Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 05:21:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 5/11/24 04:35, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > > > On November 4, 2024 12:21:38 PM Bret Busby wrote: [...] > > Chromium also? Just asking > https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/12/chromium_api_system_information/ Thanks for that link

Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
Someone mentioned NetSurf recently here and I'm trying it out. It's an interesting "halfway" point between TUI browsers like Lynx/EWW, and monsters like Firefox. But I'd like to be able to send URLs to NetSurf and can't figure out how to do it. Am I missing something? Say you'd like to install i

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Arbol One
MHO, it works just like it does on MS-OS. So, we prefer FF and, for off-work, Brave. On 2024-11-04 11:21 a.m., Eric S Fraga wrote: Response below/inline for email Hwa Peer wrote: (original email sent 4 Nov 2024 at 20:15) Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? I would be hap

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 5/11/24 04:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 04:21:07 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: Microsoft Edge is currently based on Chromium (the "Blink" engine); it used to be based on Internet Explorer (the "Trident" engine). Assuming that you're not trying to run the old version (e.g. you'r

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 5/11/24 04:35, Peter Ehlert wrote: On November 4, 2024 12:21:38 PM Bret Busby wrote: On 5/11/24 02:24, Darac Marjal wrote: On 04/11/2024 12:15, Hwa Peer wrote: Hello list, Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? I would be happy to hear your viewpoints on this app.

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Peter Ehlert
On November 4, 2024 12:21:38 PM Bret Busby wrote: On 5/11/24 02:24, Darac Marjal wrote: On 04/11/2024 12:15, Hwa Peer wrote: Hello list, Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? I would be happy to hear your viewpoints on this app. Microsoft Edge is currently based on C

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 04:21:07 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Microsoft Edge is currently based on Chromium (the "Blink" engine); it > > used to be based on Internet Explorer (the "Trident" engine). Assuming > > that you're not trying to run the old version (e.g. you're not trying to > > use Active

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 5/11/24 02:24, Darac Marjal wrote: On 04/11/2024 12:15, Hwa Peer wrote: Hello list, Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? I would be happy to hear your viewpoints on this app. Microsoft Edge is currently based on Chromium (the "Blink" engine); it used to be based on I

Re: Minimalist HTML 4 viewer available?

2024-11-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/11/24 23:26, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 4 Nov 2024 09:36 -0500, from monn...@iro.umontreal.ca (Stefan Monnier): Frames were current up through HTML 4[7] but are non-conformant in HTML 5[8], although interestingly enough still described[9]. Not sure if we're talking about the same "frames"

The Debian 12 failed installation saga - conclusion

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
Firstly, thank you everyone who tried to help, it was much appreciated, even if it maybe didn't sound like it (I was getting a bit frustrated). As I reported, removing the second disk drive (a 2TB SATA SSD), allowed me to to the install with no problems at all. I had installed the drive when the s

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On 04/11/2024 12:15, Hwa Peer wrote: Hello list, Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? I would be happy to hear your viewpoints on this app. Microsoft Edge is currently based on Chromium (the "Blink" engine); it used to be based on Internet Explorer (the "Trident" engine)

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 04/11/2024 12:15, Hwa Peer wrote: Hello list, Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? I would be happy to hear your viewpoints on this app. Thanks. Why???

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 12:17 PM Chris Green wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 08:31:41AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > [...] > > Is a BIOS update available? > > > Possibly, but I bet I'd need an MS-Windows system to do the update. This situation sucks. My father has an Acer laptop like it -- the

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
I have found how to get it to install, I removed the other (SATA SSD) disk drive. It now boots successfully, phew! I've no idea why that second drive breaks things. I installed it when I was still running xubuntu 24.04 and that OS could see the drive OK. I actually copied the whole of my old (xu

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
I have found how to get it to install, I removed the other (SATA SSD) disk drive. It now boots successfully, phew! I've no idea why that second drive breaks things. I installed it when I was still running xubuntu 24.04 and that OS could see the drive OK. I actually copied the whole of my old (xu

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Chris Green wrote: > > (proc) (memdisk) (lvm/q957--vg-swap_1) (lvm/q957--vg-root) (hd0) > > (hd0,apple2) (hd0,apple1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd1) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) > > (hd2,msdos5) (hd2,msdos1) David Wright wrote: > So hd0 is the USB stick. Looks like that. Apple Partition Map is not much in use on a

Re: Minimalist HTML 4 viewer available?

