Can not pre-configure KDE Plasma bottom panel nor Dolphin with Kiosk

2023-04-04 Thread Yvan Masson
Hi list, I am trying to configure some default settings to be able to deploy KDE. I am doing my tests with Debian “hopefully-soon-stable” 12 (Plasma 5.27.2). I follow the kiosk mode documentation [1], and it works properly for some settings (night color, baloo search, power management, Discov

Re: vtty & X terminal color scourge

2023-04-04 Thread David
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 at 02:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:33:26PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > What bothers me more than anything is that dead symlinks haven't been red, > > or > > anything else to distinguish them, in a long time. > So... you're talking about the colors u

Re: vtty & X terminal color scourge

2023-04-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:33:26PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > What bothers me more than anything is that dead symlinks haven't been red, or > anything else to distinguish them, in a long time. So... you're talking about the colors used by "ls", yes? If you don't want ls colors at all, you can us

vtty & X terminal color scourge

2023-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
Once upon a time, I could count on minimal coloring on vttys and X terminals. This was unaffected by my inclusion of setterm -foreground white -bold -background blue -blank 59 -store in .bashrc, which after some years needed to be changed to tty=$(tty); [ "$tty" != "${tty#/dev/tty[0-9]}" ]

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 02:15:10 +0200 Emanuel Berg wrote: ... > I agree but I think maybe the success of Python, and its > development speed, is actually because of some of that > rigidness, yes, including the whitespace lack of freedom. I'm no great programmer, and many posters in this thread are

Bullseye and hplip install

2023-04-04 Thread tony mollica
Here's the deal! I've upgraded from buster to bullseye with no real issues, overall, with the exception of only one app so far. hplip didn't run after the upgrade and I've uninstalled and re-installed hplip from the bullseye repo and it does install but doesn't work. No warnings on the instal

Re: |Inquiry regarding fixing the error light display manager

2023-04-04 Thread songbird
Bala personal wrote: > Hello Team, > > Greetings. When i tried to install Debian xfce in my new computer Acer > Aspire5, NVIDIA hardware pre installed support, i faced an issue after > reboot the system as "failed to start light display manager. So how to > fix this? I tried the button to access

Re: package libxnvctrl0 installed by xfce, but nouveau is installed

2023-04-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-04-04 18:27:59 +0200, zithro wrote: > Unfortunately, "libxnvctrl0" is a dependency for "xfce4-sensors-plugin" : > > apt show xfce4-sensors-plugin > Depends: libxnvctrl0 > > So marking the packages provides the exact same output as above. > > Should I report a bug in the "xfce4-sensors-pl

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread local10
Apr 4, 2023, 13:40 by a...@strugglers.net: > Turns out though ChatGPT is--as virtually all ML code--written > in Python, that's at least according to Wikipedia and not too > surprising. There you go. Depending on what you make of it, > there may not come much after Python > I see, thanks. R

Re: |Inquiry regarding fixing the error light display manager

2023-04-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 5/4/23 03:43, davidson wrote: It is said that if you wash a cat it will never again wash itself. This may or may not be true: what is certain is that if you teach a man anything he will never learn it. -- George Bernard Shaw The "Bernard Shaw" is quite appropriate - it is BS. I have been tau

Re: Re: package libxnvctrl0 installed by xfce, but nouveau is installed

2023-04-04 Thread zithro
Thanks, I'll report the bug in BTS then

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2023-04-04 Thread zithro
Hello, sorry to necro, but did you get ANY news from ANYwhere ? I also wanted to say thank you very much for your instructions. You were the only one on which we could rely, in TWO YEARS ! ^^ Have a nice evening ! References (none solved, everyone saying "not me") : https://bugs.debian.org/cg

Re: |Inquiry regarding fixing the error light display manager

2023-04-04 Thread davidson
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 Bala personal wrote: Hello Team, Hello, Sailor. No team here. Just users like us. Hence "debian-user". Greetings. When i tried to install Debian xfce in my new computer Acer Aspire5, NVIDIA hardware pre installed support, i faced an issue after reboot the system as "failed

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 1:37 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 06:29:50PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > But cropping and ignoring the actual point of Stefan's mail rather > > misses the point and insults him. For example, three CVEs chosen at > > random from the 'vi

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread David Wright
On Tue 04 Apr 2023 at 13:37:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 06:29:50PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > But cropping and ignoring the actual point of Stefan's mail rather > > misses the point and insults him. For example, three CVEs chosen at > > random from t

