Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-06 Thread Albretch Mueller
Oh, well! "My paranoia" as Greg would say ;-) Yes, they removed it again! I have no effing idea why (other than messing with me) You could hopefully see my back and forths with them: https://wordpress.com/forums/topic/how-long-does-it-take-for-a-new-post-to-become-active/ Let me resume fighti

Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince

2023-12-06 Thread Paul Scott
On 12/6/23 9:06 PM, Bert Riding wrote: On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:30:01 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: I use zathura which is also quite light but I'm not sure if you can print from it. I tend to print directly using lp although very infrequently in any case. In zathura :print brings up the Gtk+ prin

Re: Could/should you set Dir::Cache::{pkgcache, srcpkgcache} = ""; if all you are doing is locally downloading dependencies of an installation package?

2023-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 22:40:23 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > What I had been doing is use "depends" to get all dependencies I did that. > and > then download each of them. I did that too. Not all of them, of course, as I don't need or want all those packages. > I think that is why I was g

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 23:08:41 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/2/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote: > >> 'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without > >> recursion. > > $ apt depends wget 2>&1 | grep " Depends: " | awk '{ print $2}' > > that did

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 20:44:29 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > On 12/6/23 19:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:37:32PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > On 12/6/23 19:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:23:18PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > > > On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wo

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 16:21:37 (-0500), James Cloos wrote: > the current America/New_York equiv is: > > EST5EDT,M3.2.0/2:00:00,M11.1.0/2:00:00 That's as may be, but this discussion revolves around: "The M format is sufficient to describe many common daylight-savings transition laws. But not

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 18:16:42 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > On 12/6/23 15:28, David Wright wrote: > > Likely none for times present and future, unless Eric Adams should > > pass a timezone bill. (In the 2010s, several U.S. states considered > > legislation to move from the Eastern Time Zone to Atlantic

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:16:42PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > On 12/6/23 15:28, David Wright wrote: > > Likely none for times present and future, unless Eric Adams should > > pass a timezone bill [...] > Which BTW this whole discussion about timezones is just water over the dam. But still interest

Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince

2023-12-06 Thread Bert Riding
On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:30:01 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > I use zathura which is also quite light but I'm not sure if you can > print from it. I tend to print directly using lp although very > infrequently in any case. In zathura :print brings up the Gtk+ print dialog.

Re: how to firefox settings

2023-12-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-12-06 at 13:07, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > >> on a page in firefox use tools -> page info -> permissions i notice >> override keyboard shortcuts is set to allow where can i change the >> defaults for this > > Defaults are built-in; you can't chan

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 19:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:37:32PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 19:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:23:18PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: So, basically every reference I can find, and every reference I

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 10:25:55PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > You may ask me questions or suggest options on my wordpress page: > > https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/06/tog-touch-of-god-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/ This page doesn't seem to exist (yet?). I looked at the root of th

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:37:32PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > On 12/6/23 19:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:23:18PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > So, basically every reference I can find, and every reference I've > > > > *ever* > >

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 19:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:23:18PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: So, basically every reference I can find, and every reference I've *ever* found, other than Pocket's email, has said that America/New_York is correct for me.

Re: Load in minor time one page

2023-12-06 Thread Dan Ritter
William Torrez Corea wrote: > One page by means of firefox has a latency of 49.9 ms. > > > *How can I improve the latency?* > > I want a latency of 0 ms Every page is different. You can measure with the developer tools, in the performance tab. Things you can try: - different network connect

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:23:18PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > So, basically every reference I can find, and every reference I've *ever* > > found, other than Pocket's email, has said that America/New_York is > > correct for me. > > > See my other post [citat

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:11:16PM -0500, Pocket wrote: Because DST was not in force/usage except the metro NYC. Every where else didn't use/have it. That makes EST5DST correct except for NYC and America/New_York completely incorrect except of course NYC

