On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 11:11:11PM +0200, Anders Andersson wrote:
[...]
> The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my
> (limited) experience [...]
> For specific questions it may be better to try the stack exchange
> network, which is designed for that purpose [...]
Interest
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 05:53:34 +0300
Osama Albahrani wrote:
> Dear Debian Users,
>
> Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial
> boot screen, the trackpad/keyboard do not work on a 2017 MacBook Pro
> (Intel-based). However, they work with the GNOME live iso and I was
> t
Bug has been reported:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110007.
Those with a MacBookPro14,1 or a similar device, do the trackpad/keyboard
work with the installer iso or did you need to use external devices (or the
live media) to install Debian?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 6:09 AM Os
Ok, I reviewed https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages and it seems
like the proper package is "cdimage.debian.org".
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 5:53 AM Osama Albahrani wrote:
> Dear Debian Users,
>
> Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial boot
> screen, the trackpa
Dear Debian Users,
Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial boot
screen, the trackpad/keyboard do not work on a 2017 MacBook Pro
(Intel-based). However, they work with the GNOME live iso and I was then
able to install just fine. But I'd like it if they worked in the ins
Ooops, meant to send to (or at least include) list:
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From: Michael Paoli
Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: How to ask a question?
To: Richard Owlett
Why of course ask the smart way!
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Uhm, yeah,
Uhm, yeah, alas, far too often lists get hit with such requests.
Below I copy boilerplate response (alas, as a listadmin) to seeing far
too many such requests (e.g. emails to listadmins, or posts (or
attempted posts) to lists, much etc.), plus with that, just some
modest changes to make it (more)
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 04:01:53PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:29:59 +0200 Geert Stappers wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 03:14:54PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> > > Well, I seem to have kea up and running, or so journalctl indicates.
> > >
> > > I set up a minimal n
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:29:59 +0200
Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 03:14:54PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> > Well, I seem to have kea up and running, or so journalctl indicates.
> >
> > I set up a minimal network, and there are link lights. kea did get a
> > query from a test d
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 03:14:54PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> Well, I seem to have kea up and running, or so journalctl indicates.
>
> I set up a minimal network, and there are link lights. kea did get a
> query from a test device, but as far as I can tell never responded.
>
> Any ideas?
Yes
Well, I seem to have kea up and running, or so journalctl indicates.
I set up a minimal network, and there are link lights. kea did get a
query from a test device, but as far as I can tell never responded. Any
ideas?
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On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 5:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> More explicitly:
> How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by
> distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum?
>
> Why do I ask?
> In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially
> "W
Richard Owlett wrote:
> More explicitly:
> How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by
> distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum?
>
> Why do I ask?
> In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially
> "Why are you trying to do?" rathe
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 08:10:11PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Vim has the ability to use Gtk+3, but when you install vim, you do not
> see apt trying to pull Gtk+3 too: Debian builds several variants of the
> package with various options enabled or disabled.
>
> The same thing would be po
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 20:48:14 +0200
john doe wrote:
> Just thinking out loud, why don't you use Dnsmasq for everything?
An interesting thought. If this gets too frustrating, I'll look into it.
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 17:49:56 +
Andy Smith wrote:
> If it has the ability to use MySQL/MariaDB, PostgreSQL and LDAP then I
> don't see how in Debian it can avoid depending upon their libraries.
kea can indeed use either MySQL or PostresSQL, but you don't have to.
The documentation says you ca
On 7/27/25 19:36, Charles Curley wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 16:07:01 +
Andy Smith wrote:
How are you finding use of kea, in general? I too will have to make
the move at some point.
Frustrating.
I was able to run keama to convert from isc-dhcp to kea. But I haven't
found any general advi
Andy Smith (HE12025-07-27):
> If it has the ability to use MySQL/MariaDB, PostgreSQL and LDAP then I
> don't see how in Debian it can avoid depending upon their libraries.
Vim has the ability to use Gtk+3, but when you install vim, you do not
see apt trying to pull Gtk+3 too: Debian builds several
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:28:36PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Andy Smith (HE12025-07-27):
> > How are you finding use of kea, in general? I too will have to make the
> > move at some point.
>
> Speaking for myself (but agreeing with a few friends), I say I do not
> want tu run this monste
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 16:07:01 +
Andy Smith wrote:
> How are you finding use of kea, in general? I too will have to make
> the move at some point.
Frustrating.
I was able to run keama to convert from isc-dhcp to kea. But I haven't
found any general advice on "if you hit this problem, do this"
Andy Smith (HE12025-07-27):
> How are you finding use of kea, in general? I too will have to make the
> move at some point.
Speaking for myself (but agreeing with a few friends), I say I do not
want tu run this monster:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
ca-certificates kea-common ke
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility
> {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum?
As a long time lurker, occasional poster: You can't.
One large part of asking questions on practical p
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 09:39:03AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> > https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/kea/-/issues/245
>
> Bingo. Thank you.
How are you finding use of kea, in general? I too will have to make the
move at some point.
Thanks,
Andy
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 00:25:03 -0400
Todd Zullinger wrote:
> I know very little about Kea, but I guessed that was a
> reference to an issue or a merge request. The kea project
> is on gitlab, so pulling up their issues and viewing 245
> looks like it's what they refer to:
>
> https://gitlab.i
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 10:09:05AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > Now I have to relearn how to extract specific content from spreadsheets.
> > Something I haven't done in close to two decades.
>
> What I usually ended up doing w
Greg Wooledge (HE12025-07-27):
> What I usually ended up doing was opening the spreadsheet in Libre Office,
> then saving it as a "CSV" (comma-separated values) file. I'm not aware
> of any way to do that purely from the command line.
I have in my notes somewhere:
libreoffice --headless --conver
On 7/27/25 05:33, Richard Owlett wrote:
More explicitly:
How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by
distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum?
Why do I ask?
In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially
"Why are you trying to do?"
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Now I have to relearn how to extract specific content from spreadsheets.
> Something I haven't done in close to two decades.
What I usually ended up doing was opening the spreadsheet in Libre Office,
then saving it as a "CSV" (comma-s
> Why do I ask?
> In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially "Why
> are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly
> focused question.
Sometimes the "Why" you might get in return is misguided
(e.g. paternalistic), but I think in the present case it's becaus
On 2025-07-27, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> But *THE* question remains.
> How to ask narrowly focused questions which will get answers in this forum?
It's quite difficult because many of the people who answer questions
here really don't care about your question, they only care about their
answer.
S
Hi Richard,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> More explicitly:
> How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility
> {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum?
Asking good questions is not easy. You've got to wrap your brains around
More explicitly:
How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by
distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum?
Why do I ask?
In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially
"Why are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly
Glen Wetzel (HE12025-07-27):
> The xterm openssl script does not exemplify the problem since it does not
> exercise graphics I/O. The issue is that the Xorg task is being starved
> when screen application tasks are at the same or higher priority level than
> the Xorg task.
Precisely. Now remember
> No, it is not: you had xterm and it subprocess eating all your CPU and
> nothing happened.
The xterm openssl script does not exemplify the problem since it does
not exercise graphics I/O. The issue is that the Xorg task is being
starved when screen application tasks are at the same or high
Glen Wetzel (HE12025-07-26):
> 1.* Tried this command on an xterm:
>
> $ for i in $(seq 50) ; do openssl speed & done
>
> Whether the renice was applied to the Xorg task or not, the screen does not
> lock up and I can successfully pkill. So, no problem.
Nice.
> *3.* The problem observed is
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