Re: percent char '%' in sudoers file

2021-08-09 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 02:19:18AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > My copy (buster amd64) of lines 23-24 of /etc/sudoers looks like > this: > > 23 # Allow members of group sudo to execute any comm$ > 24 % sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > Is that '%' a comment char? No. It is a group indicator. It means

percent char '%' in sudoers file

2021-08-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
My copy (buster amd64) of lines 23-24 of /etc/sudoers looks like this: 23 # Allow members of group sudo to execute any comm$ 24 % sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL Is that '%' a comment char? The line numbers shown were provided by nano. I know, I know, please keep reading. Full disclosure: In a typic

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 02:51:02AM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > I think that switching support over to a different medium i.e. from e- > mail to Q&A-style will see a different sort of user participating. > Hence, the "community" one would find on the Q&A site is not there yet. This > explains

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 06:05:58PM -0700, Weaver wrote: > > So that's where I think the problems are and why I think it would be > > good to try separating the user support from the debate club. > > I'm afraid this conversation is a waste of time. I'm sorry you feel that way. It has felt

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 04:22:46PM -0700, Weaver wrote: > On 10-08-2021 09:01, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 10:19:19PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > >> I am asking the Debian Project to can this list in favour of an > >> alternate solution or else to make it strictly for Debia

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Weaver
On 10-08-2021 10:59, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 04:06:43PM -0700, Weaver wrote: >> On 10-08-2021 07:54, Andy Smith wrote: >> > I really don't want to get into calling out specific sub-threads >> > that have been ridiculously off-topic recently, They are not hard to >> >

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 04:06:43PM -0700, Weaver wrote: > On 10-08-2021 07:54, Andy Smith wrote: > > I really don't want to get into calling out specific sub-threads > > that have been ridiculously off-topic recently, They are not hard to > > find; there's just so many of them. > > That wa

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Linux-Fan
Andy Smith writes: Hello, On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 11:35:15AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > any ideas on how to make the situation better? To be honest I don't think that mailing lists are a very good venue for user support and I would these days prefer to direct people to a Stack Overflow-l

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Weaver
On 10-08-2021 09:01, Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 10:19:19PM +, Andy Smith wrote: >> I am asking the Debian Project to can this list in favour of an >> alternate solution or else to make it strictly for Debian-related >> posts only. > > I want to walk this one back a bit as ther

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Weaver
On 10-08-2021 07:54, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 05:01:50PM -0700, Weaver wrote: >> On 09-08-2021 07:33, Andy Smith wrote: >> > A lack of politeness isn't really debian-user's biggest problem. I >> > think debian-user's biggest problem is the lack of restraint >> > proli

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 10:19:19PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I am asking the Debian Project to can this list in favour of an > alternate solution or else to make it strictly for Debian-related > posts only. I want to walk this one back a bit as there's no need to destroy the community that exists

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 07:26:50AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 09:33:02PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > My only suggestion was a Stack Overflow-style question-answer site. > > Those aren't discussion forums. > > Two things: (a) SO is a commercial site. It has pa

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 05:01:50PM -0700, Weaver wrote: > On 09-08-2021 07:33, Andy Smith wrote: > > A lack of politeness isn't really debian-user's biggest problem. I > > think debian-user's biggest problem is the lack of restraint > > prolific posters have on posting every thought that co

Re: Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: > I'm trying to set up a Wi-Fi connection in Debian 11 with Xfce. In > previous Debian Xfce installations I found Applications -> Settings > -> Network Connections which offered a useful GUI. I'm on Debian 10 (Buster) and 11 (Bullseye)

Re: Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, August 9, 2021 9:46 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) > Roger Price deb...@rogerprice.org wrote: > > > I can't find the Netwok Connections GUI > > in Debian 11. Is th

Re: Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: > I can't find the Netwok Connections GUI > in Debian 11. Is there some additional package I need to install? Is the NetworkManager GUI for GTK installed? apt install network-manager-gnome network-manager -- Does anybody read signa

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 04:09:19PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 11:09:24AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [mailman, threads crossing month boundaries] > I'm fairly sure it will resemble mailman (<=2) in this respect yes. > But that's also how the Debian mailing list

Re: Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021, Roger Price wrote: I'm trying to set up a Wi-Fi connection in Debian 11 with Xfce. In previous Debian Xfce installations I found Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections which offered a useful GUI. I can't find the Netwok Connections GUI in Debian 11. To answer p

Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread Roger Price
I'm trying to set up a Wi-Fi connection in Debian 11 with Xfce. In previous Debian Xfce installations I found Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections which offered a useful GUI. I can't find the Netwok Connections GUI in Debian 11. Is there some additional package I need to install?