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:11:16PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Because DST was not in force/usage except the metro NYC. Every where else > didn't use/have it. > > That makes EST5DST correct except for NYC and America/New_York completely > incorrect except of course NYC. (EST5EDT not EST5DST.) Now thi

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 18:28, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:50:50PM -0500, Pocket wrote: Well since I am not going to set any of my systems to a time in 1920, then I believe I am save from the time machines. It's not just about your system's current time. It's about timestamps that yo

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:50:50PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Well since I am not going to set any of my systems to a time in 1920, then I > believe I am save from the time machines. It's not just about your system's current time. It's about timestamps that you handle in any kind of software. If yo

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 15:28, David Wright wrote: Likely none for times present and future, unless Eric Adams should pass a timezone bill. (In the 2010s, several U.S. states considered legislation to move from the Eastern Time Zone to Atlantic Standard Time, allegedly.) But I've already posted an example i

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 15:41, David Wright wrote: On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 13:27:40 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: TZ=POSIX;date Wed Dec 6 18:00:38 POSIX 2023 "POSIX" is not a valid timezone name in Debian 12. Therefore you're just seeing UTC here.

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

2023-12-06 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/2/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote: >> 'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without >> recursion. > $ apt depends wget 2>&1 | grep " Depends: " | awk '{ print $2}' that didn't work, dpkg would still demand dependencies, so I decided to change the str

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
 Sent from my iPad > On Dec 6, 2023, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: >> TZ=POSIX;date >> Wed Dec 6 18:00:38 POSIX 2023 > > "POSIX" is not a valid timezone name in Debian 12. Therefore you're > just seeing UTC here. Giving an inva

Re: Found a liar

2023-12-06 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello yxcv, by now, you got a few comments and questions. Which you did not bother replying to. In the context of calling other parties liars in public, this is distasteful. It also reflects badly on you and probably brings you closer to a few block lists. Sorry for spamming the whole l

Re: Could/should you set Dir::Cache::{pkgcache, srcpkgcache} = ""; if all you are doing is locally downloading dependencies of an installation package?

2023-12-06 Thread Albretch Mueller
What I had been doing is use "depends" to get all dependencies and then download each of them. I think that is why I was getting those repeated binary files. I thought when you said "download" you just meant "download". lbrtchx

ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-06 Thread Albretch Mueller
ToG Linux ("Touch of God" (no blasphemy intended) a la Michelangelo's "The Creation of Adam", with one of the poetic connotations being, to make best use of what you know to be certain, what "you can touch" (can exclusively reach with certainty), is readily available in your immediacy (before the p

RE: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-06 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, >> $ cat /etc/network/interfaces [...] >> # The primary network interface >> allow-hotplug ens32 >> iface ens32 inet static > Depending on what services your computer runs, you may wish to change > "allow-hotplug ens32" to "auto ens32". Thanks that one got by me when I created a new server.

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread James Cloos
the current America/New_York equiv is: EST5EDT,M3.2.0/2:00:00,M11.1.0/2:00:00 -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 13:27:40 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > TZ=POSIX;date > > Wed Dec 6 18:00:38 POSIX 2023 > > "POSIX" is not a valid timezone name in Debian 12. Therefore you're > just seeing UTC here. Giving an invalid TZ always

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 12:06:04 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > From the README > > The information in the time zone data files is by no means authoritative; > fixes and enhancements are welcome.  Please see the file CONTRIBUTING > for details Time zones are a civil and legal matter, so non-authoritativ

mdam: email when re-syncing

2023-12-06 Thread Franco Martelli
Hi everybody, I've mdadm that is running on Debian bookworm that it scans my RAID 5 array. It happened that after a cycle of hard reboot due to system freeze, mdadm starts resync the array. I noticed this looking at the red LED of the HDD activity almost always fired up and the "top" utility

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > TZ=POSIX;date > Wed Dec 6 18:00:38 POSIX 2023 "POSIX" is not a valid timezone name in Debian 12. Therefore you're just seeing UTC here. Giving an invalid TZ always gives you UTC, but with whatever crazy-ass name you used echoed back at y

