Re: Console fonts SOLVED :-)

2017-05-07 Thread GiaThnYgeia
That is great news I am now wondering instead of 7-10" screens if there is a tiny battery powered projector out there that you can use with it, as my tired old eyes find even my 21" tiring :) Now debian can add udoo to their architecture list from 9 onwards. 2 thumbs up Larry Dighera: > I gave u

Re: Jessie for Udoo X86?

2017-04-23 Thread GiaThnYgeia
ware-non-free root$ apt install misc-firmware-non-free If you find somewhere else a package in ***.deb format you use dpkg to install it after you download it. Keep us up to date Larry Dighera: > On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:30:00 +, GiaThnYgeia > wrote: > >> >> Larry Dighera:

FMIT KMail-Trinity

2017-04-23 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Lisi Reisz: > Or, in KMail-Trinity, left click on the address, et voilà! A _new_, > correctly > addressed message with a pristine subject line. > > Lisi Please don't say trinity it gets the matrix disturbed I turned my head and the shiskebap was gone kAt(s) > -- "The most violent element

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-21 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Joel Rees: > > I wish I didn't have to put my conspiracy theorist hat on here, but I > suspect that many in HP's management are fearful of upsetting the 800 > pound gorilla/elephant in the room. > > Neither Microsoft nor Intel seem to have any desire to understand > where the technology on which t

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-19 Thread GiaThnYgeia
The Wanderer: > On 2017-04-18 at 15:42, Brian wrote: > >> On Tue 18 Apr 2017 at 20:55:43 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> >>> Le 17/04/2017 à 22:46, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : >>>> >>>> I hope this makes some sense to someone. >>> >>&g

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Reco: > So, sooner or later, money come into play (aren't they always do?). The > important thing here for me is 'who pays', not 'who gets paid'. I mostly agree with your analysis but here I would add to the "who pays", "why are they paying" and "what exactly are they paying for" In most case

Re: Jessie for Udoo X86?

2017-04-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Larry Dighera: > I found the 'debian-8.7.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso' image here: > , burned it to > SD card in a USB reader with Rufus , and booted it > from USB on the Udoo X86 Advanced hardware (Intel quad-core Celeron N

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Richard Owlett: > 4. All installs in this thread have been done using DVD 1 of > 13 of Debian 8.6.0 - thus all intrinsically use the same > kernel. Is this with the actual dvd or the image of the 1st DVD on a usb-stick? I assume once everything was installed and rebooted there was an up

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Richard Owlett: > On 04/12/2017 12:13 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Le 12/04/2017 à 17:14, Richard Owlett a écrit : >>> >>> Whether initiated after power-on OR a restart the observed sequence is: >>> 1. Appearance of the Grub2 menu with a choice of 4 instances of Debian. >>> 2. Select instance in

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Lisi Reisz: > You do realise that Ron is the OP of this thread, and presumably even more > new > that yourself? Are you luring me down another irrelevant to the issue path? If you did not notice, instead of (me) being a smart-rear-end I already responded specifically to the OP with the 2 package

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Ron Bales: > Yeah just hope'n someone could get a line in This is an English users list, please translate hope'n for us dear! Old timers ganging up against the newbie is the oldest trick on the book to avoid responding to criticism. -- "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG "W

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Nicolas George: > L'octidi 28 germinal, an CCXXV, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : >> Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the Borg > > You realize Debian is not a person, right? You realize GiaThnYgeia is not a person either, right? I do

Re: Jessie for Udoo X86?

