Re: No space left when: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.10.0-5-amd64

2021-04-09 Thread Marco Ippolito
> Yes, and my impression/guess is that because 'apt' docs describe it > as being basically a front end with more convenient defaults for > interactive use, what happens when 'apt' is given these (or other > similar) options that it does not recognise as its own as documented > in the 'apt' man page

Re: different internet speed in debian and smart phone

2021-04-09 Thread David
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 23:39, kaye n wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:45 PM IL Ka wrote: >>> Device-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter >> ok, this is your card. >> Lets see output of >> $ iw dev [your_dev_name] > Pardon me, but what should I type for [your_dev

Re: Installing Debian from a hard disk with Windows to a USB stick

2021-04-09 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El vie, 9 abr 2021 a las 17:43, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z () escribió: > > El lun, 5 abr 2021 a las 10:04, Andrei POPESCU > () escribió: > > Hint: the mini.iso does support installing to the same storage device > > used to start the installer. It also needs internet access for basically > > everything, s

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread Lee
On 4/9/21, rudu wrote: > > To configure the printer, I first have to be able to ping it on the > local network, which every over computer can do. > And they can print all right, so this desktop must have some network > misconfiguration of some sort, I guess ... > It seems like trapped into a tunne

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 21:30:45 +0200 Linux-Fan wrote: > Celejar writes: > > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 20:48:01 +0300 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote: > > > > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all? > > > > Recently, I've used Int

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 09.04.2021 21:37, deloptes wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: I don't see any reason why your computer could not ping the printer, since you can ping gateway IP and access the Internet from it. I suspect printer's IP address has changed somehow, or it is in powered off state (some printers

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Linux-Fan
Celejar writes: On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 20:48:01 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote: > > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all? > > Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Studio, and I'd like to > > set up an OwnCloud server wh

Re: Boot better have mounted on root or /boot ?

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:37:22PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > apt show grml-rescueboot > > Thanks muchly! Seconded :) -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Boot better have mounted on root or /boot ?

2021-04-09 Thread Dan Ritter
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > apt show grml-rescueboot Thanks muchly! -dsr-

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 20:48:01 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote: > > > > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all? > > Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Studio, and I'd like to > > set up an OwnCloud server when I get a cha

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Brian
On Fri 09 Apr 2021 at 20:43:58 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 09 apr 21, 06:34:32, riveravaldez wrote: > > On 4/9/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > > Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient? > > > > Well, that's a pretty subjective issue, to be honest... ;) > > > > >

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 11:41:56, rudu wrote: > > I paste here a few commands I passed when remotely connected to the > problematic machine (sorry for the french locale). You can always prepend 'LANG=C.UTF-8' to get the output in English. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebian

Re: Using a remote computer and VGA

2021-04-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 14:06:10, Richmond wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Richmond wrote: > >> Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote > >> computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on > >> L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move t

Re: Boot better have mounted on root or /boot ?

2021-04-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 09:14:31, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:07:04AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 08 apr 21, 07:21:04, Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE wrote: > > > On Donnerstag, 8. April 2021 02:15:00 -04 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > > > For me the simplicity of having 'bo

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote: > > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all? > Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Studio, and I'd like to > set up an OwnCloud server when I get a chance. These, and many other > complex / fast-changing applications ar

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 06:34:32, riveravaldez wrote: > On 4/9/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient? > > Well, that's a pretty subjective issue, to be honest... ;) > > > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable? > > Not sure if

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:23:59PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 09 apr 21, 13:39:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:09:31PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > > > > > Now, I have develop a few small applications who do not have much users > > > and are not in the po

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 13:39:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:09:31PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > > > Now, I have develop a few small applications who do not have much users > > and are not in the position to integrate the distribution. For the few > > users of these pro

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread mick crane
On 2021-04-09 10:41, rudu wrote: Hi, First, I tried to understand why a single machine among others couldn't print on the local printer. So I tried to ping the printer and it failed. The machine could nevertheless surf the web with no problem ... I paste here a few commands I passed when remote

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 11:01:13AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > But I'll bitch and moan loudly to my interlocutor. > > Good. > > > Perhaps I'll lie and say that I've got just a telephone or something. > > Better not: better tell them clearly why you refuse to use that tool. I forgot the ton

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread deloptes
Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > I don't see any reason why your computer could not ping the printer, > since you can ping gateway IP and access the Internet from it. > I suspect printer's IP address has changed somehow, or it is in powered > off state (some printers can power off themselves, if th

Re: Bullseye: exo-utils 4.16.0-1 and exo-preferred-applications???

