Debian Linux keyboard mapping files ...

2021-06-30 Thread Albretch Mueller
there should be files mapping (most probably unicode) number <-> gliph for each language. From where can I get them? lbrtchx

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, > If I'm asking for help, I don't want to hear "try this, it's > dangerous" unless all other possibilities have been exhausted. > > If you want to start a thread "dangerous things to do to risk > your data", that's fine. Would you be stuck in something like YOU = ALL OTHER BEING ? Can you le

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer] - continue

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, > > > And there's most people on earth who don't give a minute thinking about > this. > > Ask any business manager, he doesn't give much interest in his computer > installation, as long one thing goes, what is it ? That the system > permit core operation for the company and profit conti

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, Note : Sorry Andrei if this message may seem to be wrote directly to you because in fact it's written to all the "you" around who may feel concerned. You got a direct reply because I was replying to your message. Again, this could be something not to be done. On 2021-06-30 7:58 p.m., Andrei

Re: Ibus info needed

2021-06-30 Thread tony mollica
Yes, that's the one. Thanks, IL KA, I went through it again and still the only thing I'm getting from the info is that Ibus handles different language inputs (characters) which isn't really needed if English is used and is pretty much already taken care of in Debian and other distributions r

Re: Buster on Win 10 Problems

2021-06-30 Thread IL Ka
> > > > Is WSL a hard requirement? As far as I know Debian runs quite well in > Virtualbox (make sure you install the guest additions). > Yes, I use it alot) It also runs well on the Hyper-V (which is a part of Windows), just make sure to disable secure boot in VM.

Re: Buster on Win 10 Problems

2021-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 29 iun 21, 09:28:00, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > First, let me assure the list that I am not trying to ignite a flame war. > > > > I have a legitimate reason for installing Debian Buster on my Windows 10 > laptop using Windows Subsystem Linux and X410. I have a very important > applicatio

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 30 iun 21, 11:44:42, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > Now here's what will amaze you... > You can do the same with a computer. > Take risk... > Make your computer unusable... Sure, it's a great learning experience. > Type "alias cd=rm -rf" In my opinion it's generally a bad ide

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 30 iun 21, 11:02:43, Thompson, Brian wrote: > > Is this mailing list usually used for philosophical debates, persuasion, and > primitive name-calling? Genuinely curious so that I can unsub if it is. It happens more or less every time during the freeze, as there are less problems to solve

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 30 iun 21, 05:57:19, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> > >>> I can only hope that one day someone will

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 23:40:54 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-06-30 18:56, Brian wrote: > > > > "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis > > > especially > > > when unexpected > > > Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list > > > and I'm > > > s

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread mick crane
On 2021-06-30 18:56, Brian wrote: "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis especially when unexpected Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list and I'm sure it's a one-off. It is inappropriate anywhere in public. You are not bothered by this?

Re: Ibus info needed

2021-06-30 Thread IL Ka
Do you mean this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Input_Bus ?

Ibus info needed

2021-06-30 Thread tony mollica
Good afternoon. I've looked through the docs and wiki about this application that apparently runs in the background but I'm not actually able to figure out exactly what this app is doing for me. So, what's it doing for me, and if I remove it will I notice anything missing in form or function

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 08:43:51 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/26/2021 01:32 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 06/26/2021 12:31 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > I thought we had established last year that you need to install the > > > initial system without Recommends: > > >

Re: [OT, maybe]

2021-06-30 Thread Weaver
On 01-07-2021 06:18, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 11:02:43 -0500 > "Thompson, Brian" wrote: > > >> >> Is this mailing list usually used for philosophical debates, >> persuasion, and >> primitive name-calling? Genuinely curious so that I can unsub if it >> is. >> > > If you've subscribed fo

[OT, maybe]

2021-06-30 Thread Joe
On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 11:02:43 -0500 "Thompson, Brian" wrote: > > Is this mailing list usually used for philosophical debates, > persuasion, and > primitive name-calling? Genuinely curious so that I can unsub if it > is. > If you've subscribed for any length of time, you'll already know the an

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Joe
On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:33:37 -0400 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > There's a old saying that state : > "Give someone a fish, feed him for the day, teach him how to fish, > feed him for life". > > That must be something that doesn't apply anymore. It never did. The second clause is

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 14:27:16 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: [...] > There are a bunch of loonies... A very nineteenth centrury word. This bunch of people have views that are due to some mental illness? Maybe a touch of empathy would not go unnoticed. [...] -- Brian.

