Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:09:41PM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: > Without setting directory and file permissions to 777, how do you > allow the above? What combinations of groups, directory > owners/permissions and file owners/permissions might make this > possible? Solution #1: 1) M

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 08:14:25PM -0400, lou wrote: > > On 9/21/21 3:49 PM, piorunz wrote: > >. > >Many Linux distributions are made that way. After all, we want to come > >away from closed source software. Debian tries to avoid all closed > >source and/or non-free software, as per The Debian Fre

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 22 sep 21, 00:15:48, Paul M. Foster wrote: > > On 9/21/21 11:42 PM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > > > you can create a user group, add all developers to it and give this > > group permissions to read and write to that particular folder > > (/var/www/html/website). > > > This is more or les

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 9/22/21 07:15, Paul M. Foster wrote: > > On 9/21/21 11:42 PM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> On 9/22/21 06:09, Paul M. Foster wrote: >>> Folks: >>> >>> This is probably a stupid question for many of you, but I've been >>> struggling with it since I started using Linux in 1996. >>> >>> Say you have

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 20:49:20 +0100 piorunz wrote: Hello piorunz, >On 21/09/2021 16:56, Brad Rogers wrote: >> Finally, let us not forget that even the official installers seek to >> install non-free blobs to get certain hardware working where >> necessary. The installation inevitably stalls at th

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 21 sep 21, 20:14:25, lou wrote: > > On 9/21/21 3:49 PM, piorunz wrote: > > . > > Many Linux distributions are made that way. After all, we want to come > > away from closed source software. Debian tries to avoid all closed > > source and/or non-free software, as per The Debian Free Software

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Felix Miata
Paul M. Foster composed on 2021-09-22 00:10 (UTC-0400): > However, as I said, this type of situation had to be common on old Unix > systems, and they didn't have git. They had to have solved it some other > way.

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread David Christensen
On 9/21/21 9:10 PM, Paul M. Foster wrote: Yeah, I use git in other contexts. In this particular instance, when these projects were created, git didn't exist. While I could implement it here, the other user is on a Mac. I've had experience trying to install "normal" software (like git) on a Mac

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Paul M. Foster
On 9/21/21 11:42 PM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 9/22/21 06:09, Paul M. Foster wrote: Folks: This is probably a stupid question for many of you, but I've been struggling with it since I started using Linux in 1996. Say you have a directory in which there are development files. A number of us

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread David Christensen
On 9/21/21 8:53 AM, Tim Woodall wrote: I would like to have some WORM memory for my backups. At the moment they're copied to an archive machine using a chrooted unprivileged user and then moved via a cron job so that that user cannot delete them (other than during a short window). My though was

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Paul M. Foster
On 9/21/21 11:26 PM, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:09:41 -0400 "Paul M. Foster" wrote: Say you have a directory in which there are development files. A number of users will be creating, deleting and modifying the files there. This is the type of situation which might have been

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:09:41 -0400 "Paul M. Foster" wrote: > Say you have a directory in which there are development files. A > number of users will be creating, deleting and modifying the files > there. This is the type of situation which might have been common on > old Unix university systems.

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 9/22/21 06:09, Paul M. Foster wrote: > Folks: > > This is probably a stupid question for many of you, but I've been > struggling with it since I started using Linux in 1996. > > Say you have a directory in which there are development files. A number > of users will be creating, deleting and mo

Development permissions

2021-09-21 Thread Paul M. Foster
Folks: This is probably a stupid question for many of you, but I've been struggling with it since I started using Linux in 1996. Say you have a directory in which there are development files. A number of users will be creating, deleting and modifying the files there. This is the type of situ

Re: Join the Debian Folding@Home Team!

2021-09-21 Thread Alexis Geoffrey
Hi Bob, > I am currently running Fedora 31. Can I participate? Yes definitely, Fedora 31 is supported, and there are .rpm packages available on the site. All the different versions can be found here: https://foldingathome.org/alternative-downloads/. Feel free to join the team if you want as

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread lou
On 9/21/21 3:49 PM, piorunz wrote: . Many Linux distributions are made that way. After all, we want to come away from closed source software. Debian tries to avoid all closed source and/or non-free software, as per The Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG): https://www.debian.org/social_contr

Re: Write *once* storage (was Re: write only storage)

2021-09-21 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Steve McIntyre writes: > In article > you write: >>I would like to have some WORM memory for my backups. At the moment >>they're copied to an archive machine using a chrooted unprivileged user >>and then moved via a cron job so that that user cannot delete them >>(other than during a short wind

Re: Re: Join the Debian Folding@Home Team!

