Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

g should be under a millisecond. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re:Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

Gene writes: > Which is to fix the reason for a 30 second all system freeze of the > system when trying to access a file I own, or want to create, in my > /home/me directory. This happens only in that directory and only when you own the file? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: web browser recommendation

Greg writes: > looking at the HTML source with Ctrl-U, it's all one line. Seriously, > who does that? "Website builders" and "content management systems". Modern Web designers never deal with HTML. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: evolution recovery

By "mail provider" they mean the entity that operates the Internet-facing mail server that your mail comes and goes through. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

Richmond writes: > I see also in the build config for debian firefox esr it says: > --enable-official-branding That does not affect end users of Debian's Firefox in any way. It just means that Debian has permission from Mozilla to use the Firefox trademark. -- John Hasler j...@s

Re: Problem with /var

Maureen Thomas writes: > There are 15 files in Var and the biggest one is the cache file. Is > it safe to get rid of the contents of the whole file. It takes up 57% > of the drive. Run the command sudo apt-get clean That will remove the contents of that file. -- John

Re: where does the this file belong on a debian 12uptodateamd64system?

nd and putting it in /usr/local/bin. This is all documented on the prusa site and the flathub prusa page. To remove a flathub package type "sudo flathub uninstall ". -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: where does the this file belong on a debian 12uptodateamd64system?

me reason why the version of PrusaSlicer that is in the Debian archive is so unsuitable that you are willing to tolerate the shambling horror that is the flatpak system. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: where does the this file belong on a debian 12 uptodateamd64system?

I just now installed PrusaSlicer by installing the Debian flatpak package and following the instructions on the prusa site. The only perquisite I see is "sudo apt install flatpak". -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: where does the this file belong on a debian 12 uptodate amd64system?

, potentially incompatible sets of dependencies within the same desktop environment. . This package contains the services and executables needed to install and launch sandboxed applications, and the portal services needed to provide limited access to resources outside the sandbox. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

ctions apply if you open a Mozilla account and use things like "sync", obviously. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

the phrase. To them "debian-user" is a "forum". -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: no package management tool

looking for such shenanigans would be much inconvenienced by the absence of some commands. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

Try pdftotext. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: no package management tool

Most likely they simply removed everything not necessary for the thing to run in order to minimize memory requirements and gave it no more thought than that. They would see no reason that any end user would ever need any of those tools. To them it's an appliance, not a computer. -- John H

Re: fonts printing too thin from qpdfview

Evince works for me under FVWM (though I rarely use it). -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: About booting... and installing debian from your iso's

Testing", not "Unstable". -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

In the case of rsync Debian backported a fix. Therefor it gets the old version number with a suffix to indicate that Debian patched it. In the case of chromium upstream patched it and released the patched version with a new version number. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: What is going on with firefox

Roy J. Tellason, Sr. writes: > I run [both uBlock-origin and NoScript], here. Noscript being the > most recently added. It does make a nontrivial difference... Likewise. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: What is going on with firefox

r extension such as New Tab Suspender. It will unload inactive tabs, freeing memory and preventing JS from running. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Mass storage sizes

Tomas writes: > Past experience shows that we'll live with this for a while (watch > the US still on their Imperial measures, Pedanticism: The US is not and never has been on the Imperial system. We use both SI ("metric") and US Customary (the latter predates Imperial

Re: /dev/serial/by-id

Max Nikulin writes: > Gene, my congratulations. You have managed to derail the discussion > another time. And you have managed to clutter the list with yet another pointless rant against Gene. Please put him in your killfile and move on. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

=forking Restart=no TimeoutSec=5min IgnoreSIGPIPE=no KillMode=process GuessMainPID=no RemainAfterExit=yes SuccessExitStatus=5 6 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/fetchmail start ExecStop=/etc/init.d/fetchmail stop -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Firefox lockups with kernel 6.12.6

k them. There are several other tab unloaders such as Auto Tab Discard. You can also go to about:config, search for "memory", and adjust things like "browser.cache.memory.capacity" and "browser.tabs.unloadOnLowMemory". -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Firefox lockups with kernel 6.12.6

As an interim solution consider installing the "New Tab Suspender v2" extension: A very lightweight tab suspender to suspend inactive tabs that reduces an overall memory usage of firefox, uses a firefox native discard api -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: upgrade debian + postfix/dovecot

Thomas Anderson writes: > Almost all the applications I use are non-debian (postfix, dovecot, > apache, mysql, etc..) Why? All of those are in Debian. If you were using the Debian packages upgrading would be easy. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Writing passwords down

ot;password recovery secret" give them a random string for that as well. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Writing passwords down

e dog's name was Rover. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Writing passwords down

JHHL writes: > I *could* share my strategies for coming up with passwords. Mine is pwgen -s 12 -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Writing passwords down

at the name of the dog they had when they were 12 is an unguessable secret. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Writing passwords down

h request. Surely they can't be hashing the passwords properly if that practice is of any use. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Writing passwords down