2021-04-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:03:24 +0900 John Crawley wrote: > exo-preferred-applications has been moved from exo-utils > to the much larger xfce4-settings: > https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/exo/-/issues/51#note_21045 Thank you. As near as I can tell, exo-preferred-applications has gone away entirely. xf

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2021/04/09 at 2:51 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I still love the classical distro model: a stable base which doesn't > move too quickly (and thus doesn't require much of my attention), > which is well-vetted by maintainers (*thank you so much*), and a > cou

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2021/04/09 at 2:45 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > But that only really works out when the customer is nearly all-Debian, > which this one is. Like I said: not all the users are on Debian. Best regards. -- Yoann LE BARS https://le-bars.net/yoann/ D

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> But I'll bitch and moan loudly to my interlocutor. Good. > Perhaps I'll lie and say that I've got just a telephone or something. Better not: better tell them clearly why you refuse to use that tool. We have a duty to educate, I think. Stefan

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 09.04.2021 19:09, rudu wrote: Le 09/04/2021 à 12:08, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : On 09.04.2021 14:41, rudu wrote: Hi, First, I tried to understand why a single machine among others couldn't print on the local printer. So I tried to ping the printer and it failed. The machine could ne

Re: Using a remote computer and VGA

2021-04-09 Thread Dan Ritter
Richmond wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Richmond wrote: > > I have a pc next to the television which I use for watching netflix, but > it is in an awkward position to use, I want to use a different PC the > other side of the room to control it. A remote mouse and keyboard is > probably a better w

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 08:12:35 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:39:23 +0200 > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > Sorry, I meant NextCloud > > > > I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while. > > > > AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old? > > I use the zip package from

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:43:47AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-04-09 at 09:39, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:28:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Sorry, I meant NextCloud > > > > I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while. > > > > A

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:39:23 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:28:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > > > Sorry, I meant NextCloud > > I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while. > > AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old? The client is, but the server isn

Re: different internet speed in debian and smart phone

2021-04-09 Thread kaye n
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:18 PM David Wright wrote: > inxi -Fdflmnopuv7 (my own incantation) should say something like: > >Device-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 4000 bus > ID: 02:00.0 >chip ID: 8086:08b2 >IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: 01:23:45:67:89:ab > >

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:39:23 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Sorry, I meant NextCloud > > I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while. > > AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old? I use the zip package from the NextCloud web site. Once you do the manual install, it will update itself

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread rudu
Le 09/04/2021 à 12:08, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : On 09.04.2021 14:41, rudu wrote: Hi, First, I tried to understand why a single machine among others couldn't print on the local printer. So I tried to ping the printer and it failed. The machine could nevertheless surf the web with no pr

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 11:41:56AM +0200, rudu wrote: > Hi, > > First, I tried to understand why a single machine among others couldn't > print on the local printer. > So I tried to ping the printer and it failed. > The machine could nevertheless surf the web with no problem ... > > I paste here

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-04-09 at 09:39, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:28:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > >> Sorry, I meant NextCloud > > I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while. > > AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old? What package are you thinking of? When I 'a

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:28:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote: [...] > Sorry, I meant NextCloud I see. I kept myself confusing those two for a while. AFAIK it's packaged in Debian? Too old? > > I still love the classical distro model [...] > I fully agree, but the fact is that some really useful so

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:07:33PM +0100, Joe wrote: [...] > There's a lot to be said for web applications [...] Not my cup of tea. As a user, I downright *hate* them. As a devel (I'm currently working on such a PHP/Javascript nightmare myself), I pity the users. But there must be cup-of-teas f

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 14:51:29 +0200 wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:02:46AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:21:49 +0200 > > wrote: > > [...] > > > > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable? > > > > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:55:21PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:51:14 +0200 > wrote: > > > > > > Capitalists are like that. > > > > Non-capitalists (i.e. governments) don't need to be [...] (responded in private, to avoid starting an OT flood :) > > Up to now, I've avoided the