2021-09-21 Thread Alexis Geoffrey
Hi Bob, > I am currently running Fedora 31. Can I participate? Yes definitely, Fedora 31 is supported, and there are .rpm packages available on the site. All the different versions can be found here: https://foldingathome.org/alternative-downloads/. Feel free to join the team if you want as wel

Re: Join the Debian Folding@Home Team!

2021-09-21 Thread Bob Crochelt
On 9/21/21 1:08 PM, Alexis Geoffrey wrote: Hello all, For anyone who is unaware, the Folding@Home project is a distributed computing project aimed to help scientists develop new therapeutics for a variety of diseases by the means of simulating protein dynamics. This includes the process of prote

Join the Debian Folding@Home Team!

2021-09-21 Thread Alexis Geoffrey
Hello all, For anyone who is unaware, the Folding@Home project is a distributed computing project aimed to help scientists develop new therapeutics for a variety of diseases by the means of simulating protein dynamics. This includes the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins, and

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 06:37:41PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: A ransomware attack that exploits a zero day ssh vulnerability for example wouldn't be a complete disaster - this is only home usage - but it seems fairly trivial to create a 'worm' usb device using a pi. I haven't tested yet but with a

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread piorunz
On 21/09/2021 16:56, Brad Rogers wrote: Finally, let us not forget that even the official installers seek to install non-free blobs to get certain hardware working where necessary. The installation inevitably stalls at that point. Hardly a good first impression. Many Linux distributions are ma

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Linux-Fan
Marco Möller writes: On 21.09.21 17:53, Tim Woodall wrote: I would like to have some WORM memory for my backups. At the moment they're copied to an archive machine using a chrooted unprivileged user and then moved via a cron job so that that user cannot delete them (other than during a short wi

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:03:07 - (UTC) Curt wrote: Hello Curt, >Unofficial denotes unsanctioned, unauthorized, unauthoritative, etc., so >the term quite naturally makes some people a little wary. And in the context of the installation ISOs, unfortunate. It works well. Or at least, that is m

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 Sep 2021 at 15:03:07 -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-09-20, piorunz wrote: > >> > >> fedora includes firmware, and i think they are serious about open source > >> > >> why debian can't do the same? > > > > There is nothing wrong about "unofficial" installer with non-free > > Unofficial de

Unclosed DVD-R or BD-R sessions ? was: Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Write only storage - DVD-R or equivalent Blu-Ray - > but make sure to end the session. Do you have BD-R or DVD-R with unclosed sessions ? (... and how come ? Burn programs normally close their sessions.) If so, then i would be interested in the SCSI log of a medium

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Write only storage - DVD-R or equivalent Blu-Ray Tim Woodall wrote: > I already do that but currently that means I have roughly one month of > backups on network accessible storage before I write to disc. I do a daily incremental backup on BD-R (plus three on BD-

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021, Marco M?ller wrote: On 21.09.21 17:53, Tim Woodall wrote: I would like to have some WORM memory for my backups. At the moment they're copied to an archive machine using a chrooted unprivileged user and then moved via a cron job so that that user cannot delete them (other th

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Write only storage - DVD-R or equivalent Blu-Ray - but make sure to end the session. Deletion - feed through a paper shredder. I already do that but currently that means I have roughly one month of backups on network accessible storage before I wr

Re: Write *once* storage (was Re: write only storage)

2021-09-21 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 9/21/21 10:21 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: . . . WORM is Write *Once* , not Write *Only* "Write only" storage is easy and fast - just throw things at /dev/null and they can never be altered (or read back). Quite. Or to paraphrase something I said, that actually got published in some magaz

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Marco Möller
On 21.09.21 17:53, Tim Woodall wrote: I would like to have some WORM memory for my backups. At the moment they're copied to an archive machine using a chrooted unprivileged user and then moved via a cron job so that that user cannot delete them (other than during a short window). My though was t

