Re: Problem with Xfce4 Applications Menu

2023-12-13 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 13.12.2023 00:40, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just bumbled my way thorough reinstalling v 12.4.0 on my main Linux platform and have managed to mangle the Xfce4Applications Menu by somehow misusing MenuLibre. Some how the contents of some of the subdirectories have been shifted to an

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:33:15AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > Perhaps I'm reading it incorrectly, but I still feel it's wise to wait > a little while and see if any more problems pop up, if stability is > important to you. I also salute the courage of those who've tested > these recent

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my > /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that > wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 9:58 PM Pocket wrote: > > On 12/13/23 21:47, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 7:55 PM Pocket wrote: > >> What formats does certs need to be to work with update-ca-certificates? > >> > >> PEM or DER? > > PEM > > Ok since I am using an intermediate cert to s

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread David Christensen
On 12/13/23 15:33, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~$ time dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/gene/zero bs=1M count=100 oflag=sync 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB, 100 MiB) copied, 0.935655 s, 112 MB/s real    0m0.940s user    0m0.000s sys 0m0.254s Thank you for providin

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 21:50, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 09:34:37 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: You don't have to be your own CA. It's very easy to use letsencrypt to generate valid certificates for hosts even if they are not directly connected to the internet. Oooh, is there a writeup som

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 21:47, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 7:55 PM Pocket wrote: What formats does certs need to be to work with update-ca-certificates? PEM or DER? PEM Ok since I am using an intermediate cert to sign, I am creating a combined PEM with the root CA and the intermed

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 09:34:37 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > You don't have to be your own CA. It's very easy to use letsencrypt > to generate valid certificates for hosts even if they are not > directly connected to the internet. Oooh, is there a writeup somewhere on how to do that? The last time

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 7:55 PM Pocket wrote: > > What formats does certs need to be to work with update-ca-certificates? > > PEM or DER? PEM > I have just finished writing some scripts to generate certs for my email > server and nginx server. > > [...] > Will pem format type certs work? Yes.

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 20:25, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 07:54:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: What formats does certs need to be to work with update-ca-certificates? PEM or DER? I have just finished writing some scripts to generate certs for my email server and nginx server. The scrip

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 20:34, jeremy ardley wrote: On 14/12/23 08:54, Pocket wrote: I have just finished writing some scripts to generate certs for my email server and nginx server. The scripts allow me to become my own CA. You don't have to be your own CA. It's very easy to use letsencrypt to

Re: broadcast error messages, unofficial Debian 12

2023-12-13 Thread Alan Corey
Thank you, I'd never heard of Zutty before this Debian turned up using it as a default terminal. Normally I use rxvt, on trying harder rxvt and xterm both installed and don't seem to have the problem. At first I thought I was running under Wayland so I was maybe stuck with Zutty. But there's no

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/12/23 08:54, Pocket wrote: I have just finished writing some scripts to generate certs for my email server and nginx server. The scripts allow me to become my own CA. You don't have to be your own CA. It's very easy to use letsencrypt to generate valid certificates for hosts even

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 07:54:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > What formats does certs need to be to work with update-ca-certificates? > > PEM or DER? > > I have just finished writing some scripts to generate certs for my email > server and nginx server. > > The scripts allow me to become my own CA.

update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
What formats does certs need to be to work with update-ca-certificates? PEM or DER? I have just finished writing some scripts to generate certs for my email server and nginx server. The scripts allow me to become my own CA. The man page states that the cert needs to have a suffix of .crt. B

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willingtowait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread gene heskett
On 12/13/23 16:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 02:19:07PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 12/13/23 13:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Hi Gene, Respectfully, if I were you, I might consider tearing

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread gene heskett
On 12/13/23 16:30, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wants to open a file on it, is subje

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:29:44PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/your/home/dir/zero bs=1m count=100 The above and the other dd invocation should have 'bs=1M'. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 02:19:07PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/13/23 13:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > > Hi Gene, > > > > Respectfully, if I were you, I might consider tearing down one machine

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my > /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that > wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at least 30 se

