus machine ID. [ 20.916182] systemd-journald[2136]: Failed to open runtime journal: Invalid argument You need to look at at least two files, /var/lib/dbus/machine-id and /etc/machine-id . They should contain only a 12

Re: djbwares version 4

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: In celebration of the forthcoming leap second, djbwares is now at version 4. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ Jean Louis: http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares is not working: "access denied" and I ins

Re: systemd-journald fails

Rainer Dorsch: > I think this then results in errors during an apt-get upgrade: It does indeed. It is systemd-journald that resides at the server end of /dev/log on a systemd operating system. Quite a lot of other stuff will break for you if you don't have a running systemd-journald, because

Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

Greg Wooledge: Neither of those links talks about jessie's specific default script that waits for network interfaces to start. They do, however, explain what LSB has to do with things, which was what you wondered about. Greg Wooledge: Neither do they mention this "van Smoorenburg". Miguel

djbwares version 4

In celebration of the forthcoming leap second, djbwares is now at version 4. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ I've added in the rest of M. Bernstein's public domain libtai library, parts of which were already included by some of the tools. This ha

Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good]

Joe: A fair number of wheezy systems will be servers, upgraded many times. Mine started out as sarge. What are the odds of such a system making the change to systemd without problems? It depends. But my own experience is that *if they were already using systemd* on Debian 7, it was a cert

Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

Anonymous: The error message:"A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interface (xx sec/no limit)". Where xx is a count up in seconds that never ends. Greg Wooledge: "LSB" stands for Linux Standard Base [...] I don't know what LSB has to do with Debian's boot process waiting for the

Re: nosh version 1.29

Bloody Thunderbird! Here's that again, I hope without the surprise reformatting after pressing "send" this time: The nosh package is now up to version 1.29. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.in

nosh version 1.29

The nosh package is now up to version 1.29. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ There's been a lot going on since version 1.28 . 2016 leap second The TAI to UT

debian version ID

- the absolute need for minor version is small. Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: You are going to have to explain that to its manual page, which gives VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. Pascal Hambourg: This is obviously not a Debian version. Rather looks like Ubuntu. Th

Re: nosh version 1.28

I don't know why you asked about FreeBSD rc.d just on the Debian mailing list; but I'm going to deal in both of those and others besides, here, and things that apply across both, so I've re-included the FreeBSD mailing list. (-: 2016-08-14 15:10, Julian Elischer: I don't know if I just misse

Are Debian online manpages down?

Felix Miata: Only with that one particular URL. ... which is officially recognized. * https://debian.org/News/weekly/2013/19/index.en.html#manpages

debian version ID

Andrew M.A. Cater: /etc/os-release just contains major version You are going to have to explain that to its manual page, which gives VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. You're going to have to explain it to the Ubuntu people, as well; because they follow what the manu

Re: invoke-rc.d

André Majorel: Do you think the following would work on any Debian system, regardless of its current run level and choice of init system ? 1. run invoke-rc.d daemon-package stop 2. update config file 3. run invoke-rc.d daemon-package start Don't use invoke-rc.d yourself. The *old pre-system

nosh version 1.28

The nosh package is now up to version 1.28 . * https://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ There's a lot in this one: MySQL and MariaDB changes; more prophylaxis for Desktop Bus bus a

Re: Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: Untrue. The OpenRC people have had a tmpfiles utility since 2012. Michael Biebl: I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Can you post some more details? Where can I find the sources for that? Is it packaged for Debian? Here's the Gentoo OpenRC

How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

Michael Biebl: There are 3 kind of "timestamps": Access - the last time the file was read Modify - the last time the file was modified (content has been modified) Change - the last time meta data of the file was changed (e.g. permissions) Not on all flavours of Debian. Debian FreeBSD has 4.

How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

Michael Biebl: > Strictly speaking, the tmpfiles.d mechanism is not tied to a particular init. It's just that no-one has provided an implementation for non-systemd. Untrue. The OpenRC people have had a tmpfiles utility since 2012.

nosh and redo have moved

The whole sorry tale of why is on the new WWW site. The upshot of it is that nosh and redo are in a new place. * https://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ ** https://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/source-package.html ** https://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/freebsd-binary-packages.html ** https://jdebp.eu./Sof

Re: how to make systemd execute init.d script status statements?

Looks like systemd does not execute the statements in status) case of the init script at all, but just checks if the daemon process exists. My '/etc/init.d/ status' did much more, i.e., it checked if the daemon was actually able to do some real work. So far I have had no luck in finding the ans

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