One reason for writing down all your passwords (even if only on a list stored in your safe deposit box) is related to the item that started this thread: not making things difficult for whoever has to deal with your estate. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: a passwordless operating system

songbird writes: > perhaps because the accounts are jointly owned and it is much easier > to just continue using the credentials as they exist instead of having > to set everything up all over again for no real gain. Then follow Bruce Schneier's advice and*write them down*. --

Re: Firefox alternatives?

re sites no one has ever heard of, most of it just because it makes it easier for the web designers to animate their dancing doggies. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Subject: Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

Seems like you are going about this in the most difficult and roundabout way possible. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

less you ask for it. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

em in /usr/bin? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

It isn't Debian. It's that netblock. Try 191.97.36.54. Also try whois -r 191.96.36.54 -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

. I don't think it's a Debian problem. Have you tested using a different OS? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How can I install yum?

It appears that you are not subscribed to the list and therefor not seeing the replies. Go to lists.debian.org to subscribe and to see the rplies that have already been made. There is no yum package in Debian. What is it that you are actually trying to do? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com

Re: How can I install yum

Why do you want to? Yum is the package manager for Redhat-based distributions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yum_(software) -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

and JS that pull in chunks of JS from a dozen or more random sources out on the Net. The designers neither know nor care what that JS does as long as it puts the dancing doggie in right place on your screen. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How to can upgrade my BIOS?

Don't, if the one you have does everything you need it to do. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

Children are taught in elementary school that computer == Windows. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Reviving Usenet Was: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

Max writes: > Gnus (Emacs) should be a bit more than just text UI. Yes, of course Gnus: it's what I use. But there is no point in mentioning anything connected with Emacs when talking about enticing people away from Facebook et al even though it is actually quite easy to use these days.

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

now anyone with a laptop, a fixed IP (or IPV6) and Starlink or fiber could outperform IHNP4. I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could. Even easier might be a browser plugin. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: how2 format a flash drive

, and Twitter (and never use Windows, of course). -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

ke sure only your code ever reads it, though. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

lew the system time. > but at shutdown: writing to the RTC, and the correct preservation of > its state. You write to the rtc and to /etc/adjtime periodically at a rate determined by the computed hot drift rate and also during a controlled shutdown. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

Stefan writes: > The question remains: how to make use of that info upon wakeup to > adjust the "initial" time before NTP takes over. hwclock -a can do this. If you use it be sure ntpsec isn't trying to do the same thing. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

I wrote: > 12 Noon and 12 Midnight works. David Wright wrote: > Except that The Wanderer's "strictly correct" version, M for noon, > is out there in some pre-2008 documents. If you use M for noon you should use either AM or PM for midnight. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

. using "00:00 M", the notations for noon and > midnight would be identical.) 12 Noon and 12 Midnight works. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

Felix Miata wrote: > Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is > futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work > with debian mailing list posts. Quit using EL email. Use Pobox. Yes, it costs money. It's

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

Brad Rogers writes: > Due, mainly, to the literacy of the people that moved, rather than any > deliberate choice. That is, spelling was often a 'best guess'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster's_Dictionary#Noah_Webster's_American_Dictionary_of_the_English_L

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

JHHL writes: > Some of us still prefer physical media Do you mean read-only media? All media are physical. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

y the square root of 3 Here in rural Wisconsin the 7200V distribution line leaves the substation as three phases and a grounded neutral. This eventually branches out into three single phase lines consisting of a phase and a grounded neutral. The pole pigs are connected phase to neutral. -- Jo

Re: Cindex

https://www.opencindex.com/about-cindex/ -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: youtube-dl blocked?

to date with the original project. . yt-dlp is a small command-line program to download videos from YouTube.com and other sites that don't provide direct links to the videos served. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: What use can i give to linux?

. Linux has a large and growing share of the automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: making Debian secure by default

orted by one overworked guy who is taking patches from random strangers. NOTE: this is just a suggestion. I don't claim to be any sort of security expert nor am I trying to tell anyone what to do. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: making Debian secure by default

Joe writes: > I think this was amply demonstrated by Heartbleed, where the offending > code was examined by *one* other pair of eyes, before approval was > granted for inclusion in OpenSSL. The "many eyes" phase comes after release. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

nes I use most often through use. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

aracter password which you used to log on to the VAX via the VT100 in your cubicle. People would stick a slip of paper with their password on it under the keyboard where the janitor could get at it. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

Pierre-Elliott Bécue writes: > Writing down a password is a bad idea. Why? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

Use one of the password generating programs such as pwgen to produce a 12 character random password. Write it down. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

Pierre-Elliott Bécue writes: > A phrase you will easily remember but that would be hardcore to guess > through social engineering is perfect. Better is a random string that you write down. When people try to generate phrases that meet those requirements they usually fail. -- John Has

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

Look at the chronyd settime command and the chrony.conf makestep directive. These are intended for your situation. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: debian-devel wishlist "bugs"

https://wiki.debian.org/RFP -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: medically smart watches

cols. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: medically smart watches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How can we change the keyboard layout?