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Eduard Bloch: > Hallo, > * Larry Dighera [Sun, Apr 16 2017, 09:27:46PM]: >> >> The new Udoo X86 boards have just begun to ship: . >> >> Is anyone able to provide a link to the 64-bit Debian Jessie USB/SD >> installation ISO/img? > > Did you try the regular installer from USB

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the Borg Individuals will speak of Debian, they may be inside or outside Debian, but Debian only speaks through official directives in its one and only web page. No dialog, no comments, no responses. It is like planning to have coffee

Re: Almost all gpg2 operations hang after upgrade to stretch/testing

2017-04-13 Thread GiaThnYgeia
John Hasler: > I see no evidence that it does, nor do I see any reason why it would > bother. At least 99% of its users accept the cookies and scripts. Why > would it care about a few weirdos like me given that it wouldn't work > very well anyway? It is reporting on weirdos like you that paves

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-13 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Catherine Gramze: > /snip... I did not ask for advice on what to do, we are discussing the freedom of choice, remember? > Debian is not in the business of catering to the special needs of conspiracy > theorists, > but of looking to a technologically developing and progressing future and > makin

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-13 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Joel Rees: > kAt, write a novel. > > My dad used to tell me, if I wanted to change things, I'd have to > change them from the inside. It's a poor expression of the principle > because you can't get "inside" far enough without X, Y, or Z, and they > all make it very difficult to change things onc

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-12 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Maybe I started my explaining at the wrong end of the thread and I get reactions on a personal level about what I am and whether I have the right or reason to complaint. So I'll start from scratch. Let's say we have market players A B and C whose primary clients are government agencies that have

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-12 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Jonathan Dowland: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 04:40:00PM +0000, GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> As for the other post you commented on with the same attitude I would >> have to say that getting technical in comparing sysv with competing >> technologies does not answer the political part o

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-12 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Ric Moore: > On 04/12/2017 12:40 PM, GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> David Wright: >>>> Has Debian always been this crazy and am I so new to this madness? >>> >>> If you don't like it, you're free to look elsewhere for a distribution >>> that better

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-12 Thread GiaThnYgeia
David Wright: >> Has Debian always been this crazy and am I so new to this madness? > > If you don't like it, you're free to look elsewhere for a distribution > that better suits you. Are you mr.Debian? Under what authority are you telling me to either shut up or leave? What makes you more Debi

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-11 Thread GiaThnYgeia
xxx: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:21 AM, GiaThnYgeia >> Has Debian always been this crazy and am I so new to this madness? > > Moving the goalposts always generates a bit of madness. Whether this > time is turning out more so than previous times I'll leave for others >

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-11 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Felix Miata: > My opinion is that people who want ancient hardware to continue to be > supported for the longest possible period of time must participate in > the development phase by testing on the very hardware that they want to > stay working when it's hardware that developers either no longer

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-11 Thread GiaThnYgeia
deloptes: > songbird wrote: > >> did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log? > > I doubt he does know about it You doubt or you know? I knew about it but I did not check it. There are many logs on /var/log and its subdirectories. Can I interpret 3% of what they say? No! Do I need to in order to ins

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-10 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Please excuse the intrusion, on another thread Felix Miata says: Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie > Debian-user is a user support forum, not a developer forum: > For bug fixes and policy modifications debian-user is the wrong place > for more than

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-10 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC): > >> you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that >> I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is >> unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patc

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-10 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC): >> Felix Miata: >> Would this be IT? >>1 sudo nano /etc/default/grub >>2 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet iomem=relaxed" >>3 sudo update-grub > > It would be #1 below, the step to tak

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-10 Thread GiaThnYgeia
privileged users. To > allow this, set the sysctl: kernel.dmesg_restrict=0 > > > -- Ben Hutchings Sat, 29 Oct 2016 02:05:32 +0100 > > $ GiaThnYgeia: > Felix Miata: >> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC): >> >>> Felix Miata composed: >> >

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-10 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC): > >> Felix Miata composed: > >>> IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on >>> kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver >>> to work wit

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
GiaThnYgeia: > See attached file for complete lshw of the failed stretch upgrade > > Felix Miata: >> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 18:22 (UTC): >> >>> Felix Miata: >> >>>> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC): >>>> ... >>

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Felix Miata: > IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on > kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver > to work with your gfxchip in Stretch. Thank you for the help in answering the puzzle, but how is a semi-i-literate person able to translate t

if you have no swap in your installation this is what you do??? Why???

