FTR, this issue has been resolved. Somehow ntpsec got lost
during the upgrade from Bookworm to Trixie. With ntpsec
back in place the warnings are gone.
Regards
Harri
From: Jeffrey Walton
Sent: Monday, June 2, 2025 23:13
To: Darac Marjal
Cc: debian-user@li
On Mon 02 Jun 2025 at 21:28:50 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> > On 6/2/25 2:03 PM, Van Snyder wrote:
>> > > On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> > >> I'm over 80. My only phone just died.
>> > >> I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set
On 3/6/25 06:15, Van Snyder wrote:
>> I've been using okular for many years, mostly because it's part of the
>> standard Debian install. Version 22.12.3 is the one I currently have.
>>
>> Lately when I do a search or click a link to another page, it doesn't
>> display the correct page. Is this a
On Mon 02 Jun 2025 at 21:28:50 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 6/2/25 2:03 PM, Van Snyder wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > >> I'm over 80. My only phone just died.
> > >> I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set whic
On 3/6/25 06:15, Van Snyder wrote:
I've been using okular for many years, mostly because it's part of the
standard Debian install. Version 22.12.3 is the one I currently have.
Lately when I do a search or click a link to another page, it doesn't
display the correct page. Is this a known bug? O
I've been using okular for many years, mostly because it's part of the
standard Debian install. Version 22.12.3 is the one I currently have.
Lately when I do a search or click a link to another page, it doesn't
display the correct page. Is this a known bug? Or is it a feature?
Thanks for mentioni
On 3/6/25 03:44, Richard Owlett wrote:
If RETIREMENT isn't for learning, "What use is it?"
I believe that the whole of life is an education, for people willing to
learn.
"The more we know, the more we know the little we know."
..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 14:44 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> After my initial post, I discovered readability of the dim grey type
> was
> in some sense easier when blew up image further by choosing "Fit
> Width"
> rather than "Fit Height" in Atril.
Try settings like +200% in Okular.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 5:05 PM Darac Marjal wrote:
>
>
> On 02/06/2025 12:49, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo
> > (managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle:
> >
> > Warning: http://debian.example.com/debia
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 2:24 PM BST, Anssi Saari wrote:
I certainly don't want both parallel and parallel.moreutils in
/usr/bin. How many more files would need to be added in /usr/bin to
satisfy all possible conflicts?
What OP wishes for is a stable path to a moreutils binary, from one or
the oth
Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 6/2/25 2:03 PM, Van Snyder wrote:
> > On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> I'm over 80. My only phone just died.
> >> I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule
> >> 5"x7" manual.
> >> Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of ma
On 6/2/25 2:25 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Perhaps, for the hardcopy manual, buying a pair of reading glasses
might help.
I think it's safe to assume that people above 50 years old know about
reading glasses. 🙂
ROFL - Been wearing tri-focals since my 30's.
Also have wicked astigmatism correct
On 6/2/25 2:03 PM, Van Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm over 80. My only phone just died.
I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule 5"x7"
manual.
Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of manuals.
*HOWEVER* only BOLD text is in a saturat
On 3/6/25 03:25, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Perhaps, for the hardcopy manual, buying a pair of reading glasses
might help.
I think it's safe to assume that people above 50 years old know about
reading glasses. 🙂
Stefan
Sometimes, the obvious might not occur to us.
Due to a persistent
> Perhaps, for the hardcopy manual, buying a pair of reading glasses
> might help.
I think it's safe to assume that people above 50 years old know about
reading glasses. 🙂
Stefan
On 3/6/25 02:39, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm over 80. My only phone just died.
I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule 5"x7"
manual.
Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of manuals.
*HOWEVER* only BOLD text is in a saturated image.
All other text is in a marginally readable p
On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm over 80. My only phone just died.
> I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule 5"x7"
> manual.
> Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of manuals.
>
> *HOWEVER* only BOLD text is in a saturated image.
> All other text i
I'm over 80. My only phone just died.
I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule 5"x7"
manual.
Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of manuals.
*HOWEVER* only BOLD text is in a saturated image.
All other text is in a marginally readable pale grey.
Is the a PDF reader in Debian
On 02/06/2025 12:49, Harald Dunkel wrote:
Hi folks,
trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo
(managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle:
Warning: http://debian.example.com/debian/dists/trixie-backports/InRelease:
Policy will reject signature within a ye
On 6/2/25 11:27, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 3:34 PM BST, Titus Newswanger wrote:
In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI
monitor, maybe like others suggested, a dummy connector. A search on
places like Amazon for "HDMI dummy plug" finds a lot of opt
Dear Debian developers,
I would like to express my deepest possible appreciation to you. Why?
Because Debian is one of The most robust and stable Linux distributions
today available.
