Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 09:02:03PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > thanks You are welcome :-) > i understand the no host hash in an industrial setting > but in a home network it seems unnecessary Well -- there are mixed cases. In my

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Anssi Saari
xuser writes: > No virtualization?, my 15 year old dell e6500 has it. As I recall, Intel has played with virtualization support a lot. Disable virtualization on some low end CPUs just to piss people off. Or really, to "differentiate the different product lines" or some such marketing bullshit.

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 16 May 2025 18:56:11 -0400 Default User wrote: > Fun fact: I use rsync to do backups to and external usb hard drive. If > the external drive is not connected, rsync will, without any notice, > proceed to create a backup directory under /media, with the name of > the unconnected backup dri

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Default User
Hi. Thanks for the replies! Concerning the points raised: 1) sudo df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/nvme0n1p2 23G 8.7G 13G 41% / /dev/nvme0n1p5 1.8G 140K 1.7G 1% /tmp /dev/nvme0n1p6 199G 53G 136G 28% /home /dev/nvme0n1p3 9.1G 2.9G 5.8G 34% /var /dev/

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 11:50:41AM +0100, Richmond wrote: > /var can grow significantly over time due to logs, databases, and other > persistent services, so I can understand why someone might put it on its > own partition. When we're talking about single user workstations and laptops though,

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread fxkl47BF
On Fri, 16 May 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 06:32:16PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> On Fri, 16 May 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > >>> There is an (sshd, I think) option to change that. >> >> i see >> >> Alternately, hostnames may be stored in a has

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 16:39:15 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > > numeric and names > > where do they come from > > Assuming you are using bash (or another shell that does TAB > completion) I think it's probably ju

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 06:32:16PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > There is an (sshd, I think) option to change that. > > i see > > Alternately, hostnames may be stored in a hashed form which hides host names > and addresses should

Re: inadyn client

2025-05-16 Thread Klaus Singvogel
sa...@laurenz.ws wrote: [..] > Mai 16 18:55:59 mailsrv01 inadyn[1605690]: Cannot read configuration file > /etc/inadyn.conf > > Mai 16 18:55:59 mailsrv01 inadyn[1605690]: Error code 74: Missing .conf file Permission problem. Look at the permissions of /etc/inadyn.conf and compare them with _syst

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread fxkl47BF
On Fri, 16 May 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 04:09:10PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > [...] > >> as an aside >> in known_hosts there are many key fingerprints with no host identification >> is there a way to identify what host the fingerprint is for > > The fi

Re: Shell function.

2025-05-16 Thread peter
From: Greg Wooledge Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 11:41:00 -0400 > Why are you setting the DISPLAY variable? # Cannot parse arguments: Cannot open display: wasn't usable. > ... at best, it's only viable in a very specialized setup. Correct. A specialized setup and I'm working on a better so

Re: Shell function.

2025-05-16 Thread peter
From: Greg Wooledge Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 11:41:00 -0400 > Why are you setting the DISPLAY variable? # Cannot parse arguments: Cannot open display: wasn't usable. > ... at best, it's only viable in a very specialized setup. Correct. A specialized setup and I'm working on a better so

Re: inadyn client

2025-05-16 Thread john doe
On 5/16/25 19:04, sa...@laurenz.ws wrote: inadyn[1605265]: No IP# change detected for custom, still at 84.165.63.18 As far as I understand it, everything is fine. You should see a different MSG would the IPv4 change. -- John Doe

Re: inadyn client

2025-05-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 07:04:43PM +0200, sa...@laurenz.ws wrote: > Moin, Moin das ist eine englischsprachige Liste. Die wenigsten Menschen hier können Deutsch, möglicherweise willst Du diese hier: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/ (Mit inadyn kenne ich mich leider gar nicht aus, s

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 04:09:10PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: [...] > as an aside > in known_hosts there are many key fingerprints with no host identification > is there a way to identify what host the fingerprint is for The file format is described in man 8 sshd. Those with "no host

Re: Re (2): Shell function.

2025-05-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 11:41:00AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:05:50 -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Currently have this. > > ev () { /usr/bin/evince "$@" & } > > > > DISPLAY is set in .bashrc now. Not needed in trivial functions. > > Why are you setting the DISP

inadyn client

2025-05-16 Thread samba
Moin, ich probiere mich gerade an inadyn. Per cmd-line funktioniert es, also service nicht…. inadyn -l 10 -n -1 -f /etc/inadyn.conf inadyn[1605265]: In-a-dyn version 2.10.0 -- Dynamic DNS update client. inadyn[1605265]: Cached IP# 84.165.63.18 for from previous invocation. inad

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread fxkl47BF
On Fri, 16 May 2025, Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2025 14:56:41 + > fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > >> when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host >> numeric and names >> where do they come from >> > > If I type 'ssh' I get proposed tab completions of various > programs, all s