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 06:29:50PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > But cropping and ignoring the actual point of Stefan's mail rather > misses the point and insults him. For example, three CVEs chosen at > random from the 'vim' list: > > CVE-2010-3481 Multiple SQL injection vuln

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-04 Thread Susmita/Rajib
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible? From: david...@freevolt.org Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 11:39:59 + (UTC) Message-id: <[🔎] alpine.deb.2.21.2304041139540.12...@azone.org>

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread debian-user
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 9:46 AM Stefan Monnier > wrote: > > > > > Here are three more data points. > > > > > >* Emacs - 41 CVEs since 2000 [1] > > >* Vi - 61 CVEs since 1999 [2] > > >* Vim - 656 CVEs since 2001 [3] > > > > > > I'm not sure how many CVEs overla

Re: package libxnvctrl0 installed by xfce, but nouveau is installed

2023-04-04 Thread zithro
On 04 Apr 2023 16:56, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 9:18 AM zithro wrote: I have a bug with the nouveau driver shown in dmesg, so I looked up for solutions. On freedesktop.org, they say to remove everything concerning nvidia first, and only installing/using "nouveau" packages.

Re: How to enable the audio on the Kinect 1 so that I can talk without having the microphone attached to my mouth...on Debian.

2023-04-04 Thread Mario Marietto
I have even compiled it from source : root@Z390-AORUS-PRO-DEST:/mnt/zroot2/zroot2/kinect-1-audio# git clone git:// git.ao2.it/kinect-audio-setup.git Clone in 'kinect-audio-setup' in corso... remote: Counting objects: 651, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (641/641), done. remote: Total 651

Re: package libxnvctrl0 installed by xfce, but nouveau is installed

2023-04-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-04-04 15:00:11 +0200, zithro wrote: > I have a bug with the nouveau driver shown in dmesg, so I looked up for > solutions. > On freedesktop.org, they say to remove everything concerning nvidia first, > and only installing/using "nouveau" packages. > On my system, I found the package "libxnv

Re: package libxnvctrl0 installed by xfce, but nouveau is installed

2023-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 9:18 AM zithro wrote: > > I have a bug with the nouveau driver shown in dmesg, so I looked up for > solutions. > On freedesktop.org, they say to remove everything concerning nvidia > first, and only installing/using "nouveau" packages. > On my system, I found the package "li

Re: How to enable the audio on the Kinect 1 so that I can talk without having the microphone attached to my mouth...on Debian.

2023-04-04 Thread Mario Marietto
I have installed the package on Ubuntu 22.04. Same situation that I have on Debian 11. It is not recognized as sound device : root@Z390-AORUS-PRO-DEST:/mnt/zroot2/zroot2/kinect-1-audio# lsb_release -a LSB Version:core-11.1.0ubuntu4-noarch:security-11.1.0ubuntu4-noarch Distributor ID: Ubuntu D

Re: How to enable the audio on the Kinect 1 so that I can talk without having the microphone attached to my mouth...on Debian.

2023-04-04 Thread Mario Marietto
I've fixed the issue and I have installed the deb package : root@marietto:/mnt/zroot2/zroot2/kinect-1-audio# dpkg -i hark-kinect_1.2.0.4440_amd64.deb (Lettura del database... 347122 file e directory attualmente installati.) Preparativi per estrarre hark-kinect_1.2.0.4440_amd64.deb... Estrazione d

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 9:46 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Here are three more data points. > > > >* Emacs - 41 CVEs since 2000 [1] > >* Vi - 61 CVEs since 1999 [2] > >* Vim - 656 CVEs since 2001 [3] > > > > I'm not sure how many CVEs overlap for Vim due to Vi. > > I don't know what th

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Here are three more data points. > >* Emacs - 41 CVEs since 2000 [1] >* Vi - 61 CVEs since 1999 [2] >* Vim - 656 CVEs since 2001 [3] > > I'm not sure how many CVEs overlap for Vim due to Vi. I don't know what the number of CVEs tells us about a project, but the above additionally suf

Re: my immature thoughts on perl

2023-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:35:39AM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote: > How do you think of it? I think you should use Ruby if you like Ruby better! Honestly, we aren't the "I'd Like An Argument Please" sketch; if we were then you'd have to be paying. As it stands I am only doing this in my spa

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 05:35:04AM +0200, local10 wrote: > Apr 4, 2023, 00:16 by in...@dataswamp.org: > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > >> The argument being responded to is roughly that "a popular > >> AI coding assistant is written in Python, and Python is > >> a Turing-complete language, there

