Re: Please be respectful

2020-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 16 oct 20, 16:46:42, Leslie Rhorer wrote: > > On 10/16/2020 4:57 AM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > > > Feel free to ignore """lazy""" people from now on, but don't be > > irrespectful to them. > > > > You have no right to, and they don't deserve it. > > There is no such word - or c

Re: rsync --delete

2020-10-16 Thread Will Mengarini
* Mike McClain [20-10/16=Fr 17:09 -0500]: > [...] A section of the backup script is so: > Params=(-a --inplace --delete); > [...] > echo /usr/bin/rsync $Params --exclude-from=/home/mike/.rsync_exclude . > $Flash/mike Try this to be sure your shell is doing what you think: debian/pts/14 bash ~ 2

Re: How to add an origin to unattended upgrades?

2020-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 16 oct 20, 13:24:06, Charles Curley wrote: > > -- > root@orca:~# apt-cache policy | grep -i vivaldi > 500 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable/main i386 Packages > release o=Vivaldi Technologies,a=stable,l=Official Vivaldi package

Re: Please be respectful

2020-10-16 Thread Weaver
On 17-10-2020 15:05, Michael uplawski wrote: > Leslie Rhorer: >> Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone >> should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to think everyone >> deserves respect. > > This is where you are excluding yourself from the human community. Face > it. L

Re: Please be respectful

2020-10-16 Thread Michael uplawski
Leslie Rhorer: > Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone > should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to think everyone > deserves respect. This is where you are excluding yourself from the human community. Face it. Live with it. *We* will be fine, anyway. Cheerio (I

Re: rsync --delete

2020-10-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 17:09:42 -0500 Mike McClain wrote: > I've been using rsync to backup to a flash drive but it's not > performing exactly as I expected. You might look into rsnapshot. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: rsync --delete

2020-10-16 Thread D. R. Evans
Mike McClain wrote on 10/16/20 4:09 PM: > I've been using rsync to backup to a flash drive but it's not > performing exactly as I expected. > > The man page says: > --deletedelete extraneous files from dest dirs > A section of the backup script is so: > Params=(-a --inplace --d

Re: rsync --delete

2020-10-16 Thread ellanios82
- as stumbling newby , hesitate to express opinion : maybe something like : [ or what ever the destination is categorized] On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:27 AM Mike McClain wrote: > I've been using rsync to backup to a flash drive but it's not > performing exactly as I expected. > > The man pag

Re: rsync --delete

2020-10-16 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Mike McClain wrote: > A section of the backup script is so: > Params=(-a --inplace --delete); [...] Use instead: Params=-a --inplace --delete Regards, Klaus. -- Klaus Singvogel GnuPG-Key-ID: 1024R/5068792D 1994-06-27

rsync --delete

2020-10-16 Thread Mike McClain
I've been using rsync to backup to a flash drive but it's not performing exactly as I expected. The man page says: --deletedelete extraneous files from dest dirs A section of the backup script is so: Params=(-a --inplace --delete); Flash=/sda/rpi4b cd /home/mike [ ! -d $Flash/m

Re: Please be respectful

2020-10-16 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 10/16/2020 4:57 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote: The point - or my point anyway - is rather than seeking to tack on a whole bunch of poorly considered features to a poorly considered fundamental utility, well considered, powerful, highly configurable solutions such as "find" shoul

Re: OpenSSl encrpt and decrypt a String

2020-10-16 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 16 oct. 2020 à 15:58 de philipp.ew...@digionline.de: > i try to encrypt a String with OpenSSL but its not working as i want. > > echo -n "That's the text" | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -a -A -nosalt > I don't know if your question is just theoretical or if you have a valid use case beyond the b

Re: Activate Mouse on root tty1-6

2020-10-16 Thread ellanios82
apt install gpm : terrific : Brill !! - that fixed it . . . overjoyed :) . purpose is when using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to access tty1 it is great to be able to use Mouse. BTW, tty1 Fonts were Tiny-small , to improved size with : [ got font iso01-12x22.psfu.gz from somewhere else : don't r