Re: how to firefox settings

2023-12-06 Thread debian-user
fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > on a page in firefox use tools -> page info -> permissions > i notice override keyboard shortcuts is set to allow > where can i change the defaults for this Defaults are built-in; you can't change them (except by modifying the source and recompiling). You can turn

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 12:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:40:00PM -, Curt wrote: POSIX format specification The POSIX time zone format is the traditionally used format for AIX systems and provides a slight performance advantage over the Olson time zone format. Example of

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:40:00PM -, Curt wrote: > POSIX format specification > > The POSIX time zone format is the traditionally used format for AIX systems > and > provides a slight performance advantage over the Olson time zone format. > Example of a POSIX format is EST5EDT. > > The

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Curt
On 2023-12-06, Max Nikulin wrote: > > My reading of this document is that EST5EDT file in tzdata is a POSIX > extension, not "true" POSIX. > POSIX format specification The POSIX time zone format is the traditionally used format for AIX systems and provides a slight performance advantage over

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 12:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 12:06:04PM -0500, Pocket wrote: From the README The information in the time zone data files is by no means authoritative; fixes and enhancements are welcome.  Please see the file CONTRIBUTING for details I take that as chaos rei

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 12:06:04PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > From the README > > The information in the time zone data files is by no means authoritative; > fixes and enhancements are welcome.  Please see the file CONTRIBUTING > for details > > I take that as chaos reins supreme and one zone is no b

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 11:42, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 12:22, David Wright wrote: On Tue 05 Dec 2023 at 23:37:31 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: I am surprised that POSIX EST5EDT timezone has irregularities at least as it is implemented in GNU libc. I believed that it specifies just standard and summ

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 11:28:40AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > diff /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York > Binary files /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT and > /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York differ unicorn:/usr/share/zoneinfo$ ls -l EST5EDT -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2310 May 28

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2023 12:22, David Wright wrote: On Tue 05 Dec 2023 at 23:37:31 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: I am surprised that POSIX EST5EDT timezone has irregularities at least as it is implemented in GNU libc. I believed that it specifies just standard and summer time. During WWII they had War Time

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Curt
On 2023-12-06, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Honestly, I don't see the appeal of using legacy time zone names. Is > it just for the sake of contrariness? > No lack of contrariness around here. There exists such a thing as putting too fine a point on a thing, a notion which appears to escape some tech

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 11:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 10:44:42AM -0500, Pocket wrote: Well POSIX has worked for me since the days of Xenix and System V. Well, most of the goofy time zone changes were all *before* that. But there's at least one that happened more recently unicor

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2023-12-06 15:24 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > I have tried to upgrade to 12.3, but apparently the dependencies > of the new nvidia-kernel-dkms version cannot be fulfilled. > firmware-nvidia-gsp (= 525.147.05) is missing. I tried several > repositories. Note that Debian 12.3 has not been relea

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 10:44:42AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Well POSIX has worked for me since the days of Xenix and System V. Well, most of the goofy time zone changes were all *before* that. But there's at least one that happened more recently unicorn:~$ TZ=EST5EDT date -d '2006-03-12 +4 hou

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 04:45:41PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > On 2023-12-06 15:55:58, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > > > Which ones? > > > > ftp.de.debian.org > ftp2.de.debian.org > deb.debian.org > > > That package is in the non-free-firmware component; are you bringing > > that in? > > > > h

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 2023-12-06 15:55:58, Michael Kjörling wrote: Which ones? ftp.de.debian.org ftp2.de.debian.org deb.debian.org That package is in the non-free-firmware component; are you bringing that in? https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/firmware-nvidia-gsp There is still the old version 525.125.0

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 10:07, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 20:08, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 07:22, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 00:03, Pocket wrote: On 12/5/23 11:37, Max Nikulin wrote: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata That does not work. Cannot set EST5EDT.  you have to do that manually. Do you

Re: Problem between kernel 6.5.0-5 (testing) and Realtek NICs ?