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willingtowait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread gene heskett
On 12/13/23 14:08, Dan Ritter wrote: Pocket wrote: Many reasons If the RAID controller bites the bullet you are usually toast unless you have another RAID controller (same manufacturer and type) as a spare. None of these controllers are self contained raids, it is all by mdadm and f

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willingtowait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread gene heskett
On 12/13/23 13:56, Tom Furie wrote: gene heskett writes: It is a separate 6 port sata controller because the mobo is out of ports. There is no obvious lag during bios post or grub booting it. That *should* rule out DNS then, unless something really strange is going on. What does mdadm tell

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread gene heskett
On 12/13/23 13:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wants to open a file

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 13:50, Dan Ritter wrote: Pocket wrote: Many reasons If the RAID controller bites the bullet you are usually toast unless you have another RAID controller (same manufacturer and type) as a spare. mdadm, zfs and btrfs all lack this problem. Not for me as I am not going do

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 13:47, Nicolas George wrote: Pocket (12023-12-13): If the RAID controller Then use software RAID with a Libre implementation. Nope been there done that and I ain't doing that I found it is better to just have my data on several backup disks Yeah, backups and RAID are not

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Pocket wrote: > > Many reasons > > If the RAID controller bites the bullet you are usually toast unless you > have another RAID controller (same manufacturer and type) as a spare. mdadm, zfs and btrfs all lack this problem. > I have zero luck replacing one companies raid controller wit

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Tom Furie
gene heskett writes: > It is a separate 6 port sata controller because the mobo is out of > ports. There is no obvious lag during bios post or grub booting it. That *should* rule out DNS then, unless something really strange is going on. What does mdadm tell you about the raid device, and its c

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Nicolas George
Pocket (12023-12-13): > If the RAID controller Then use software RAID with a Libre implementation. > I found it is better to just have my data on several backup disks Yeah, backups and RAID are not meant to protect against the same issues, so if you think one replaces the other… > After removin

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 13:20, gene heskett wrote: On 12/13/23 11:51, Pocket wrote: On 12/13/23 10:26, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wants to o

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my > /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that > wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread gene heskett
On 12/13/23 11:51, Pocket wrote: On 12/13/23 10:26, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread gene heskett
On 12/13/23 10:41, Tom Furie wrote: gene heskett writes: I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at least 30 seconds BEFORE t

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2023-12-13 at 10:10 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > If it's a remote server to which you have limited > or no physical access, booting a kernel that may "just be unusable" > (enough to prevent editing GRUB menus and rebooting) could be a disaster. Which is what happened a few years ago to me

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 10:26, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at least 30 seconds BEFORE t

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 10:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 04:13:44PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:10:37AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:56:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: If so, then IIUC the answer is a resounding "YES, it is saf

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Tom Furie
gene heskett writes: > I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 > for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for > access. Anything that wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a > freeze of at least 30 seconds BEFORE the file requester is drawn on >

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 04:13:44PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:10:37AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:56:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > If so, then IIUC the answer is a resounding "YES, it is safe!". > > > It just may be unusable,

raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at least 30 seconds BEFORE the file requester is drawn on screen. Onc

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:10:37AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:56:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > If so, then IIUC the answer is a resounding "YES, it is safe!". > > It just may be unusable, so you may have to downgrade to 6.1.0-13 until > > the problem is fixed.

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:56:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > If so, then IIUC the answer is a resounding "YES, it is safe!". > It just may be unusable, so you may have to downgrade to 6.1.0-13 until > the problem is fixed. > > That's a very different issue from the ext4 corruption problem in

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
to...@tuxteam.de [2023-12-13 06:35:08] wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:39:55PM -0600, David Wright wrote: >> On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: >> > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. >> > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, ju

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 13 Dec 2023 16:23 +0900, from j...@bunsenlabs.org (John Crawley): >> |Debian Bug report logs - #1057967 >> |Found in version linux/6.1.66-1 >> |Fixed in version linux/6.1.67-1 > > Good to know, but as of now (Wed 13 Dec 07:20:59 UTC 2023): > [...] > Have to wait a few more hours I suppose. It