Re: Activate Mouse on root tty1-6

2020-10-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:51:54 +0300 ellanios82 wrote: > what to try, please ? Try installing the gpm package. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: Activate Mouse on root tty1-6

2020-10-16 Thread Dan Ritter
ellanios82 wrote: > Hi List , > please : how to get Logitech Mouse working on > root tty 1-6 > I think you want apt install gpm but you haven't given enough info about what you actually want to do. -dsr-

Activate Mouse on root tty1-6

2020-10-16 Thread ellanios82
Hi List , please : how to get Logitech Mouse working on root tty 1-6 hwinfo shows : USB 00.0: 10503 USB Mouse [Created at usb.122] Unique ID: D9m5.sgQkEajDP63 Parent ID: DBwJ.DFkaVl_rzX0 SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb5/5-5/5-5.2/5-5.2:1 .0 SysFS BusID: 5-5.2:1.0 Hardware

How to add an origin to unattended upgrades?

2020-10-16 Thread Charles Curley
I have unattended upgrades running on a testbed laptop. I would like to add an origin to the list, but I don't think I am getting the entry quite right. The origin is for vivaldi, which has its own repo outside the Debian repos. I set things up according to https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrad

Re: Cannot install elixir from buster-backports

2020-10-16 Thread Brett Gilio
Andrei POPESCU writes: > > Bumping versions in stable is a no-go for Debian (Stable Release > Managers), with very few exceptions for very specific packages that have > few or no reverse dependencies (Firefox ESR and Chrome being notable > examples). > I meant in backports. But I understand.

Re: Iceweasel hangs

2020-10-16 Thread Brett Gilio
Tixy writes: > On Fri, 2020-10-16 at 19:56 +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > [...] >> Debian Jessie is not supported even as LTS anymore. If I was you then I >> would try to use FireFox binaries provided by mozilla.org. > > I would second that, or upgrade to a newer version of Debian. > Personall

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Oct 2020 at 11:23:13 (+0200), Jesper Dybdal wrote: > I currently have /home in the root partition.  I am considering moving > it to a different existing partition. > > Can I simply move the files and then make /home a symlink to /disk2/home? > > Or perhaps set up a symlink for each user

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread deloptes
Jesper Dybdal wrote: > Can I simply move the files and then make /home a symlink to /disk2/home? do this and it will be safe. I have a symlink in the root partition to real home for 10+ years. no risk

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 16 oct. 2020 à 12:23 de jd-debian-u...@dybdal.dk: > Is there a simple way to disable AppArmor completely until I've had time to > figure out what to do with it long-term? > Considering you are not asking for removal but just deactivation, the simplest way to me seems to be the following:

Re: OpenSSl encrpt and decrypt a String

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 06:24:31PM +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > Thank you! > > I have used this : openssl base64 -d instead of "base64 -d" .. You're welcome. Reco

Re: Iceweasel hangs

2020-10-16 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-10-16 at 19:56 +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: [...] > Debian Jessie is not supported even as LTS anymore. If I was you then I > would try to use FireFox binaries provided by mozilla.org. I would second that, or upgrade to a newer version of Debian. Personally I wouldn't go anywhere n

Re: Iceweasel hangs

2020-10-16 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 10/16/20 6:21 PM, Mick Ab wrote: > Iceweasel has been running okay on a Debian Jessie desktop for a long time. > > Lately, it keeps hanging. It was noticed that the following message > appeared in an xterm window : > > ###!!![Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: > PLayerTransaction::Msg_Releas

Re: OpenSSl encrpt and decrypt a String

2020-10-16 Thread Philipp Ewald
Thank you! I have used this : openssl base64 -d instead of "base64 -d" .. On 16.10.20 18:09, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 03:58:46PM +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: echo -n "That's the text" | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -a -A -nosalt gives me following "String": ttn39k7Yigle

Re: OpenSSl encrpt and decrypt a String

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 03:58:46PM +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > echo -n "That's the text" | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -a -A -nosalt > > gives me following "String": > ttn39k7YiglePLvmmc6s+w== Correct so far, assuming that you've entered a passphrase from the keyboard. > echo -n "tt