2017-04-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
A while ago while Thomas Schmitt was helping me with dd and xorriso in backing up systems and partitions into usb and back the issue of not having a swap partition in my system came up, since I chose not to during the installation, and how to create one, lead me into a search of doing just that. I

Re: info

2017-04-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
domenico cop: > hi. I am a consumer microsoft from little past to linux. You must be translating italian to english with googletranslate which explains why you make little sense. So you have been an MSwindows user and have only recently switched to linux, hopefully to debian. > but how much co

Re: [Stretch, 9.0] Installation failed to install net-tools (from scratch installation)

2017-04-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I thought that I had never seen an attachment on the list before but I was not sure. So here is the lazy output. (Power Management bus mastering PCI capabilities listing VGA compatible controller VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] [5333:8D04] S3 Graphics Ltd. [5333] 0 pci@:01:00.0 00 32 6600

Re: [Stretch, 9.0] Installation failed to install net-tools (from scratch installation)

2017-04-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I had a very weird experience yesterday on a machine with Stretch using firmware from misc-firmware to run a USB wifi stick. This worked before and it was shutdown functional and rebooted a few days later. I first noticed that in trying to find a network connection during boot it took a long time

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
See attached file for complete lshw of the failed stretch upgrade Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 18:22 (UTC): > >> Felix Miata: > >>> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC): >>> ... >>>> Still, if Debian8 runs why does Deb

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC): > ... >> This must be a 15y old machine, at least. I think it is a very early >> Celeron > processor with about 256k video memory. > > What do 'lspci | grep VGA' and/or 'inxi -c0 -v1'

Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I installed several times 8.7.1 LXDE and as soon as I forced Stretch on it it will boot up but will not bring up a graphic display. Attempts to revert and/or switch from LightDM to LXDM did not cure the problem. The second time I updated 8.7.1 to its latest and then tried to make the switch to Deb

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-04-01 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Lisi Reisz: > On Friday 31 March 2017 22:53:00 kAt wrote: >> As there is a domination of the >> industrial North and elitism against the dominated South. > > Not here The non-industrial white collar south-east dominates the > industrial north economically. The Northern Powerhub is so far a

Re: Wifi Drivers still not recognized by Debian, even when using Netinst

2017-03-19 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Dean Valentine: > Hi, I was having trouble contacting the mailing list on my other thread, so > I just started a new one. > > I have attempted to use both the live-iso and netinst iso with bundled > non-free drivers, but Debian still can't detect/load my wifi. To rehash, > > 1. I use an Acer As

Re: tor -- way OT

2017-03-19 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Latincom: > > Really nice post, thanks: > I have one [OT] question, i use Wheezy at work, but i tested Kodachi a > Debian derivative, and it took the HWID! Is it a security problem? Well, > a second question, are you saying, that when i use Tails, i must not > permit scrips? Some of those sys

Re: tor -- way OT

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Glenn English: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:19 AM, GiaThnYgeia > wrote: > >> READ THE MANUALS ;) :P (just kidding!) > > Wow! Thanks for so much advice from the list. > > > Everybody said to get rid of privoxy, so I did -- there was no privoxy > on the mac

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: >>> Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not? >> >> I use to have friends like you when I worked in boat yards and >> ships. They seemed to behave better while talking to someone with a 4" >> pipe wrench in hand. Is this what it is about? Not having a wrench >> around y

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: > On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: >>> >>> man apt-get >> >> It implies *BUT DOES _NOT_ STATE* the all the requested data is in the >> /var/lib/apt directory. > > Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not

Re: Netinstall of Debian 8 on DELL laptop fails

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Rinse out the cd with distilled water shake it like crazy and wipe it dry with the softest of all cotton cloths. If it is not working still recycle it. Use a USB stick to put the iso on, it will last much longer than the system will have any use. Do not use the live part for installations, just u

