Re: Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jim Anderson wrote: > I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the > behavior of the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 > has the annoying habit, upon reaching end of the file, of > displaying extra empty lines to fill a terminal window, > then inserting the text: > >   (END)

Re: popcon use?

2024-10-14 Thread Will Mengarini
* Lee [24-10/12=Sat 17:07 -0400]: > The bit with zless was worth the post. I'd been doing zcat foo.gz | more See `man lesspipe` for an even easier approach, allowing 'less foo.gz' to Just Work.

Re: Online ML Search Tool

2024-10-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 20:16:09 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 09:30:56AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > AFAICT: > > > > Not a lot has been indexed from debian-user since about > > March/April. > > Has anyone asked listmas...@debian.org about that yet? My post was cc'd to li

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/10/2024 00:55, Lee wrote: $ apt search linux-image | grep installed To check kernel version use uname -a I'm not seeing an updated realtek firmware in backports: $ apt search realtek apt policy firmware-realtek or at least apt list -a firmware-realtek Anything else I

Re: Streaks on screen. maybe OT

2024-10-14 Thread FJD
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, gene heskett wrote: Thank you for the information! NP. That is a given for someone with a CET after his sig. Actually, after watching the video, I'm less convinced. Don't want to squander your time, and I know nothing about the electronics but could you just hint what is

Re: Streaks on screen. maybe OT

2024-10-14 Thread FJD
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, gene heskett wrote: On 10/14/24 09:17, FJD wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, FJD wrote: I've switched the cable a couple of times. I just switched out the cable and used a different one. Streaky blurry darker screen. I should add or clarify that it seems to improve considera

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-10-14, Lee wrote: > $ ls -l rt*| grep 8822 Check if your firmware is in /lib/firmware/rtw88/ and not in /lib/firmware/ This is what I have # ls -l /lib/firmware/rtw88/ total 740 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20290 5 sept. 23:30 rtw8703b_fw.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23074 5 sept. 23:30 rtw

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread George at Clug
On Tuesday, 15-10-2024 at 02:43 Bala Personal wrote: > I did not get any suggestions from anyone, or am i missing any emails? Bala, I did receive your email. Just I don't know how to reply and thought others would do a much better job of replying than I could. I have installed Debian many ti

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread George at Clug
Lee, I do not have a solution for you, but as you likely found via Internet searches, you are not alone in having issues with this Realtek device/driver. Like you suggested, I too once installed Linux Mint Ubuntu to a laptop to get over hardware issues. Hopefully the Realtek driver developers

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Lee
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 4:31 PM Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:47:14 +0100 > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:30:22 +0100 > > Joe wrote: > > > > Hello Joe, > > > > >In Synaptic, there is a Repositories menu entry under Settings, where > > >new entries can be made and existin

Re: Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 15:09:48 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 14:38:36 (-0400), Jim Anderson wrote: > > I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the behavior of > > the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 has the annoying habit, > > upon reaching end of the

Re: Online ML Search Tool

2024-10-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 09:30:56AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > AFAICT: > > Not a lot has been indexed from debian-user since about > March/April. Has anyone asked listmas...@debian.org about that yet? As a workaround, third party archives are available, e.g. https://www.mail-archive.c

Re: Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 14:38:36 (-0400), Jim Anderson wrote: > > I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the behavior of > the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 has the annoying habit, > upon reaching end of the file, of displaying extra empty lines to fill > a terminal windo

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 10:29:30 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:39:13 -0400 Lee wrote: > > > At least the laptop still boots. > > > > I booted from the Ubuntu USB stick and copied > > rtw8822c_fw.bin.zst > > rtw8822c_wow_fw.bin.zst > > This is why I suggested the backp

Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-14 Thread Jim Anderson
I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the behavior of the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 has the annoying habit, upon reaching end of the file, of displaying extra empty lines to fill a terminal window, then inserting the text:   (END) at the end of file. This re

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:30:22 +0100 Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >In Synaptic, there is a Repositories menu entry under Settings, where >new entries can be made and existing ones disabled, matching the >commenting in sources.list. Yes there is. Yet I /still/ find it easier to create the repos in a tex