If user install some Debian version which have been classified as stable
release, eveRy user can be sure, tha
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 3:34 PM BST, Titus Newswanger wrote:
In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI
monitor, maybe like others suggested, a dummy connector. A search on
places like Amazon for "HDMI dummy plug" finds a lot of options. To be
honest, I had not realized su
On 6/2/25 06:47, Joe wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:57:23 +0100
"Jonathan Dowland" wrote:
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote:
Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly
called Raspbian) allows headless use.
The issue (for those machines that have it) is not t
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 08:56:05 -0500
David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 02 Jun 2025 at 10:33:57 (+0200), Frank Guthausen wrote:
> >
> > From some old legacy configuration [...]
> > ``Aptitude::Recommends-Important'' [...]
> >
> > The manpage [...] claims the
> > option to be `` APT::Install-Recommends''
On 6/2/25 09:05, Fred wrote:
The original poster said he "did not see at all" and didn't want to
waste the monitor power consumption.
Sorry, I overlooked that. I was so thinking "headless server"...
In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI
monitor, maybe like other
On Mon 02 Jun 2025 at 10:33:57 (+0200), Frank Guthausen wrote:
> I use ``aptitude'' with configuration below ``/etc/apt/''.
>
> From some old legacy configuration and an online manpage[1] recommended
> packages are included or excluded by ``Aptitude::Recommends-Important''
> option when using ``ap
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 10:33:57 +0200
Frank Guthausen wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I use ``aptitude'' with configuration below ``/etc/apt/''.
>
> From some old legacy configuration and an online manpage[1]
> recommended packages are included or excluded by
> ``Aptitude::Recommends-Important'' option when us
On 2/6/25 21:47, Joe wrote:
I mention the OS in case an alternative (there are) did demand a
monitor. Both ends of HDMI certainly know whether the other end is
connected, many sources will not power up unless they see a live
sink, and sinks will usually not fully power the interface unless they
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:57:23 +0100
"Jonathan Dowland" wrote:
> On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote:
> > Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly
> > called Raspbian) allows headless use.
>
> The issue (for those machines that have it) is not the OS: it's the
Stanislav Vlasov wrote:
> > Or unfortunately, firmware will recognize this fact automatically and
> > will not allow me to load GRUB and boot The kernel:?
>
> It's your bios settings, not Debian issue.
>
> > I do not see at all so I want to use 20 Watts energy comsumption with no
> > need to use
On 6/2/25 00:29, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate
Mate? Am I correct, that is a desktop environment?
I don't know anything about mate. With some d.e., If you configure
networking etc in a gui while logged into a d.e. then remove monitor an
On Mon, Jun 02, 2025 at 13:49:05 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo
> (managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle:
>
> Warning: http://debian.example.com/debian/dists/trixie-backports/InRelease:
> Policy wil
Federico Kircheis writes:
> I could not find any information if something like the following has
> already been proposed (and eventually rejected):
>
> moreutils should also provide /usr/bin/parallel.moreutils, even if gnu
> parallel is not installed(!)
>
> gnu parallel should also provide /usr/b
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote:
Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly
called Raspbian) allows headless use.
The issue (for those machines that have it) is not the OS: it's the
firmware (artist formerly known as BIOS). If that does not support
headles
пн, 2 июн. 2025 г. в 13:35, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel :
>
> Dear users and developers,
> I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini
> PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to
> provided HDMI output connector.
Always or after install?
Default install
On 2/6/25 20:46, Charles Curley wrote:
You will need a monitor to install, and then some way of administering
the machine afterwards, typically an SSH server.
Many SBC do not have a monitor tor start with. It is not a problem to
have them start up with a SSH server to administer, or at worst
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 07:29:53 +0200
"Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" wrote:
> I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on
> mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected
> to provided HDMI output connector.
You did not say which mini-PC you are considering, so on
I am booting various mini-pc without a display and it is working. I've
had good success with Minisforum brand.
The UXX branded one (cost less than $100 USD)(I can't find a model
number on it) has very buggy Bios firmware. Not even an option to
auto-start upon powerup, I always have to start it
Hi folks,
trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo
(managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle:
Warning: http://debian.example.com/debian/dists/trixie-backports/InRelease:
Policy will reject signature within a year, see --audit for details
Audit: http://deb
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 10:46:05 +0100
"Jonathan Dowland" wrote:
> On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 6:29 AM BST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
> > Dear users and developers,
> > I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on
> > mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor
> > con
Gilles Mocellin wrote:
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>
> Le dimanche 1 juin 2025, 19:38:17 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Chris Green a
> écrit :
> > Gilles Mocellin wrote:
> > > Le dimanche 1 juin 2025, 12:11:05 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Chris
> >
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 6:29 AM BST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
Dear users and developers,
I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini
PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to
provided HDMI output connector.
It depends on the specific machin
Hello.
I use ``aptitude'' with configuration below ``/etc/apt/''.
From some old legacy configuration and an online manpage[1] recommended
packages are included or excluded by ``Aptitude::Recommends-Important''
option when using ``aptitude''.
The manpage of an installed system `´man aptitude'' cl
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