Iceweasel hangs

2020-10-16 Thread Mick Ab
Iceweasel has been running okay on a Debian Jessie desktop for a long time. Lately, it keeps hanging. It was noticed that the following message appeared in an xterm window : ###!!![Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PLayerTransaction::Msg_ReleaseLayer Processing error: message was deserialized,

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-10-16 at 16:59 +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > On 2020-10-16 16:39, Tixy wrote: > > Or do what I did, just uninstall the apparmor package which is > > pulled > > in as a 'recommends' of the Linux kernel. Or pin it to priority -1 > > for > > extra paranoia. > > > > Thanks. But will it

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-16 16:39, Tixy wrote: Or do what I did, just uninstall the apparmor package which is pulled in as a 'recommends' of the Linux kernel. Or pin it to priority -1 for extra paranoia. Thanks.  But will it not be reinstalled the next time there is a kernel update? -- Jesper Dybdal ht

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 03:39:29PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2020-10-16 at 13:30 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:23:30PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > [...] > > > Is there a simple way to disable AppArmor completely until I've had > > > time to figure out what

Re: Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Jesper, On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:28:13PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > I run a few Stretch systems on old processors that do not support the RDRAND > instruction. > > Can I simply install "haveged" on the Stretch systems *before* the upgrade > to Buster to avoid problems during the upgrade?

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-10-16 at 13:30 +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:23:30PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: [...] > > Is there a simple way to disable AppArmor completely until I've had > > time to figure out what to do with it long-term? > > Adding "apparmor=0" to your kernel cmdline shoul

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-10-16 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le vendredi 16 octobre 2020 à 14:12:55+0200, Jesper Dybdal a écrit : > > On 2020-10-16 12:35, Reco wrote: > > Barring some kernel bugs - yes. > > For instance, I've seen kernel panics because of simple: > > > > iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j DROP > > Aargh!   I had not reali

OpenSSl encrpt and decrypt a String

2020-10-16 Thread Philipp Ewald
Hey everyone, i try to encrypt a String with OpenSSL but its not working as i want. echo -n "That's the text" | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -a -A -nosalt gives me following "String": ttn39k7YiglePLvmmc6s+w== echo -n "ttn39k7YiglePLvmmc6s+w==" | openssl base64 -d | openssl enc -d -aes-256-cbc ec

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Do either of these run a risk of files under /home being needed before > /disk2 is mounted (it is in fstab)? No, a normal boot will typically never look inside /home at all, and if it ever does it should/will likely be quite late, definitely after mounting /disk2. So using symlinks like you sug

Re: Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 03:49:27PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 16 oct 20, 12:28:13, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > > The Buster release notes warn about a possibly insufficient entropy source > > during boot and recommends installing "haveged" on systems with that > > problem. > > >

Re: Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 16 oct 20, 12:28:13, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > The Buster release notes warn about a possibly insufficient entropy source > during boot and recommends installing "haveged" on systems with that > problem. > > I run a few Stretch systems on old processors that do not support the RDRAND > instruc

Re: Cannot install elixir from buster-backports

2020-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 15 oct 20, 21:53:30, Brett Gilio wrote: > > FWIW, I think this is an issue of backports needing a new build. > https://salsa.debian.org/eugulixes-guest/elixir-lang/-/blob/cf069ab098dd36f11d9ee49f818e6ecbab4f7114/debian/control > shows the same conditions, but I would guess that bumping erla

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-16 12:35, Reco wrote: Barring some kernel bugs - yes. For instance, I've seen kernel panics because of simple: iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j DROP Aargh!   I had not realized that I would have to be prepared for kernel panics during the upgrade, so I really a

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-16 13:49, Urs Thuermann wrote: IIUC, you have a directory on that disk where you want to move the home directories of your users i.e. /some/path/to/homes to, as well as some some other directories on that disk. You could then mount that disk to some mount point, say /data, and then

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Urs Thuermann
Jesper Dybdal writes: > Thanks for your response.  That would be the natural way of doing it > if I were partitioning a new disk.  But I don't want to do that, and > the target disk also has other data, so /home cannot be a complete > partition. IIUC, you have a directory on that disk where you