Write *once* storage (was Re: write only storage)

2021-09-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article you write: >I would like to have some WORM memory for my backups. At the moment >they're copied to an archive machine using a chrooted unprivileged user >and then moved via a cron job so that that user cannot delete them >(other than during a short window). Sorry to butt in, but I use

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:50:18PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > Well, chattr -i turns that off > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:29:07PM +, Toni Mas Soler wrote: > > I use to backup my iPhone's photo library using a stfp connection (all in > > the same directory in my PC). Thus, I can chattr +i

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
Well, chattr -i turns that off On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:29:07PM +, Toni Mas Soler wrote: I use to backup my iPhone's photo library using a stfp connection (all in the same directory in my PC). Thus, I can chattr +i the only directory needed and nobody can remove. I cannot understand why

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Toni Mas Soler
I use to backup my iPhone's photo library using a stfp connection (all in the same directory in my PC). Thus, I can chattr +i the only directory needed and nobody can remove. I cannot understand why chattr does not achieve you. Toni Mas GPG 3F42A21D84D7E950 Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Tim Woodall
I would like to have some WORM memory for my backups. At the moment they're copied to an archive machine using a chrooted unprivileged user and then moved via a cron job so that that user cannot delete them (other than during a short window). My though was to use a raspberry-pi4 to provide a USB

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread piorunz
On 21/09/2021 16:03, Curt wrote: On 2021-09-20, piorunz wrote: fedora includes firmware, and i think they are serious about open source why debian can't do the same? There is nothing wrong about "unofficial" installer with non-free Unofficial denotes unsanctioned, unauthorized, unauthorit

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread Curt
On 2021-09-20, piorunz wrote: >> >> fedora includes firmware, and i think they are serious about open source >> >> why debian can't do the same? > > There is nothing wrong about "unofficial" installer with non-free Unofficial denotes unsanctioned, unauthorized, unauthoritative, etc., so the term

Re: Message display settings by character encoding (was Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware)

2021-09-21 Thread Curt
On 2021-09-20, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2021-09-20 at 03:21, David Christensen wrote: > >> Your message displays strangely on Thunderbird (oversized Courier=20 >> font?). > > In my case, it displays with unusually-small characters and what looks > like a different font, not unusually large ones.

Re: Debian 11: Nvidia NVS 310 with nvidia driver freezes after two days

2021-09-21 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 19 Sep 2021, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 01:22:30PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: My Nvidia NVS 310 card with the nvidia 390.144 driver starts off perfectly, but after two days freezes: no reaction to keyboard or mouse action. This comes down, perhaps, to having both

Re: camera detection with the Zoom client

2021-09-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2021-09-21 09:50:37 +0100, piorunz wrote: > firejail is blocking access to USB devices or other peripherals by > default, correct? Well, not in Debian 11 (bullseye), but this is now the intent with the current version in Debian/unstable, and I wasn't aware of this (no announce in Debian's NEWS

Re: camera detection with the Zoom client

2021-09-21 Thread piorunz
On 21/09/2021 09:37, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2021-09-21 10:15:03 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: A few months ago, my webcam could be detected by the Zoom client. But this is no longer the case. When trying the zoom test meeting, I can't select any camera (I get "All cameras have been tested" /

Re: camera detection with the Zoom client

2021-09-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2021-09-21 10:37:39 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Hmm... I'm using firejail, and there is the same issue with cheese. > Thus this seems to be a regression in firejail. However, using firejail with --profile=zoom solves the issue. But I wonder why this is needed. -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web:

Re: camera detection with the Zoom client

2021-09-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2021-09-21 10:15:03 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > A few months ago, my webcam could be detected by the Zoom client. > But this is no longer the case. When trying the zoom test meeting, > I can't select any camera (I get "All cameras have been tested" / > "Select Camera" / "Tested 0/0"), and af

camera detection with the Zoom client

2021-09-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
A few months ago, my webcam could be detected by the Zoom client. But this is no longer the case. When trying the zoom test meeting, I can't select any camera (I get "All cameras have been tested" / "Select Camera" / "Tested 0/0"), and after going to the next test, the camera isn't available. My ma