Re: tor -- way OT

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
READ THE MANUALS ;) :P (just kidding!) Various steps 1 About vpn and reaching the tor gate, your ISP may be able to see that you are reaching out to make a connection to the various gates/nodes and you may not want that, as ISPs are passing all personal information to big-Sister. And you "ma

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > co-operation of the user. To a well educated ms-windows or apfel-widows to try out and see whether they can live with debian, do you propose a couple of years of studying before they even try a live version? When one 1

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-15 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: > It is also just as easy to find > https://www.debian.org/CD/ > and then > https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ > which leads to > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ But he already mentioned this link > without any right clicking or rubbing out. > What rules are

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-13 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Very good information but the word sudo comes up everywhere. If a user does not have sudo rights she/he can back-up files and restore them as long as s/he has rights to what their backing-up/restoring. So if you are in a network public environment you may not even have rights to even your own disk

Apology to siduction 17.01 (was Re: why??why?why??)

2017-03-13 Thread GiaThnYgeia
got no response from them ... but I assume small teams of developers can't address everyone's complaints. GiaThnYgeia: > The past few Fridays it has become my joy for the weekend to install in > small drives some debian based distro ... I tried Q4os and siduction > ... the e

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-13 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I changed the rights 0755 to this lost+ and it got stuck to an other folder and contents that had only root/owner privileges So I decided to run the whole script as sudo or sudo xorriso and it seems the problem is solved. Should I attempt to rebuild it to a test disk to see if it reliable? Thoma

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-13 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I'll have to learn how to do this trick to (read the fine code of your email that is that scraps the rest) Thomas Schmitt: > ls -ld /media/user/sid/lost+found I ommitted some of the usual stuff with drwxr-xr-x (the C; is a joke of course for user@machinename) What is that + at .. root-dire

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-12 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > i wrote: >>> bunzip2 > GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> bunzip2 imagefile | dd of=/dev/sdb > > The small but decisive difference is the "<" in my example. My fault, I thought it was brackets to remind me to enter my own filename and

Re: [OT]Re: why??why?why??

2017-03-12 Thread GiaThnYgeia
The past few Fridays it has become my joy for the weekend to install in small drives some debian based distro ... I tried Q4os and siduction ... the experience has been a disastrous weekend over another ... I'm done playing with this stuff. I'm sticking with debian and all I'll play with from no

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-12 Thread GiaThnYgeia
is meaningless. Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> $ xorriso -indev sid1.iso -find / -exec lsdl -- >> ... >> drwxr-xr-x1 00 0 Nov 24 11:14 '/' >> On media this shows the 2nd system partition as a directory >> /media

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-11 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I am nearly giving up, can't understand what I am doing wrong or what I should be doing. Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> Is something wrong? >> -rw-r--r-- 1 user 458752 Mar 9 00:08 usb_part1.iso > > That's much too small for any bac

Re: why??why?why??

2017-03-10 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Shahryar Afifi: > > why o why... > why debian keeps getting fancier like other operating system. > debian is a linux machine, not some toy like apple. > we dont need gnome 3 taking too much ram, in fact we dont need any graphical > runtime. > they dont wanna support the poor wheezy for what ?

Re: why??why?why??

2017-03-10 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Jimmy Johnson: > On 03/10/2017 12:46 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 09:20:32 -0500 Henning >> wrote: >>> Why don't you just custom install to meet your needs? >> >> I did just that With Wheezy, 5 years ago. And I got the system I >> wanted. But it's not a "forever" solution.

