Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 03:33:23PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2023-06-16 14:32 (UTC-0400): > > > greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. > > > Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after > > entering my pw. So what

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: [...] > Please forgive my ignorance. But from what I've heard, apt and apt-get > manage packages differently, and aptitude does it differently as well. > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? Actually they a

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 23:04, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: [...] Please forgive my ignorance. But from what I've heard, apt and apt-get manage packages differently, and aptitude does it differently as well. Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? You'd think this would a high priority for the

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread John Hasler
Paul writes: > Please forgive my ignorance. But from what I've heard, apt and apt-get > manage packages differently, and aptitude does it differently as well. Apt-get: DESCRIPTION apt-get is the command-line tool for handling packages, and may be considered the user's "back-end" to othe

Re: Strange message

2023-06-16 Thread Maureen L Thomas
I followed the instructions but they did not work.  Now what? On 6/15/23 8:27 AM, ogis wrote: Hello. Just check this: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=150193 15.06.2023 08:09, Maureen L Thomas пишет: Failed to receive portal pid: org.freedesktop.DBus, error, NameHasNoOwner

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread John Hasler
Paul writes: > Here's a reason to use a GUI package manager (or even aptitude): you > want a package which does X, and you don't know which packages do > that. And therefor I use apt-cache search to find it. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I really don't understand why people want a GUI package manager at all. I always use the plain "batch command line" tools like `apt` or `aptitude`, indeed (and not the ncurses UI of `aptitude` which I found difficult to use when I tried it). But I think the reason is quite simple: while most pe

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread paulf
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:14:43 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > On 6/16/23 14:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:32 PM gene heskett > > wrote: > >> > >> greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. > >> > >> Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread paulf
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:17:07 -0400 gene heskett wrote: [snip] > So all my cnc machines are still on buster, and will stay there until > wayland CAN replace X11. wayland is just barely able to run a simple > gui, and until it can transparently do everything X11 has done for > decades, its not

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread paulf
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:40:54 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > On 6/16/23 18:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > >> 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > >> Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > >> After this operation,

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread paulf
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:41:08 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > > After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used.

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 07:40:54PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/16/23 18:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Now, granted, this is just my personal stance. I may be atypical. > > That said, what exactly does a GUI package manager offer you, that > > you can't get from "apt install thing-i-want"? > >

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 18:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used. I really don't understand w

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread David
On Fri, 2023-06-16 at 18:41 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > > After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used. >

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used. I really don't understand why people want a GUI package manager

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 17:49, Antonio Russo wrote: On 2023-06-16 13:14, gene heskett wrote: Has aptitude been tamed? I've stayed away from it now for years because its torn the system down with its idea of dependencies, to doing a reinstall 4 times in the decade passed. I do not trust it at all, been bu

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 15:33, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-06-16 14:32 (UTC-0400): greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for select

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2023-06-16 13:14, gene heskett wrote: > Has aptitude been tamed? > > I've stayed away from it now for years because its torn the system down with > its idea of dependencies, to doing a reinstall 4 times in the decade passed. > I do not trust it at all, been burned to the ground too many time

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Jun 2023 at 15:14:43 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > Has aptitude been tamed? I don't think aptitude ever needed taming, unlike your TERM setting. > I've stayed away from it now for years because its torn the system > down with its idea of dependencies, to doing a reinstall 4 times in >

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-16 14:32 (UTC-0400): > greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. > Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after > entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for selection is > compatible with wayland?

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/23 14:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:32 PM gene heskett wrote: greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for select

Re: Apache logs and systemd

2023-06-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:38:40PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I should have mentioned in OP the logs are in a dir under my own apache > installation dir, and they are text files. I’ll try to get “logrotate” to > take them over. It should happen by default. Normally logrotate is called by

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:32 PM gene heskett wrote: > > greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. > > Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after > entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for selection is > compatible with wayland? S

package managers problem

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
greetings, just had to reinstall bullseye. from an 11.2 netinstall. Sudo -E cannot run synaptic, and cannot run it from menu pulldown after entering my pw. So what package manager with a gui for selection is compatible with wayland? Something I can get apt to install from a sudo -i shell? Ch

Re: Apache logs and systemd

2023-06-16 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 16:57 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Tom, > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 01:52:10PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > Maybe it's related to the rsyslog changes ? > > apache by default does not use a syslog for logging though, it … Thanks, Andy. I should have mentioned in OP the logs a

Re: Bluetooth driver error on boot after upgrade to bookworm

2023-06-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-06-16 at 11:00, Unni wrote: > Hello, > > I am getting Bluetooth firmware error after upgrade. I've tried > reinstalling firmware-iwlwifi. But no luck. I've added non-free-firmware > in apt source, so thats not the issue. Help me to fix the error on booth. From that last, I'm presuming

Re: tp-link tl-sf1005d version 7.1

2023-06-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 03:14:02PM +0200, Aleix Piulachs wrote: > hallo debian gentlemen If you only talk to gentlemen, you might receive less help :-) > i can’t connect to the LAN from bullseye with > tp-link tl-sf1005d version 7.1 > I’ve a hp6830s i386 with bullseye and intel pentium dual cpu t

Bluetooth driver error on boot after upgrade to bookworm

2023-06-16 Thread Unni
Hello, I am getting Bluetooth firmware error after upgrade. I've tried reinstalling firmware-iwlwifi. But no luck. I've added non-free-firmware in apt source, so thats not the issue. Help me to fix the error on booth. ~# dmesg | egrep -i 'bluetooth' [    6.051557] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22 [ 

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-16 Thread Susmita/Rajib
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Re: Unexpected change in behavior for adduser

2023-06-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Jun 2023 at 14:19:52 (+0200), Diego Fioravanti wrote: > I am not sure if this is a bug in Debian, expected behaviour or something > else, so I decided to write here before opening a bug. Maybe someone can > help me out and tell me if it is something I should report. > > I am using the o

tp-link tl-sf1005d version 7.1

2023-06-16 Thread Aleix Piulachs
hallo debian gentlemen i can’t connect to the LAN from bullseye with tp-link tl-sf1005d version 7.1 I’ve a hp6830s i386 with bullseye and intel pentium dual cpu t3400 could you help me with this please?

Re: Unexpected change in behavior for adduser

2023-06-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 02:19:52PM +0200, Diego Fioravanti wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am not sure if this is a bug in Debian, expected behaviour or something > else, so I decided to write here before opening a bug. Maybe someone can > help me out and tell me if it is something I should report. >

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/14/23 12:01, Sascha Silbe wrote: Hello, gene heskett writes: That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullseye repository. If I understand the status page [3] correctly it's only scheduled for the

Unexpected change in behavior for adduser

2023-06-16 Thread Diego Fioravanti
Hi everyone, I am not sure if this is a bug in Debian, expected behaviour or something else, so I decided to write here before opening a bug. Maybe someone can help me out and tell me if it is something I should report. I am using the official python docker image which builds out of Bullseye (btw

Re: apt-cdrom: How do I use the flash drive as a CD-ROM to install software in Debian 12?

2023-06-16 Thread David Wright
On Thu 15 Jun 2023 at 21:32:41 (+), Totoro wrote: > After entering > > sudo apt update > > The following messages appeared on the console: > > Ign:1 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 12.0.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD > Binary-1 with firmware 20230610-10:23"] bookworm InRelease > Err:2 cdrom:/