2024-11-04 Thread Hans
Hi, I do not know, if this is what you are searching for, but take a look at bluegriffon https://www.bluegriffon.org Also (if it must not the super modern tool), you can try "kompozer" or its successor "NVU" (but I believe, NVU is only for MAC and Windows). You searched for "small", but small

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Eric S Fraga
Response below/inline for email Hwa Peer wrote: > (original email sent 4 Nov 2024 at 20:15) > > Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? > I would be happy to hear your viewpoints on this app. I installed it on one system because I have to use Teams for work and Teams would not

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Felix Miata
Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 15:27 (UTC): > (proc) (memdisk) (lvm/q957--vg-swap_1) (lvm/q957--vg-root) (hd0) > (hd0,apple2) (hd0,apple1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd1) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) > (hd2,msdos5) (hd2,msdos1) On all my GPT disks, the required ESP filesystem is on (hd0,gpt1). Presumably your ESP

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 11:19:50AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > If I boot from the USB stick (isohybrid image) in Legacy mode then it > > all **appears** to work, installation completes, but then the system > > won't boot. > > What kind of boot loader did you install? `grub-efi`, `grub-pc`, >

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread David Wright
On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 09:41:36 (-0600), David Wright wrote: > On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 15:27:44 (+), Chris Green wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 09:09:31AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 12:36:18 (+), Chris Green wrote: > > > > This continues from my "Failed Debian 1

Re: Minimalist HTML 4 viewer available?

2024-11-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> Frames were current up through HTML 4[7] but are non-conformant in >>> HTML 5[8], although interestingly enough still described[9]. >> Not sure if we're talking about the same "frames", but uMatrix has >> a column dedicated to frames and I see it used fairly frequently for >> captchas and onlin

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If I boot from the USB stick (isohybrid image) in Legacy mode then it > all **appears** to work, installation completes, but then the system > won't boot. What kind of boot loader did you install? `grub-efi`, `grub-pc`, something else? Does your Debian install's boot fail in exactly the same wa

Re: Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 9:22 AM Chris Green wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 11:10:03AM +, Chris Green wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:34:49AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > It's usually a good idea to disable CSM support (legacy/MBR booting), by > > > whatever > > > term your p

Re: Open links in existing browser window, not in current workspace

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 10:16:39AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2024-11-04 at 10:03, Chris Green wrote: > > > When I click on a web link in a terminal window I want the link to > > open in my existing browser window (which is usually on a different > > workspace). > > > > In my new[ish] Debi

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread David Wright
On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 15:27:44 (+), Chris Green wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 09:09:31AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 12:36:18 (+), Chris Green wrote: > > > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > > > today. > > > > > > I can't get t

Re: Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread David Wright
On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 11:16:06 (+), Chris Green wrote: > ... and if "Launch CSM" is disabled then when I boot from the Debain > 12 USB stick I just get dropped into the grub menu and I can't do an > install. Can you describe the menu. We can't see over your shoulder. Also, can you type c

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 09:09:31AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 12:36:18 (+), Chris Green wrote: > > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > > today. > > > > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > > installation proc

Re: Minimalist HTML 4 viewer available?

2024-11-04 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 4 Nov 2024 09:36 -0500, from monn...@iro.umontreal.ca (Stefan Monnier): >> Frames were current up through HTML 4[7] but are non-conformant in >> HTML 5[8], although interestingly enough still described[9]. > > Not sure if we're talking about the same "frames", but uMatrix has > a column dedicat

Re: Open links in existing browser window, not in current workspace

2024-11-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-04 at 10:03, Chris Green wrote: > When I click on a web link in a terminal window I want the link to > open in my existing browser window (which is usually on a different > workspace). > > In my new[ish] Debian 12 installation a new browser window pops up > in the current workspace w

Re: Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 09:14:09AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 11:16:06 (+), Chris Green wrote: > > ... and if "Launch CSM" is disabled then when I boot from the Debain > > 12 USB stick I just get dropped into the grub menu and I can't do an > > install. > > Can you desc

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread David Wright
On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 12:36:18 (+), Chris Green wrote: > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > today. > > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB > stick in UEFI mode i

(SOLVED) Re: USB device not mounting

2024-11-04 Thread D. R. Evans
D. R. Evans wrote on 11/3/24 15:13: I have a USB device that has always worked fine in the past, but now I can no longer access it when it is plugged in to my bookworm systems. (I last used the device a couple of weeks ago.) I am an idiot (although somewhat in my defence, there is no mention o

Open links in existing browser window, not in current workspace

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
When I click on a web link in a terminal window I want the link to open in my existing browser window (which is usually on a different workspace). In my new[ish] Debian 12 installation a new browser window pops up in the current workspace which I find very annoying. It used to work the way I want

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 08:53:02AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I suspect that this is why, when I boot from the USB stick in BIOS > > compatibility mode the resulting installation doesn't work. > > Last time I did an install on a UEFI machine (most of my machines are > too old, and of the two

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 08:31:41AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 12:36 (UTC): > > > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > > today. > > > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > > installation process when I

Re: Minimalist HTML 4 viewer available?

