On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 hlyg wrote:
On 6/17/23 22:47, Marko Ranđelović wrote:
Did you installed it or tried the live system? What are your hardware
components?
i install bookworm for amd64, not from live CD
i often run buster for i386 for days, no problem
Try -debug option to increase logg
>> > One of the big differences between apt-get and aptitude is the resolver
>> > which is much more sophisticated (which doesn't necessarily mean always
>> > "better) in aptitude.
>>
>> Indeed, `aptitude` was not able to find a way to upgrade one of my
>> `stable` machines, so I ran `apt` instead,
I have been looking for a replacement for shorewall, and determined to
try firewalld. The user can configure it from a GUI (firewall-config),
or from the command line. The latter means one can also write scripts
for it. Great! So I have installed Bookworm, firewalld, and Network
Manager (NM) on a L
On 2023-06-17, Paul Gerdes wrote:
> Hi i have a problem with Debian 12 after Installation.
> Every time i try to log in to the Desktop Environment or WM my Screen goes
> black. The PC completely freezes and i cant switch to another TTY.
Did you check X logs ? With something like
grep EE /var/log
On 6/17/23 22:47, Marko Ranđelović wrote:
Did you installed it or tried the live system? What are your hardware
components?
i install bookworm for amd64, not from live CD
i often run buster for i386 for days, no problem
Try -debug option to increase logging (see the man page for detail
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 3:12 PM Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
> > One of the big differences between apt-get and aptitude is the resolver
> > which is much more sophisticated (which doesn't necessarily mean always
> > "better) in aptitude.
>
> Indeed, `aptitude` was not able to find a way to upgrade one
Hi i have a problem with Debian 12 after Installation.
Every time i try to log in to the Desktop Environment or WM my Screen goes
black. The PC completely freezes and i cant switch to another TTY.
I reinstalled Debian 12 a few times via netinstall. Tried different Desktop
Environments and WMs. The
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 03:12:23PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > One of the big differences between apt-get and aptitude is the resolver
> > which is much more sophisticated (which doesn't necessarily mean always
> > "better) in aptitude.
>
> Indeed, `aptitude` was not able to find a way to upg
> i have tried bookworm,noticed many improvements
Indeed.
> today it becomes unresponsive when i transfer files to cell phone with
> go-mtpfs
Cool. Haven't bumped into this improvement myself yet.
Can't wait!
Stefan
> One of the big differences between apt-get and aptitude is the resolver
> which is much more sophisticated (which doesn't necessarily mean always
> "better) in aptitude.
Indeed, `aptitude` was not able to find a way to upgrade one of my
`stable` machines, so I ran `apt` instead, which punted on
On 6/17/23 08:50, didier gaumet wrote:
Le 17/06/2023 à 14:09, gene heskett a écrit :
On 6/17/23 04:44, didier gaumet wrote:
[...]
- if you want an even more user-friendly and guided approach, use an
app store instead of a package manager: Gnome-software or Apper
I do use several AppImages be
Hello to every Debian wonderful user.
I've installed Ubuntu 14.04 + kernel 3.13 + kvm on my Samsung Chromebook
ARM "SNOW" model XE303C12. Almost everything works (but not the mouse usb).
My goal is to upgrade Ubuntu (kernel and userland and I want to keep kvm
enabled). I would like to compile and
On 6/17/23 09:45, hlyg wrote:
i have tried bookworm,noticed many improvements
Did you installed it or tried the live system? What are your hardware
components?
i boot it again, last lines of journalctl shows phone connection thru
usb, no error msg
Try -debug option to increase loggi
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 09:00:29AM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 08:38:33 -0400
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com
> > wrote:
> > > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed?
> >
> > Because each
Hello,
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 08:55:24AM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> Debian's capable of deciding that systemd is installed by default,
> etc, even if such decisions occur after monumental
> discussions/arguments.
It took literally years and is still hotly revisited from time to
time
Paul writes:
> Again, I'm not suggesting ONE tool. I'm suggesting that, for example,
> dependency resolution be handled in a specific way by all tools. Make
> all the tools you like. But ensure that on the back end, they all deal
> with the database in the same way.
Are you saying that having used
Paul writes:
> As regards Synaptic, based on the discussion here, I'm guessing that
> whoever is maintaining it has no particular desire to craft a Wayland
> version, and that's why it hasn't been done. Still, Debian leadership
> could put out a call for volunteers to work on this. It *could* be
>
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 08:38:33 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com
> wrote:
> > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed?
>
> Because each user has a different preference. Just read this thread
> for example, and see all the d
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 11:45:06 +
Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com
> wrote:
> > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed?
>
> Because of the fundamental philosophies that underpin how Debian is
> developed. Debian is n
Le 17/06/2023 à 14:09, gene heskett a écrit :
On 6/17/23 04:44, didier gaumet wrote:
[...]
- if you want an even more user-friendly and guided approach, use an
app store instead of a package manager: Gnome-software or Apper
I do use several AppImages because of debians glacial speed of updati
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed?
Because each user has a different preference. Just read this thread
for example, and see all the differing opinions about how we like
our packages to be managed.
On 6/17/23 04:44, didier gaumet wrote:
Le 16/06/2023 à 20:32, gene heskett a écrit :
greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall.
Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown
after entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for selection
is
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 11:45:06AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> One person's long-overdue deprecation is another person's unwelcome
> change. See any of the great Debian controversies such as systemd or
> merged-/usr. Things would be vastly simpler in a project where a
> small group of people get
Hello,
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed?
Because of the fundamental philosophies that underpin how Debian is
developed. Debian is not the sort of place where a top-down
authority declares that there is
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 23:03:59 -0400
wrote:
>
> Please forgive my ignorance. But from what I've heard, apt and apt-get
> manage packages differently, and aptitude does it differently as well.
> Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? You'd think this
> would a high priority for the
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:41:08 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives.
> > After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Le 16/06/2023 à 20:32, gene heskett a écrit :
greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall.
Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after
entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for selection is
compatible with wayland? Something I can
i have tried bookworm,noticed many improvements
today it becomes unresponsive when i transfer files to cell phone with
go-mtpfs
it doesn't respond to my keystroke, i can't see any error msg, disk LED
in front panel of pc case shows busy, after about 5 minutes i disconnect
power cord
i boot
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