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Joe
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 14:45:31 +0200 wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:48:44PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > [...] > > > Concerning my own applications (they use a free licence), > > really, it is better not to engage any integration into Debian: it > > is not worth the effort nor for me,

Re: Using a remote computer and VGA

2021-04-09 Thread Richmond
Dan Ritter wrote: > Richmond wrote: >> Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote >> computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on >> L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the >> displayed browser window back to the X window on

Re: Using a remote computer and VGA

2021-04-09 Thread Richmond
Darac Marjal wrote: > On 08/04/2021 22:51, Richmond wrote: >> Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote >> computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on >> L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the >> displayed browser window

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Joe
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:51:14 +0200 wrote: > > Capitalists are like that. > Non-capitalists (i.e. governments) don't need to be, they simply imprison you if you don't do things their way. I still have a choice whether to use Zoom, etc., or at least a choice whether to install it on a computer I

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:02:46AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:21:49 +0200 > wrote: [...] > > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable? > > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all? > Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Stud

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:48:44PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote: [...] > Concerning my own applications (they use a free licence), really, it is > better not to engage any integration into Debian: it is not worth the > effort nor for me, my users and the distribution. You cannot integrate > a

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 04:15:07 -0300 riveravaldez wrote: ... > I'm still with the doubt. Even considering all this: which has better > (or less-worse) confinement, Flatpak or Snap (or AppImage)? > > Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable > use of some of these. A third

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:21:49 +0200 wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 04:15:07AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > > [...] > > > Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable > > use of some of these. > > Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient? > > Can you pose on

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2021/04/09 at 1:39 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> I have found some bugs in Musescore that are corrected on a higher >> version than the one available in stable. >> >> I need some functionalities available in Ardour 6, which is not >> available in stable.

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:09:31PM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > Hello everybody out there! > > On 2021/04/09 at 09:21 am, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable? > > I have found some bugs in Musescore that are corrected on a higher > vers

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2021/04/09 at 09:21 am, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable? I have found some bugs in Musescore that are corrected on a higher version than the one available in stable. I need some functionalities a

Re: No space left when: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.10.0-5-amd64

2021-04-09 Thread David
On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 23:33, Marco Ippolito wrote: > Gotcha. I like the long option names there, almost all of which are > immediately > suggestive of what the change of behaviour might be: > > --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act Yes, and my impression/guess is that becau

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 06:34:32AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > On 4/9/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 04:15:07AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable > >> use of some of these. > > > > Is it rea

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 09.04.2021 14:41, rudu wrote: Hi, First, I tried to understand why a single machine among others couldn't print on the local printer. So I tried to ping the printer and it failed. The machine could nevertheless surf the web with no problem ... I paste here a few commands I passed when remo

ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

2021-04-09 Thread rudu
Hi, First, I tried to understand why a single machine among others couldn't print on the local printer. So I tried to ping the printer and it failed. The machine could nevertheless surf the web with no problem ... I paste here a few commands I passed when remotely connected to the problematic

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/9/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 04:15:07AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > > [...] > >> Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable >> use of some of these. > > Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient? Well, that's a pretty subjectiv

Re: Using a remote computer and VGA

2021-04-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On 08/04/2021 22:51, Richmond wrote: > Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote > computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on > L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the > displayed browser window back to the X window on R

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 04:15:07AM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: [...] > Trying to decide which is less-worse in a scenario of unavoidable > use of some of these. Is it really unavoidable? Or just a tad less convenient? Can you pose one concrete use case where it is unavoidable? This may sound as

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-09 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/7/21, Dan Ritter wrote: > riveravaldez wrote: >> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, Brian wrote: >> > On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 11:20:58 +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote: >> > >> > I had occasion to install Zoom a few weeks ago;'snap install >> > zoom-client'. >> > Everything went smoothly and I quite like ha

Re: Boot better have mounted on root or /boot ?

2021-04-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:07:04AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 08 apr 21, 07:21:04, Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE wrote: > > On Donnerstag, 8. April 2021 02:15:00 -04 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > For me the simplicity of having 'boot' on '/' wins in most cases. It > > > avoids a lot of issues