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 11:09:24AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: If it bears any similarity to classic mailman, then colour me unimpressed. My pet peeve with that one is that it cuts lists into month sized slices (which makes kind of sense when you want a month view, but puts you in an awkward p

Re: Error starting any Debian installation (on an AMD SEV enabled KVM)

2021-08-09 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 02:04:49PM +0200, Office onFocus wrote: > I cannot start an installation of a debian * .iso (install, live, ..) from > any installation medium. > > This problem affects all Debian images. There are no problems with Ubuntu or > CentOS! As soon as you > boot the ISO and cl

Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian

2021-08-09 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-07, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 7/8/21 08:58, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> Not "you're wrong", but "you can't prove it". >> >> To me, that's a tacit ADMISSION of guilt. > > > Ah I see another avid watcher of Police drama speaking here > Sherlock has left the building.

Re: Only One Side Speaker is giving sound

2021-08-09 Thread Anssi Saari
Rishi writes: > Regarding my earlier mail. I am using debian on my laptop so the > speakers are internal speakers. I also use windows on dual boot on the > same laptop and I face no such audio issue while using Windows. So, I > am pretty sure it's not a hardware issue on my laptop. If it works ju

Re: Only One Side Speaker is giving sound

2021-08-09 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021, Rishi wrote: Waiting for some guidance to resolve this. :) While you are waiting, check alsamixer - are both channels at the same level? Roger

Re: when will bullseye become stable?

2021-08-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 07:20:43AM +, Long Wind wrote: > it seems bullseye is somewhat behind scheduledo you have latest info about > release date? 14th/15th August - so this coming weekend :) All the very best, Andy Cater

Error starting any Debian installation (on an AMD SEV enabled KVM)

2021-08-09 Thread Office onFocus
I cannot start an installation of a debian * .iso (install, live, ..) from any installation medium. This problem affects all Debian images. There are no problems with Ubuntu or CentOS! As soon as you boot the ISO and click Install, there is no error message and the boot process begins again (l

Re: Only One Side Speaker is giving sound

2021-08-09 Thread Rishi
Regarding my earlier mail. I am using debian on my laptop so the speakers are internal speakers. I also use windows on dual boot on the same laptop and I face no such audio issue while using Windows. So, I am pretty sure it's not a hardware issue on my laptop. If it works just fine in windows and n

Re: Stuttering Gnome Debian Buster

2021-08-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 10:39:24AM +0200, solon wrote: > I'm using the open source radeon drivers that you get using contrib/non-free > and I've scoured google trying to figure out the problem. The only thing I > can come up with is that Gnome 3.30 is exceedingly slow, The first thing you should d

Re: bluetooth keyboard

2021-08-09 Thread mick crane
On 2021-08-09 02:47, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Does this help ? OK, it is no great hardship to wait a second or two. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: when will bullseye become stable?

2021-08-09 Thread Sven Hartge
Long Wind wrote: > it seems bullseye is somewhat behind scheduledo you have latest info about > release date? https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2021/07/msg3.html "We plan to release on 2021-08-14." Grüße, S! -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: bluetooth keyboard

2021-08-09 Thread deloptes
Klaus Singvogel wrote: > This means, that I can't change nor access my BIOS / UEFI settings by a BT > keyboard? It depends on the hardware and BIOS. Some newer especially with integrated BT would implement a HID driver, so that you could, but if it would work with each keyboard etc. no idea. It i

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 08:33:08AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 03:26:25PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > >To be honest I don't think that mailing lists are a very good venue > >for user support and I would these days prefer to direct people to a > >Stack Overflow-like site.

Stuttering Gnome Debian Buster

2021-08-09 Thread solon
Hello All, I have sort of hybrid media server as my living room PC. It's a Dual Xeon 2650L-V3 (24 cores total) with 32Gb of DDR4 ram. It functions as a storage server for my 40Gb Infiniband SAN, and as a regular fileserver providing both samba and nfs. It also runs three virtual machines using

Re: bluetooth keyboard

2021-08-09 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-08 6:14 p.m., mick crane wrote: > > I like the little generic bluetooth keyboards but it is annoying that > > when they go to sleep it takes a few seconds for everything to wake up > > so you can commence typing. [...] > It's also one of the > rea

Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]

2021-08-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 03:26:25PM +, Andy Smith wrote: To be honest I don't think that mailing lists are a very good venue for user support and I would these days prefer to direct people to a Stack Overflow-like site. I agree with you to some extent. I've wondered for a long while whether