Greg writes: > To "change the keyboard layout" could mean either to select a > different layout, or to modify an existing layout. In fact, I think > *most* people would assume the former. I think the possibility of *altering* the keyboard layout would not even occur to mos

Re: Copy from Firefox and paste into Terminal with Vim

My .vimrc contains syntax on set mouse-=a And pasting works. VIM - Vi IMproved 9.0 (2022 Jun 28, compiled Nov 20 2023 16:05:25) Included patches: 1-2116 -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: chrony date months off

Max Nikulin wrote: > I think, the problem is no RTC on some *pi board, certainly chrony out of > box setup is not ready to such environment and its solution is not > maxstep. That's what makestep (initstepslew now being deprecated) is for. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: chrony date months off

Gene writes: > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to > the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? initstepslew man chrony.conf -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: in an object oriented world

m objects to be created that > are not verified and vetted then there are no viruses. Then there is no need for your verification process. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: in an object oriented world

Why should she believe it? > any process which does not respond should be thus cast into the outer > darkness of the bits and never to return (aka a virus or unauthorized > program). Malware can lie. A virus can infect an authorized program and use its credentials. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: I've an editable .pdf form I need to fill out

s a 403 because google > doesn't know WTH to do with localhost... I just tried that. No hijacking: works fine. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: I've an editable .pdf form I need to fill out

Greg Wooledge writes: > Chrome does not "hijack port 80". You can go to http://localhost:80/ > to talk to a local web server *just fine* in Chrome. And in Chromium. And in Firefox or Lynx when Chromium is running. Nothing's being hijacked. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: I've an editable .pdf form I need to fill out

Klaus writes: > Did you notice, that I was talking about the reduced, crippled OpenSource > browser: chromium In what way is it crippled? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: counting commas

Roy J. Tellason writes: > Where does that leave those of us that wrote c for CP/M? I wrote: > Or for MTS? Gene writes: > That, i've not heard of John, please expand. Michigan Terminal System. A multi-user OS running on the Amdahl 470V/6 at the University of Michigan. --

Re: counting commas

Roy J. Tellason writes: > Where does that leave those of us that wrote c for CP/M? Or for MTS? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: counting commas

r of both > languages, I think Perl is a much better choice than C for string > processing. Use SPITBOL. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: No Release file for Security Update

ERROR, id: 13855 ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;security-debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: security-debian.org.3600IN A 57.128.81.193

Re: No Release file for Security Update

Host gives me the same result. However, apt says: 0% [Connecting to security-debian.org (57.128.81.193)] and times out. Using "nameserver 8.8.8.8" changes nothing. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: No Release file for Security Update

Thomas George wrote: > I typed the above line exactly. apt-get update searches for > security.debian.org:80 [57.128.81.193] and times out, no connection Gene writes: > And that is not the address I get from here It's the one I get from here, and it times out. My DNS is working. -

Re: How to prevent rtkit from giving firefox higher priority?

and I think that this is the sort of stuff it is supposed to be for. Worth investigating. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How to prevent rtkit from giving firefox higher priority?

You may be able to prevent Firefox from getting increased priority by using polkit. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

nend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution

//datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8375 -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Donate money

Paypal. I don't like PayPal either but you won't find any way to do international transactions without dealing with obnoxious regulations. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Donate money

some other entity not currently > approved of by American foreign policy preference. The "know your customer" regulations are by no means a US-only phenomena. It's supposed to prevent "money laundering". -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: systemd-timesyncd

fected or malicious Web site. Quit using Google search. Use DuckDuckGo. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: SOLVED FOR GENE:Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

Try manpages.org . -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

r". man chrony.conf -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Content of /etc/ethers

ata file is very often /etc/ethers, but this is not official. If no filename is specified /etc/ethers is used as default. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: URLs in Mutt

Greg Wooledge: > It's been my experience that the hyperlinks I'm meant to click are so > long that they wrap around the terminal width multiple times. This > makes copy/pasting them tedious at best, and even then it still > sometimes fails for me. My wife has the same probl

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

Jeff writes: > I don't know why Z was used instead of UTC or GMT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time#Time_zones -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

ot affect your decision to use Yahoo or Hotmail for your > email service. Better to use a fee for service email provider such as Fastmail. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

city can deny a wireless provider the use of any city-owned land, but they cannot regulate radio transmission or reception. That is the exclusive jurisdiction of the FCC. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: lists

pocket writes: > I never implied that, only that the ISP services are spectrum only in the > area I live. No Starlik? In any case what ISP you use is unrelated to what email provider you use. I use pobox.com, but there are others. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

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