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

2023-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 1:31 PM Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > >> I saw many commands in /bin and /usr/bin are written by > >> perl. is perl still the first choice for sysadmin on linux? > > > > I am surprised this thread has not started a mini-flame war. > > We are working on it

package libxnvctrl0 installed by xfce, but nouveau is installed

2023-04-04 Thread zithro
Hello, I have a bug with the nouveau driver shown in dmesg, so I looked up for solutions. On freedesktop.org, they say to remove everything concerning nvidia first, and only installing/using "nouveau" packages. On my system, I found the package "libxnvctrl0" (by nvidia) which was installed by

Re: How to enable the audio on the Kinect 1 so that I can talk without having the microphone attached to my mouth...on Debian.

2023-04-04 Thread Dan Ritter
Mario Marietto wrote: > Seems like they moved them, I found the devs here: > > http://archive.hark.jp/harkoldrepos/dists/precise/non-free/binary-amd64/ > > but It does not work : > > marietto@marietto:/mnt/zroot2/zroot2/AlexaChatGPT$ sudo dpkg -i > hark-kinect_1.2.0.4440_amd64.deb That reposi

Re: How to enable the audio on the Kinect 1 so that I can talk without having the microphone attached to my mouth...on Debian.

2023-04-04 Thread Mario Marietto
Seems like they moved them, I found the devs here: http://archive.hark.jp/harkoldrepos/dists/precise/non-free/binary-amd64/ but It does not work : marietto@marietto:/mnt/zroot2/zroot2/AlexaChatGPT$ sudo dpkg -i hark-kinect_1.2.0.4440_amd64.deb Selezionato il pacchetto hark-kinect non precedente

Re: my immature thoughts on perl

2023-04-04 Thread Ken Peng
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I think watching carefully Tcl's evolution teaches a lot about languages, the type of design decisions going into them and their (changing) context. I was surprised to see many people here still use TCL. Many years ago I used this language for sysadmin jobs. It was wo

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-04 Thread davidson
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 david...@freevolt.org wrote: On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: [trim] icdiff will not do that. icdiff is faithful to its sources. I have determined this by trying it out a little myself, and by examining the command line options documented in its manual page ("man icdiff").

How to enable the audio on the Kinect 1 so that I can talk without having the microphone attached to my mouth...on Debian.

2023-04-04 Thread Mario Marietto
Hello to everyone, I would like to enable the audio on my old kinect 1 so that I can talk without having the microphone attached to my mouth. I see that in the past this could be done installing the package called "hark-kinect",as explained here : https://gist.github.com/awesomebytes/924493bcdb3

Re: my immature thoughts on perl

2023-04-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 07:12:05AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 06:50:02AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > In Tcl, OTOH, EIAS [...] > The introduction of the {*} operator eliminated a lot of the need for > eval. Instead of [...] Thanks for the reminder :) I think wa

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-04 Thread davidson
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: [trim] icdiff will not do that. icdiff is faithful to its sources. I have determined this by trying it out a little myself, and by examining the command line options documented in its manual page ("man icdiff"). You could give it different sources: $ icdiff <(

Re: my immature thoughts on perl

2023-04-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 06:50:02AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > In Tcl, OTOH, EIAS (Everything Is A String), so you've got > to eval strings (don't take me too seriously: modern Tcl > cheats, and it's more "Everything looks like a string", > but I disgress). The introduction of the {*} operato

Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-04 Thread davidson
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 Susmita/Rajib wrote: [trimmed headers] [ ... ] You have reported that redirecting icdiff output to a file, in your words, "drops all colors". And so I have three questions: [trimmed davidson's questions] $ icdiff file1 file2 > pretty_diff $ less -R pretty_diff [ ...

Re: my immature thoughts on perl

2023-04-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-04-03 20:50:22 -0700, Will Mengarini wrote: > * cor...@free.fr [23-04/04=Tu 10:35 +0800]: > > For instance, in ruby (irb) this is quite smooth: > > irb(main):001:0> [1,2,3,4].map{|x|x+1}.reduce{|x,y|x+y} > > => 14 > > > > And in scala (shell): > > scala> List(1,2,3,4).map{ _+1 }.reduce{_+_

Re: my immature thoughts on perl

2023-04-04 Thread john doe
On 4/4/23 04:35, cor...@free.fr wrote: Hello list, Would it be possible to refrain from using the list for OT stuff. Your Perl threads are generating traffic that are not useful. -- John Doe