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Fri, 16 May 2025 11:50:41 +0100 Richmond wrote: > > Recently I created a virtual machine with qemu and virt-manager, and > unknown to me by default it creates the virtual disk in /var. As this > was not on its own partion but in the same as / it happily filled the > root partition and I got in

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread basti
Hello, first of all they come from ~/.ssh/config and there includes, if there. Or they come from /etc/hosts. Best Regards, On 16.05.25 16:56, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host numeric and names where do they come from

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread Chris Green
fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > numeric and names > where do they come from Assuming you are using bash (or another shell that does TAB completion) I think it's probably just a list of file and directory names in the current directory. Try doi

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 16 May 2025 14:56:41 + fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > numeric and names > where do they come from > If I type 'ssh' I get proposed tab completions of various programs, all starting with ssh. If I type 'ssh' I get proposed IP addr

Re: Re (2): Shell function.

2025-05-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:05:50 -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Currently have this. > ev () { /usr/bin/evince "$@" & } > > DISPLAY is set in .bashrc now. Not needed in trivial functions. Why are you setting the DISPLAY variable? That sounds like a really bad idea. Or, at best, it's only vi

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread Dan Ritter
fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > numeric and names > where do they come from Assuming that your shell is bash, it comes from the bash tab completion function, which has an optional package: bash-completion/stable,now 1:2.11-6 all programmabl

Re (2): Shell function.

2025-05-16 Thread peter
From: 🦓 Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 18:23:59 +0200 > you might wanna background it from your tty Currently have this. ev () { /usr/bin/evince "$@" & } DISPLAY is set in .bashrc now. Not needed in trivial functions. Thx,... p. -- VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 work: en.wikibooks.or

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-15, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > It's less clear how useful the current wiki is for users. I think many > of us are inspired by how good the Arch Wiki is for users, and the > Debian wiki falls far short of that. I guess we should try to improve it > for users, but we don't have consen

ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread fxkl47BF
when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host numeric and names where do they come from

Re: Shell function.

2025-05-16 Thread peter
From: Will Mengarini Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 10:07:19 -0700 > ... evince can display multiple URLs ... Hadn't noticed that. Revised to this. ev () { /usr/bin/evince "$@" & } Thx, ... p. -- VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 work: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

Re: Shell function.

2025-05-16 Thread peter
From: Lee Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 13:02:27 -0400 > quoting $1 Revised to this. ev () { /usr/bin/evince "$@" & } Thx, ... p. -- VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 work: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread xuser
No virtualization?, my 15 year old dell e6500 has it. On Thu, 15 May 2025, Default User wrote: Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 17:30:51 -0400 From: Default User To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Preparing for Debian 13 Resent-Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 21:31:19 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@

Re: Dell wifi switch

2025-05-16 Thread xuser
Yes youre right the switch is faulty. On Thu, 15 May 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 09:54:50 +0700 From: Max Nikulin To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Dell wifi switch Resent-Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:21 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org On

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 5/15/25 03:52, Jonathan Dowland wrote: It's less clear how useful the current wiki is for users. I think many of us are inspired by how good the Arch Wiki is for users, and the Debian wiki falls far short of that. I guess we should try to improve it for users, but we don't have consensus on

Why is my VM image so large?!

2025-05-16 Thread Celejar
Hi, I have a QEMU / KVM VM running Windows that has been running as a guest on various Debian hosts for about a decade. The Windows OS has undergone various repairs and reinstalls over the years. I was recently quite surprised to discover that the VM image size (actual size on disk, not apparent s

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Richmond
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > It's a bit late at this point, but why did you split your installation > into different partitions, fixed partitions no less, on a laptop with a > single disk? That's the sort of thing you do with a server where you > have RAID, LVM, and possibly other advanced storag

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 16 May 2025 10:11:04 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Thu May 15, 2025 at 5:45 PM BST, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > one of the problems I see in the world of GNU/Linux is this > > tendency to have "per-distribution" documentation for thing which > > are not specific to a distribution, as

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 16 May 2025 09:34:30 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 05:30:51PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.  > > Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current  > > (2023) low-end Dell laptop.  > > Intel Cor

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 05:30:51PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Hi. > > I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.  > Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current  > (2023) low-end Dell laptop.  > Intel Core i3 processor.  > 8Gb ram. > UEFI booting. > Internal nvme SSD, 256 Gb, for

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 15, 2025 at 2:33 PM BST, Dan Ritter wrote: The most prominent issue I can see is that there is no unified sense of chronology. That is, I can look at a page and not have any idea whether it is correct for current Stable. Thank you. That is useful feedback, and I agree that we should

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 15, 2025 at 5:45 PM BST, Stefan Monnier wrote: one of the problems I see in the world of GNU/Linux is this tendency to have "per-distribution" documentation for thing which are not specific to a distribution, as evidenced by the fact that Debian users often find the Arch wiki useful.

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Anssi Saari
Default User writes: > Since Debian 13 should soon be released, what should I be doing  > ahead of time to prepare for the upgrade? For me, upgrading is  > always a major hassle, so I try to make it as easy as possible. The release page is here: https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ There'