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 1:00 PM Lee wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 9:17 AM Charles Curley wrote: > > [...] > > Booting UEFI vs. BIOS should not be relevant here. > > Isn't UEFI booting supposed to prevent loading firmware from unsigned sources? > Which is what I'm going to have to do if the firm

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Lee
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 12:45 PM Lee wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 12:30 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:39:13 -0400 > > Lee wrote: > > > > > At least the laptop still boots. > > > > > > I booted from the Ubuntu USB stick and copied > > > rtw8822c_fw.bin.zst > > >

Re: Streaks on screen. maybe OT

2024-10-14 Thread gene heskett
On 10/14/24 09:17, FJD wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, FJD wrote: I've switched the cable a couple of times. I just switched out the cable and used a different one. Streaky blurry darker screen. I should add or clarify that it seems to improve considerably after a couple of minutes. This is a

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Lee
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 12:30 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:39:13 -0400 > Lee wrote: > > > At least the laptop still boots. > > > > I booted from the Ubuntu USB stick and copied > > rtw8822c_fw.bin.zst > > rtw8822c_wow_fw.bin.zst > > This is why I suggested the backport r

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/10/2024 22:39, Lee wrote: reboot and it looks like the 9.9.15 firmware loads but wifi is still broken 🙁 Try to install newer kernel from bookworm-backports apt update apt install linux-image-amd64/bookworm-backports I do not use synaptic, so I can not tell you what button acts like "apt

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:39:13 -0400 Lee wrote: > At least the laptop still boots. > > I booted from the Ubuntu USB stick and copied > rtw8822c_fw.bin.zst > rtw8822c_wow_fw.bin.zst This is why I suggested the backport rather than copying in the file. Please back these changes out, then try th

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:14:09 +0530 Bala Personal wrote: > I did not get any response from any, or am i missing anything to read? If you are subscribed to the list, you should have received a reply from me. I replied to the list. List-Subscribe:

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Bala Personal
I did not get any response from any, or am i missing anything to read? On 14/10/24 20:37, David Wright wrote: On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 15:25:20 (+0100), Joe wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:35:25 +0530 Bala Personal wrote: On 12/10/24 09:56, Bala Personal wrote: Hello, I’m a moderate Linux user a

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Bala Personal
I did not get any suggestions from anyone, or am i missing any emails? On 14/10/24 20:37, David Wright wrote: On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 15:25:20 (+0100), Joe wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:35:25 +0530 Bala Personal wrote: On 12/10/24 09:56, Bala Personal wrote: Hello, I’m a moderate Linux user a

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Lee
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:04 AM David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 07:09:22 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > I have a Lenovo G3 laptop running Debian 12 with wi-fi that works for > > minutes at a time. > > > > I've tried a lot of suggested changes to /etc/modprobe.d but none have > > fix my wi-

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 15:25:20 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:35:25 +0530 > Bala Personal wrote: > > On 12/10/24 09:56, Bala Personal wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I’m a moderate Linux user and I recently installed Debian with XFCE > > > using the expert installation option. The i

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 07:09:22 (-0400), Lee wrote: > I have a Lenovo G3 laptop running Debian 12 with wi-fi that works for > minutes at a time. > > I've tried a lot of suggested changes to /etc/modprobe.d but none have > fix my wi-fi problem. > One post I saw said their laptop worked when they tri

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On October 14, 2024 8:53:17 AM CDT, Lee wrote: >On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 9:17 AM Charles Curley wrote: >> >> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:09:22 -0400 >> Lee wrote: >> >> > My laptop is set to do a UEFI boot [?? I really don't know the proper >> > terms]. Is there a "proper" place to get firmware from

Re: Online ML Search Tool

2024-10-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 10:12:54 (+0100), Yassine Chaouche wrote: > The ongoing discussion about "Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7" can't be > found using the online search tool at > https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=Updating+from+Debian+9.13+to+12.7&DEFAULTOP=and&B=Gdebian-user&SORT=&HITS