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 14:45:57 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] I'm somewhat of a language nerd. I do love all words! Words are words. They exist. So why do they disappear from the language? I would suggest some consideration about using "cretin", "moron" and "lunatic" in public. Their histo

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-06-30 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-06-30 08:43 (UTC-0500): > I don't recall just when I > did it but I had tried including "install-recommends=false" somewhere in > the command line. It failed. > I start most install

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > > For people that I consider part of my community, I feel a higher > > standard of care is in order. > > > Haven't you ever tried to think of computing as a "no risk involved" > possibility ? > > If I accept that I may risk rendering the system u

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 14:45:57 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:31:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > >[...] > > > > > >>DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 13:31:37 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y > > > > > > That was the fucking point. > > > > Calm down.

Re: Artifical Intellignce ( was : X something)

2021-06-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:57:10PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > The only number I heard about was the number of 3 000 users [...] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ at the page's bottom. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Artifical Intellignce ( was : X something)

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, > Is this mailing list usually used for philosophical debates, persuasion, > and > primitive name-calling?  Genuinely curious so that I can unsub if it is. > I believe this mailing list is a unmoderated mailing list regarding subject that goes around user situation on Debian. Exact : debian-

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-30 11:59 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Now here's what will amaze you... >> You can do the same with a computer. >> Take risk... >> Make your computer unusable... >> Type "alias cd=rm -rf" >> Open all the ports and get hacked. >> Open all the p

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Thompson, Brian
On 30 Jun 2021, at 10:44, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, To summarize, there are basically two sane approaches to remote X clients: "Two sane approach" ? Okay, there's only two approach YOU believe in. That's it. There's at least a dozen of way to install a X11 network system

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Now here's what will amaze you... > You can do the same with a computer. > Take risk... > Make your computer unusable... > Type "alias cd=rm -rf" > Open all the ports and get hacked. > Open all the ports and not get hacked. > Take risk and loose not much be

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, > > To summarize, there are basically two sane approaches to remote X clients: > "Two sane approach" ? Okay, there's only two approach YOU believe in. That's it. There's at least a dozen of way to install a X11 network system. You don't have any a power to judge other than your own self. Y

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:07:24AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 04:35:13PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > BTW: the problematic thing is called "xhost +", not "xhost +x", which > > won't work... > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ xhost + x > > xhost: bad hostname "x" > > >

Re: the Amazing Poly

2021-06-30 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 6/30/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 05:57:45PM +0300, ellanios82 wrote: >> - the Amazing Poly : short & to the point [vimeo] > > ? Maybe this? https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/05/msg00241.html Cindy.. -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Ge

Re: the Amazing Poly

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-30 10:57 a.m., ellanios82 wrote: >  - the Amazing Poly : short & to the point [vimeo] > This could describe me... Except I don't consider myself Amazing, at least not more than anyone else. >  rgds > Sincerely, -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside https://www.polynamaude.ca/ https://w

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 04:35:13PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > BTW: the problematic thing is called "xhost +", not "xhost +x", which > won't work... > > tomas@trotzki:~$ xhost + x > xhost: bad hostname "x" > > ...unless there's a host in your network named "x" :-) xhost was mentioned b

Re: the Amazing Poly

2021-06-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 05:57:45PM +0300, ellanios82 wrote: >  - the Amazing Poly : short & to the point [vimeo] ? - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

re: the Amazing Poly

2021-06-30 Thread ellanios82
 - the Amazing Poly : short & to the point [vimeo] .  rgds .