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso | now xorriso help

2017-03-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > i forgot to adapt my xorriso example from a few days ago: > > xorriso \ > -for_backup \ > -outdev usb_part1.iso \ > -map /mnt/usb-Kingston_DataTraveler_3.0_08606E69C773BFC06965007B-0:0-part1 / Ok, my drive has grown from 1,7gB to about 2GB since the last try wit

Kerberos boot error - no log file

2017-03-08 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Anyone knows where this kerberos detailed log might be. I can't find it. Failed to start Kerberos 5 Key Distribution Center. See 'systemctl status krb5-kdc.service' for details. I found this on the boot.log And the following somewhere else: Mar 8 11:04:35 G0 systemd[1]: Starting Kerberos 5 Ke

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-08 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Hello, this is OP speaking :) Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > David Wright wrote: >> Forgive me for asking, but have you read the OP? > > Yep. It's a daredevil situation. "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead" I promise to be more cautious on my next life, maybe a cheetah laying in the sun all day. >

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-07 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> 2.1 Block by block, [...] erased data on >> an empty block can be recovered because they are not zero. Correct? > > If not the filesystem overwrote the content of deleted files > the problem will still be to find the

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-07 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I'd like to thank in advance ALL that responded, I think this is valuable for an archive of a manual for the nearly illiterate. Thomas Schmitt: > GiaThnYgeia wrote: >>> I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfilename.iso >>> The resulting image was the full size of the disk.

Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-06 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I can't locate any documentation that results into proper options. I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb of data on it. I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfilename.iso The resulting image was the full siz

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Greg Wooledge: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 06:31:46PM +, Joe wrote: >> Debian appears to use the group 'sudo' as an administrative group, >> where some other distributions use 'wheel'. >> >> I would not have thought that users would be added to it by default, >> there are no members on my sid/xfc

Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

2017-03-05 Thread GiaThnYgeia
ΟΚ! Gene Heskett: > On Sunday 05 March 2017 15:18:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > >> Back to shanity, how does a microphone produce an electrical wave that >> can be translated into sound and how a wave may take the form of >> electrical current that produces sound through a sp

Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

2017-03-05 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Curt: > > In case this wasn't clear: we're imagining clay being fashioned upon a > potter's wheel, and the striations that occur in the clay as it is > molded (which might possibly produce, according to Charpak's conjecture, > a sort of analog audio recording of ambient sounds in the finished > pr

Re: Recomended tutoial(s) on doing arithmetic in Bash scripts

2017-03-05 Thread GiaThnYgeia
It is Sunday and I don't like Mondays tell me why to...@tuxteam.de: > Hm. Neither expr nor bc are bash, they are "external" binaries. If you > want to do arithmetic in bash, there's $((...)): > > tomas@rasputin:~$ echo $(( (3+4)/3 )) > 2 I see your 2 and raise you nosuchagency@bottomofthesea

Re: [SOLVED = YES thnx2Frank] www.deb-multimedia.org testing or stretch Release' does not have a Release file

2017-03-05 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Luckily I have not used any package from them, no wonder it was so hard for me to include their rep. I guess I fell for it being included in the debian main mirrors before and thought it was an internal project that became autonomous. There is also an AV-linux distro for AV people, I don't know i

Re: [SOLVED = YES thnx2Frank] www.deb-multimedia.org testing or stretch Release' does not have a Release file

2017-03-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
SOLVED=YES LEARNING A NEW TRICK=YES YES YES Frank: > Op 04-03-17 om 16:59 schreef GiaThnYgeia: >> http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists testing Release' does not have a >> Release file >> >> The repository 'http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists testing Rel

Re: http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing or stretch Release' does not have a Release file

2017-03-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI: > On 04-03-2017 12:59, GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> GPG error: http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing InRelease: The >> following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not >> available: NO_PUBKEY 5C808C2B65558117 >> The repositor

http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing or stretch Release' does not have a Release file

2017-03-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
NEW thread, no a hijacked one, as I give up searching for what I may have done WRONG GPG error: http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5C808C2B65558117 The repository 'http://www.deb-multimed

Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

2017-03-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
are recorded by one's only true friend, the PC :)) :))) deloptes: > GiaThnYgeia wrote: > >> I don't see how the previous got linked to a previous thread so I am >> reposting with additional clarification. >> >> OK, I did some testing on an other machine with a

Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? AntiX

2017-03-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AntiX [antiX is a Linux distribution, originally based on MEPIS, which itself is based on the Debian stable distribution. It initially replaced the MEPIS KDE desktop environment with the Fluxbox and IceWM window managers, making it suitable for older, less powerful x8

Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

2017-03-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
The Wanderer: > On 2017-03-03 at 14:35, deloptes wrote: > >> The Wanderer wrote: >> >>> True, although someone who doesn't know that hitting Reply on an >>> existing message threads the reply in under the existing message >>> is unlikely to even know what message headers are, much less know >>> h

No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

2017-03-03 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I don't see how the previous got linked to a previous thread so I am reposting with additional clarification. OK, I did some testing on an other machine with a testing installation, downloaded FMIT (an instrument tuner that will pickup audio input/analog and tell you all kinds of stuff about the w

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

2017-03-03 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically. I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this installation it was firsts. I am made fun of having large fonts as I refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small print. I adjusted the menus,

No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

2017-03-02 Thread GiaThnYgeia
tes Reply-To: delop...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org GiaThnYgeia wrote: > How does one trace the inputs of the audio system? Basic hardware > configuration only shows usual mic input, but using FMT for example > after mic gets unplugged some sound input is getting recorded

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

2017-03-01 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Boy Microsoft10 and Office-Access and share all your data with the seattle bureau in a cloud and have no annoyance what so ever. Then pull the ethernet cable and see if your "purchased product" is still functional. Katrinity Richard Owlett: > On 02/28/2017 05:06 PM, Dominic Knight wrote: >> On Mo

Re: [solved] Re: No sound

2017-02-28 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Rodolfo Medina: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > I installed alsaplayer-alsa and pulseaudio and now I have sound, I don't know > thanks to which of the two. > > $ cat /etc/debian_version; uname -a > 9.0 > Linux lenovo 4.9.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.10-1 (2017-02-17) x86_64 > GNU/Linux 9.0 Linux Dell

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-02-28 Thread GiaThnYgeia
at is essential for the other users' packages. Live systems allow you to install whatever you like as they assume you are the root or sysadmin. At least that is how I understand security policy for this system. David Wright: > On Mon 27 Feb 2017 at 11:13:00 (+), GiaThnYgeia wrote: >&g

Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

2017-02-27 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Copied from a friend that dealt with such antiquities > On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 10:46:16 -0600 > Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 02/27/2017 09:44 AM, Joe wrote: >>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:53:30 -0600 >>> Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/27/2017 07:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > LibreOffice Base is

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-02-27 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Hans: > Hi, > I am just clickingin LXDE menu on the icon to start, then a popup menu opens > and asks for my password (the user password NOT root) and I can install just But is that user a member in the sudo group? I had to use root till I added the user to the group > Best > > Hans >> >> Wha

Re: The same environment variables everywhere

2017-02-27 Thread GiaThnYgeia
to...@tuxteam.de: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:07:19AM +0100, deloptes wrote: >> Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I would like to hear some ideas on how to set various environment > variables (PATH, MANPATH, EDITOR etc.) in one place that would make them > effective everywhere. My "everywhe

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-02-27 Thread GiaThnYgeia
testingAmd64LXDE I have never, not once, been able to run synaptic in any similar system without a root or a sudo password. Not to execute a command, just to get the gui up you need a password. I don't know whether creating a user with 100% admin privileges will still require a pass or not, I su

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

2017-02-25 Thread GiaThnYgeia
And you have not updated icedove/thunderchicken in the past 10 days I assume. If you have, how can you tell that this was the fix and was not in the update? Mattia Oss: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 04:40:44PM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32: >>> Daniel Ba

Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian

2017-02-25 Thread GiaThnYgeia
AMD64 is for 64bit Amd and Intel processors, i386 is a 32bit system for old pre64 architectures. So even though a 32bit will work on a 64bit system I have yet to find a good reason for doing so. The other way around wouldn't work. kat Rodolfo Medina: > ...Just curiosity: I installed debian-8.7.