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Joe
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:35:25 +0530 Bala Personal wrote: > On 12/10/24 09:56, Bala Personal wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I’m a moderate Linux user and I recently installed Debian with XFCE > > using the expert installation option. The installation was > > successful, but I’m experiencing issues duri

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Bala Personal
Gentle reminder for the below concern. On 12/10/24 09:56, Bala Personal wrote: Hello, I’m a moderate Linux user and I recently installed Debian with XFCE using the expert installation option. The installation was successful, but I’m experiencing issues during login. When I attempt to boot in,

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:53:17 -0400 Lee wrote: > Looks like no. > I added > deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main > non-free-firmware to /etc/apt/sources.list, fired up Synaptic Package > Manager & hit Reload. The "New in repository" shows several > firmware-xxx lines but not

Re: Streaks on screen. maybe OT (fwd)

2024-10-14 Thread FJD
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Stefan Monnier wrote: Not much of a film director but here a short video of the phenomenon. Ah, that doesn't looks like a software problem, indeed. Yeah, and a couple of minutes it almost completely goes away though I note the screen is darker than normal. Just ordere

Re: Streaks on screen. maybe OT

2024-10-14 Thread Kent West
On 10/14/24 8:44 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Not much of a film director but here a short video of the phenomenon. Ah, that doesn't looks like a software problem, indeed. Stefan Yeah, that seems like a hardware problem. Two thoughts: 1) Boot off a live USB stick; that eliminates curr

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Lee
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 9:17 AM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:09:22 -0400 > Lee wrote: > > > My laptop is set to do a UEFI boot [?? I really don't know the proper > > terms]. Is there a "proper" place to get firmware from or should I > > just get it off the Ubuntu USB stick? > >

Re: Streaks on screen. maybe OT

2024-10-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Not much of a film director but here a short video of the phenomenon. Ah, that doesn't looks like a software problem, indeed. Stefan

Re: Streaks on screen. maybe OT

2024-10-14 Thread FJD
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, FJD wrote: I've switched the cable a couple of times. I just switched out the cable and used a different one. Streaky blurry darker screen. I should add or clarify that it seems to improve considerably after a couple of minutes. Also after I begin to run the t.v. softw

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:09:22 -0400 Lee wrote: > My laptop is set to do a UEFI boot [?? I really don't know the proper > terms]. Is there a "proper" place to get firmware from or should I > just get it off the Ubuntu USB stick? > And once I get the firmware, what do I have to do to get Debian to u

Re: Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7

2024-10-14 Thread Dan Purgert
On Oct 13, 2024, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 10/13/2024 04:57 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 08:27:55AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > It has been my habit since days of Squeeze to install the new Debian to a > > > fresh fresh partition and then use Grub to chose which

How to load new firmware?

2024-10-14 Thread Lee
I have a Lenovo G3 laptop running Debian 12 with wi-fi that works for minutes at a time. I've tried a lot of suggested changes to /etc/modprobe.d but none have fix my wi-fi problem. One post I saw said their laptop worked when they tried Ubuntu Live. Same here! My laptop is set to do a UEFI boot

Re: Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7

2024-10-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/13/2024 12:29 PM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 06:11:17 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: I want to reproduce the visual environment I've developed over the years. In other words, you face the same choice that we all do when it's time to leave an old faithful installation behind: upgrade

Online ML Seach Tool

2024-10-14 Thread Yassine Chaouche
The ongoing discussion about "Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7" can't be found using the online search tool at https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=Updating+from+Debian+9.13+to+12.7&DEFAULTOP=and&B=Gdebian-user&SORT=&HITSPERPAGE=10&xP=updating%09debian%099.13%0912.7&xFILTERS=Gdebian-user%7

Re: firmware failed to load nouveau/nv98_fuc084

2024-10-14 Thread Anssi Saari
kamaraju kusumanchi writes: > My machine is rebooting randomly. To find out what is going on, I > looked at dmesg and found these errors. How can I fix them? If you > need extra information, please let me know which command I need to run > and I will provide its output. There may be hints as to