2023-12-06 Thread Erwan David
Le 06/12/2023 à 15:55, Erwan David a écrit : After upgrade to 6.5.0-5 (a 6.5.13 kernel in testing), impossible to use the laptop when Realtek card present (in dock). it boots, sddm works but anything which tries to access networking (even the ip command) is then blocked It could be the same p

Re: what is a tasklet

2023-12-06 Thread Darac Marjal
On 06/12/2023 12:32, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: DI: DI: tasklet schedule cost 12ms. this interesting message started showing up in syslog a week or so ago i've never noticed them before any ideas whet this is According to https://lwn.net/Articles/830964/, they were a way to defer the ex

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2023 20:08, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 07:22, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 00:03, Pocket wrote: On 12/5/23 11:37, Max Nikulin wrote: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata That does not work. Cannot set EST5EDT.  you have to do that manually. Do you have reasons to prefer EST5EDT to IANA

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 09:27:06PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 06/12/2023 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > > sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' > > > > > > Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 6 Dec 2023 15:24 +0100, from harald.dun...@aixigo.com (Harald Dunkel): > I have tried to upgrade to 12.3, but apparently the dependencies > of the new nvidia-kernel-dkms version cannot be fulfilled. > firmware-nvidia-gsp (= 525.147.05) is missing. I tried several > repositories. Which ones? Th

Problem between kernel 6.5.0-5 (testing) and Realtek NICs ?

2023-12-06 Thread Erwan David
After upgrade to 6.5.0-5 (a 6.5.13 kernel in testing), impossible to use the laptop when Realtek card present (in dock). it boots, sddm works but anything which tries to access networking (even the ip command) is then blocked It could be the same problem as in https://discussion.fedoraproject

Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I have tried to upgrade to 12.3, but apparently the dependencies of the new nvidia-kernel-dkms version cannot be fulfilled. firmware-nvidia-gsp (= 525.147.05) is missing. I tried several repositories. Hopefully I am not too blind to find the bug report (the new version fixes a CVE, ie

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2023 01:42, jeremy ardley wrote: I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily, simply for using Debian Bookworm with a variety of web browsers Magic does no

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2023 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily, See /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf.d if you want to make such things pe

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 07:22, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 00:03, Pocket wrote: On 12/5/23 11:37, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/12/2023 05:14, Pocket wrote: For gene [...] dpkg-reconfigure tzdata That does not work. Cannot set EST5EDT. 

how to firefox settings

2023-12-06 Thread fxkl47BF
on a page in firefox use tools -> page info -> permissions i notice override keyboard shortcuts is set to allow where can i change the defaults for this

what is a tasklet

2023-12-06 Thread fxkl47BF
DI: DI: tasklet schedule cost 12ms. this interesting message started showing up in syslog a week or so ago i've never noticed them before any ideas whet this is

Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2023 12:14, tomas wrote: Debian Bullseye here. Xpdf links against libpoppler102, which has GPLv2 or V3, same as xpdf. Perhaps fact checking of the following is required. Gnome forked xpdf to have a library (poppler) for a PDF viewer (evince). For security reasons Debian maintainers a

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2023 00:03, Pocket wrote: On 12/5/23 11:37, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/12/2023 05:14, Pocket wrote: For gene [...] dpkg-reconfigure tzdata That does not work. Cannot set EST5EDT.  you have to do that manually. Do you h

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread debian-user
Karl Vogel wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:04:36AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory > > > sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Karl Vogel
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:04:36AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory > > sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' > > Sadly it looks like I'll n

Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince

2023-12-06 Thread yxcv
On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 06:14:00 +0100 wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 05:01:37PM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: [...] I've used Xpdf from Arch, and it's an entirely different program. My understanding was that the Arch version depended on poppler. I can only imagine that the version in Debian is