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:16:37AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, [...] > I didn't have in mind any type of murder or long lasting damage of any soft. Still, it's a pretty violent metaphor, I think we can agree on that. And perhaps somewhat off-tone for a mailing list with r

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:33:37AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, [...] > I was the stupid and dumb person who started talking about "the classic > way" of authentication using X11. Uh, whatever. I don't think you're stupid. I don't think *you* think you're stupid. So I'm ig

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-06-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/26/2021 01:32 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/26/2021 12:31 PM, David Wright wrote: [snip] I thought we had established last year that you need to install the initial system without Recommends: That is EXPLICITLY my goal. I vaguely recall attempting to follow some suggestions which did

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, >> [1] I'm somewhat of a language nerd. I do love all words! >> > I too am a language nerd. It is terribly fascinating how a particular > word, regardless of things like history and etymology can come to be > considered a "bad word" all on its own in any context. Other words are > "bad" only

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-06-30 at 09:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 5:57 a.m., The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Yes, whatever great idea you have, even if others are wrong in >>> what they say. Nothing justify being r

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-30 5:59 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > >> DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y >> >> That was the fucking point. > > Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart, > but there's no need to b

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-30 5:57 a.m., The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> I can only hope that one day someone w

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

2021-06-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 02:45:57PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:31:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > >[...] > > > > > >>DO NOT USE xhost + WITH s

Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

2021-06-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:31:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y > >> > >>That was the fucking point. > > > >Calm down. I underst

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread mick crane
On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y That was the fucking point. Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart, but there's no need to be so vitriolic and borderli

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y > > That was the fucking point. Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart, but there's no need to be so vitriolic and borderline insulting about it. There are nicer way

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >>> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a >>> shovel in the face because yo

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >>> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a >>> shovel in the face because yo

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 05:23:49AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> > >> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in > >> t

Re: Buster on Win 10 Problems

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Curt wrote: > On 2021-06-29, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: >> >> The Application Manager Logout function will only allow Logout; Restart and >> Shutdown are grayed out. > > ... > >> On the System level, clicking on the Synaptic Package Manager entry in the >> pulldown m

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in >> the face because you said something wrong. This will be a great day and >> you'll get back what

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in > the face because you said something wrong. This will be a great day and > you'll get back what you serve to others. Seriously? > This is a figure of

Re: Buster on Win 10 Problems

2021-06-30 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-29, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > The Application Manager Logout function will only allow Logout; Restart and > Shutdown are grayed out. ... > On the System level, clicking on the Synaptic Package Manager entry in the > pulldown manual does not open the app; sudo synaptic in the Xfce

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 29 iun 21, 04:56:55, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > On 2021-06-28 11:13 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > (Avoid ANY proposed solution that talks about xhost. Seriously.) > > > Yes, solutions using xhost maybe a bit a pain in the ass but they are > also some of the nice one th

Re: Disappearing shim-signed after failed dist-upgrade

2021-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 29 iun 21, 22:41:10, Gareth Evans wrote: > > Even if I had made use of upgrade rather than dist-upgrade, presumably > a dist-upgrade would have been indicated here (by the existence of > packages kept back) and the same position would have resulted - ie. > having to wait for a potentiall

Re: Bullseye (mostly) not booting on Proliant DL380 G7

2021-06-30 Thread Paul Wise
Claudio Kuenzler wrote: > I currently suspect a Kernel bug in 5.10. You could try booting a bullseye install with the buster kernel, if that works then it sounds like you need a kernel git bisect. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel/GitBisect -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise s

Re: Buster on Win 10 Problems

2021-06-30 Thread Joe
On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:34:17 +0200 john doe wrote: > On 6/29/2021 9:07 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > > > > On 06/29/2021 12:46 PM, ellanios82 wrote: > >> On 6/29/21 6:36 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > >>> have dual booted platforms in the past, and would prefer not to > >>> do so to solv

Re: booting Debian default kernel with lilo results in kernel panic

2021-06-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Fourhundred Thecat <400the...@gmx.ch> writes: > How can I boot Debian kernel with lilo? I have a vague memory you may need to specify root option per image in lilo.conf. From my ancient lilo.conf: # Jessie stock kernel image = /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 label = "Jessie" initrd = /boot/init