Re: User Can Not Log In

2017-02-23 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Michael Milliman: > On 02/23/2017 10:47 AM, Dan Norton wrote: >> While playing around with Xfce, startx, and fvwm I've managed to >> clobber something such that the user can't log in. All attempts result >> in a fresh login box with my inputs removed. However, it is still >> possible to log in as r

Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian

2017-02-23 Thread GiaThnYgeia
On most Lenovo the boot menu is F12, see what this is telling you based on what you have. If F12 is not working, F11, or Fn according to this list https://craftedflash.com/info/how-boot-computer-from-usb-flash-drive should work Do you have a live linux dvd/usb Rescatux is relatively small and I be

Fwd: Re: bug report

2017-02-21 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I believe this is meant for the list and was sent to me instead for responding suggesting more details Forwarded Message Subject: Re: bug report Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:37:32 +0100 From: Thibault Roulet I'm using a USB3 docking station for HDD. (Sharkoon QuickPort USB 3) Du

Re: Did I blow my processor?

2017-02-21 Thread GiaThnYgeia
rhkra...@gmail.com: > On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 08:37:11 AM Dan Purgert wrote: >> GiaThnYgeia wrote: > ... >>> Never a good idea, there are cheap tools of measuring current, a short >>> can blow a good power source/transformer. How do you check industrial 3 >&

Re: Did I blow my processor?

2017-02-21 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Vignesh Ragupathy: > > There might also be an issue with power switch. You can try disconnecting > power switch and touch the power switch pins simultaneously with conductive > metal like screwdriver. Just careful when doing this. > > -Vikki Never a good idea, there are cheap tools of measuri

Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please..

2017-02-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I apologize for feeding the trolls, you may say I have a soft spot for strays. to...@tuxteam.de: > No. You don't define truth as "arithmetic means between realities", unless > you've convinced yourself the deviations follow a normal distribution. I liked this part better than any practical advise

Re: /etc/dhcp3 in jessie.

2017-02-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: > On Fri 17 Feb 2017 at 08:41:40 -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > >> During an update or upgrade this message surfaced. >> dpkg: warning: while removing resolvconf, directory >> '/etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d' not empty so not removed. >> dpkg: warning: while removing resolvconf, di

Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please..

2017-02-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Andre Müller: > Our destination is, that all people can live their life in freedom without > supporting war against other countries. People never want to have war. Yes but do you want equality? You give me half of your Euros I'll give you have of my Uruguayan pesetas. Then there will be no war,

Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please..

2017-02-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Lisi Reisz: > On Friday 17 February 2017 09:43:16 Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, at 04:30, Andre Müller wrote: >>> I'm sick of it and many >>> people in whole >>> Europe also. >> >> And as for the United States, do we not have the best Congress money can >> buy? > > No. But you

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

2017-02-16 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Paul van der Vlis: > On 15-02-17 15:56, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > See: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=828069 > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827267 > > With regards, > Paul van der Vlis Have you tried installing the debug part of ic

Re: Rie4wudu

2017-02-16 Thread GiaThnYgeia
now we can all get smart Mark Fletcher: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:29:39PM +0800, mkprint4u wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > Someone just broadcast their password to the world... > -- "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

2017-02-15 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Anthony Baldwin: > > > On 02/15/2017 11:05 AM, David Wright wrote: >> On Wed 15 Feb 2017 at 10:49:06 (-0500), Tony Baldwin wrote: > Thankfully, it rarely does it while I'm composing a message, that >>> would REALLY annoy me, >> >> If you compose in an editor like emacs, it auto-saves perio

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

2017-02-15 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Paul van der Vlis: > Hello, > > Many peope (not all) have problems because Icedove crashes since an > update last year. Icedove on my laptop with Debian stable crashes random > about one time per week. > > I have many customers with Debian stable and oldstable. Most of them > have problems with a

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