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > > On 2020/10/16 at 11:23 am, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > > > > Can I simply move the files and then make /home a symlink to > > > > /disk2/home? On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 01:43:59PM +0200, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > I'm already running my Debian with $HOME set to a different path: > /home.disk2/ > >

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Jesper Dybdal wrote: > > On 2020-10-16 11:45, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > On 2020/10/16 at 11:23 am, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > > > Can I simply move the files and then make /home a symlink to /disk2/home? > > You can, but I think a better way is to simply mount the partition as > > /home. > Thanks f

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Felix Miata
Jesper Dybdal composed on 2020-10-16 12:18 (UTC+0200): > Yoann LE BARS wrote: >> Jesper Dybdal wrote: >>> Can I simply move the files and then make /home a symlink to /disk2/home? I can't think of a reason why you couldn't, but maybe there is a reason that escapes me why you shouldn't. >>

Re: Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:28:13PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > Can I simply install "haveged" on the Stretch systems *before* the > upgrade to Buster to avoid problems during the upgrade? If you have a hardware random generator on these systems (i.e. you see /dev/hwrng there) - you

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:25:23PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > I have a lot of iptables rules. > > Is it correctly understood that the upgrade to Buster will automatically > install iptables-nft, and that iptablés-nft provides complete and compatible > support > for the functional

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:23:30PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > Buster enables AppArmor by default.  I know just about nothing at all > about AppArmor.  Does it constitute a risk that some of my existing > programs will not work? Depends. AppArmor is applied per-binary. If you're usi

Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
The Buster release notes warn about a possibly insufficient entropy source during boot and recommends installing "haveged" on systems with that problem. I run a few Stretch systems on old processors that do not support the RDRAND instruction. Can I simply install "haveged" on the Stretch sys

Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
I have a lot of iptables rules. Is it correctly understood that the upgrade to Buster will automatically install iptables-nft, and that iptablés-nft provides complete and compatible support for the functionality of the old iptables command, so I can expect my iptables scripts to just work? (

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/10/16 at 12:18 pm, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > Thanks for your response.  That would be the natural way of doing it if > I were partitioning a new disk.  But I don't want to do that, and the > target disk also has other data, so /home cannot be a complete partition.

Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
At some point I will have to upgrade from Stretch to Buster, and I am beginning to consider which problems I might run into.  So I have some more or less stupid questions that I will post in separate threads - this is the first. Buster enables AppArmor by default.  I know just about nothing at

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-16 11:45, Yoann LE BARS wrote: On 2020/10/16 at 11:23 am, Jesper Dybdal wrote: Can I simply move the files and then make /home a symlink to /disk2/home? You can, but I think a better way is to simply mount the partition as /home. Thanks for your response.  That would be the

Re: Please be respectful

2020-10-16 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le jeudi 15 octobre 2020 à 19:10:00-0500, Leslie Rhorer a écrit : > On 10/15/2020 5:05 PM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote: > > Le mercredi 14 octobre 2020 � 02:12:45-0700, Weaver a �crit�: > > > On 14-10-2020 18:30, Christoph K. wrote: > > > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700 > > > > Weaver w

Re: /home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/10/16 at 11:23 am, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > Can I simply move the files and then make /home a symlink to /disk2/home? You can, but I think a better way is to simply mount the partition as /home. For instance, I have a separated hard drive for my /home, h

/home as a symlink?

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
I currently have /home in the root partition.  I am considering moving it to a different existing partition. Can I simply move the files and then make /home a symlink to /disk2/home? Or perhaps set up a symlink for each user: /home/user1 => /disk2/home/user1? Do either of these run a risk of f

Re: Cannot install elixir from buster-backports

2020-10-16 Thread Baptiste Beauplat
Hi Brett, David, On 10/16/20 4:53 AM, Brett Gilio wrote: > David Christensen writes: > >> On 2020-10-15 01:52, Baptiste Beauplat wrote: >>> (Please CC me, I'm not subscribed to the list) >>> >>> elixir : Depends: erlang-base:any (>= 1:20) but it is not >>> installable or >>>