2024-11-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Frames were current up through HTML 4[7] but are non-conformant in > HTML 5[8], although interestingly enough still described[9]. Not sure if we're talking about the same "frames", but uMatrix has a column dedicated to frames and I see it used fairly frequently for captchas and online credit car

Re: Minimalist HTML 4 viewer available?

2024-11-04 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 4 Nov 2024 19:30 +0800, from b...@busby.net (Bret Busby): >> Yes, later versions of HTML have _added_ quite a lot of stuff, and >> perhaps slightly changed the default _semantics_ of some; but very >> little has been _removed_. (One biggie might be , which was >> deprecated as of HTML 4.01[1] an

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I suspect that this is why, when I boot from the USB stick in BIOS > compatibility mode the resulting installation doesn't work. Last time I did an install on a UEFI machine (most of my machines are too old, and of the two that aren't, one is running Coreboot 🙂), I found out that if the installa

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Felix Miata
Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 12:36 (UTC): > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > today. > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB > stick in UEFI mode it just takes

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Felix Miata
Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 12:36 (UTC): > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > today. > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB > stick in UEFI mode it just takes

Re: [solved, more] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-04 Thread Dan Purgert
On Nov 02, 2024, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: pe...@easthope.ca > Date: 27 Oct 2024 11:26:12 -0700 > > Rather than spend more time investigating, will put the HDD in the > > target machine and work there. Remove some of the complications. > > Happened to connect a USB hub before deal

Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier today. I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB stick in UEFI mode it just takes me to the grub prompt. I suspect that this is why, when I

Edge on debian

2024-11-04 Thread Hwa Peer
Hello list, Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? I would be happy to hear your viewpoints on this app. Thanks.

Re: Minimalist HTML 4 viewer available?

2024-11-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/11/24 18:56, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 4 Nov 2024 06:00 +, from a...@strugglers.net (Andy Smith): Installing 20+ year old software just to make sure it can never parse HTML5 is total lunacy. There will be no support community for such a thing for a start, so any problem you have is goi

Re: Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 11:10:03AM +, Chris Green wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:34:49AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > It's usually a good idea to disable CSM support (legacy/MBR booting), by > > whatever > > term your particular UEFI BIOS labels it. > > > The BIOS has "CSM Configur

Re: Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:34:49AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > It's usually a good idea to disable CSM support (legacy/MBR booting), by > whatever > term your particular UEFI BIOS labels it. > The BIOS has "CSM Configuration", if I go into that I'm offered:- Launch CSM Boot option fil

Re: Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:34:49AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 10:03 (UTC): > > > I just tried to install Debain 12 onto my Fujitsu Esprimo Q957 system > > (was running xubuntu previously). I have installed Debian 12 using > > the same USB stick on two other sys

Re: Minimalist HTML 4 viewer available?

2024-11-04 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 4 Nov 2024 06:00 +, from a...@strugglers.net (Andy Smith): > Installing 20+ year old software just to make sure it can never parse > HTML5 is total lunacy. There will be no support community for such a > thing for a start, so any problem you have is going to be a showstopper. Also, it shoul

Re: Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 10:03:15AM +, Chris Green wrote: > > The whole installation ran without any problems but it simply fails to > boot, I just get a blank black screen with a prompt at the top left > cormer. > I just tried a second time (new install from scratch) and the result is the sam

Re: Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread Felix Miata
Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 10:03 (UTC): > I just tried to install Debain 12 onto my Fujitsu Esprimo Q957 system > (was running xubuntu previously). I have installed Debian 12 using > the same USB stick on two other systems so the installation media are > OK. > The whole installation ran

Failed Debian 12 install, need help with boot loader re-install

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
I just tried to install Debain 12 onto my Fujitsu Esprimo Q957 system (was running xubuntu previously). I have installed Debian 12 using the same USB stick on two other systems so the installation media are OK. The whole installation ran without any problems but it simply fails to boot, I just ge