Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 10:26:09PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr, 2020 at 23:42:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > > [...] > > > > 2. Having completed a DNS lookup unbeknownst to the ISP, we still have > > > to make a connection to the resulting IP address through the ISP's > > >

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:34:30 -0500 John Hasler wrote: Hello John, >The company behind it offers such a service. I would be appalled if >Debian made use of it. TBH, if Debian wish to offload some of the 'grunt work' I'd have no issue with that. Of course, the supplier's ToS would have to be s

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 08:14:22AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I had to look up Neil McGovern to find out what "status" he has in the Debian > organization. IIUC, he was the DPL (I guess I learned an acronym) in > something like 2015, and he may now be the executive director of GN

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 14 Apr, 2020 at 18:00:41 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Liam writes: > > I think you misunderstand me. I'm talking about making a connection to > > an IP address that you have already obtained by (encrypted) DNS. For > > example, your personal bind instance tells you that www.debian.org > > re

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread Lee
On 4/14/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 07:03:12PM -0400, Lee wrote: >> dnssec just adds a cryptographic signature to the data -- everything >> is still done "in the clear" (like Debian updates. or has buster >> switched to using https for downloading updates?) > > The apt-tran

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Liam writes: > I think you misunderstand me. I'm talking about making a connection to > an IP address that you have already obtained by (encrypted) DNS. For > example, your personal bind instance tells you that www.debian.org > resolves to 130.89.148.77. Assuming you then connect to that IP > addre

Re: multiple desktop environments and performance

2020-04-14 Thread Anders Andersson
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:07 PM Anil F Duggirala wrote: > > I would like to know if having multiple (say 3) different desktop > environments would have an effect in performance of my machine, as > opposed to having a single one. If I have Gnome already installed and > then install Lxqt and Mate.

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 22:26:09 +0100 Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr, 2020 at 23:42:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > > [...] > > > > 2. Having completed a DNS lookup unbeknownst to the ISP, we still have > > > to make a connection to the resulting IP address through the ISP's > > > gateway. The ISP c

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:13:11 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > why would they be limited by whatever the OS supports? Surely their > > malware can easily include an internal DoH implementation, > > They needn't use DNS at all. Hard coded IPs work fine for reaching > their own serve

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 14 Apr, 2020 at 23:42:48 +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > > 2. Having completed a DNS lookup unbeknownst to the ISP, we still have > > to make a connection to the resulting IP address through the ISP's > > gateway. The ISP can perform a reverse DNS lookup of the IP address if > > they are deter

Re: HTML mail + PDF attachments

2020-04-14 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:19:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Have you examined the timestamps in the email header of such emails in order to see where the holdup is occurring. It may or may not be in the last hop. You embarrass me, David! It did not occur to me that the header would contain t

multiple desktop environments and performance

2020-04-14 Thread Anil F Duggirala
hello, I would like to know if having multiple (say 3) different desktop environments would have an effect in performance of my machine, as opposed to having a single one. If I have Gnome already installed and then install Lxqt and Mate. Would you expect to see any effect on the performance when us

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 06:25:24PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: > I have two reservations about the approach advocated by Reco above. > Maybe I'm not seeing some part of the big picture. > > 1. The risk of DNS snooping is merely shifted from the ISP to the VPS > provider. Usually you

Re: HTML mail + PDF attachments

2020-04-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 07:25:28 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 09:51:38AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > I suppose I need to reduce the limit of the number of messages > > > downloaded in a sesson, so as to enable more frequent checks for > > > incoming messages. > >

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 16:37, John Hasler wrote: > > Liam writes: > > I'm not familiar with bind. Does it work by consulting root name > > servers directly? > > It starts with the root servers and builds a database in exactly the > same way your ISP's DNS server does. In fact, it is probably what

Re: Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Ritter
John Berden wrote: > Listen! That helped! Unbelievable! > Thanks a lot! > And why is there no default volume? This is stupid! I'm glad it helped. Any idea which commands helped? When a virtual machine initializes its "hardware", it doesn't always do it the way that a real machine would. Having a

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Brad writes: > I /thought/ Discourse was a service similar to, say, google groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_(software) The company behind it offers such a service. I would be appalled if Debian made use of it. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Sven Hartge
Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:01:44 -0500 John Hasler wrote: >> Surely the Discourse server would be under direct Debian control. I was > TBH, I 'm not certain. I /thought/ Discourse was a service similar > to, say, google groups. Of course, if it's software, then yes, it > cou

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:01:44 -0500 John Hasler wrote: Hello John, >Surely the Discourse server would be under direct Debian control. I was TBH, I 'm not certain. I /thought/ Discourse was a service similar to, say, google groups. Of course, if it's software, then yes, it could be hosted anyw

Re: Can't get my Debian laptop to use my Radeon 520 Mobile graphics card

2020-04-14 Thread Martin
> $ lsmod | grep amdgpu amdgpu 4923392 0 gpu_sched 36864 1 amdgpu mfd_core 16384 1 amdgpu ttm 122880 2 amdgpu,radeon i2c_algo_bit 16384 3 amdgpu,radeon,i915 drm_kms_helper212992 3 amdgpu,radeon,i915 drm

Re: Gnome Screenshot not saving to clipboard

2020-04-14 Thread Paulo Roberto
No, I do have Wayland installed but I'm running Xorg: $ ps ax | grep xorg > 39677 tty7 Sl+3:13 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt7 -displayfd 3 -auth > /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 3 > No Wayland running: $ ps ax | grep -i wayland > 48911 pts/0S+

Re: Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread John Berden
Listen! That helped! Unbelievable! Thanks a lot! And why is there no default volume? This is stupid!

Re: Gnome Screenshot not saving to clipboard

2020-04-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 14 Apr, 2020 at 16:02:07 +, Paulo Roberto wrote: >Hello. >The gnome-screenshot a few updates ago stopped working properly. >It's not saving to the clipboard anymore. >When I run: > >$ gnome-screenshot -a -c > >It activates the selection cursor, after selection

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > why would they be limited by whatever the OS supports? Surely their > malware can easily include an internal DoH implementation, They needn't use DNS at all. Hard coded IPs work fine for reaching their own servers. They are also not limited to the usual ports and protocols when

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Brad writes: > ...it wouldn't be Discourse. It'd be a discourse variant, The patch adding the ability to disable the features in question would be sent upstream, of course. > It'd be a discourse variant, a fork, that somebody would have to host > elsewhere. Which could defeat one of the purpose

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 05:45:45 -0400 Lee wrote: > On 4/13/20, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:47:22 +0300 > > Reco wrote: > > > >>Hi. > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:46:38PM -0400, Lee wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> > I just did a quick search and couldn't find anything for smart T

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Constantine Ryzhikov wrote: > I'm blind, without Orca it???s hard for me to read the output. I made a > screen, but there is no audio, or is it on top. > > https://i.paste.pics/2502b2f2c2644bb7e19dbc9d7e2e7a8a.png I apologize for my assumption. The lspci snipped you showed did have snd_ens1371

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 11:25:59 -0400 Carl Fink wrote: Hello Carl, >Actually, since Discourse is Open Source, yes, it can. >Not necessarily easily, but it can. Point taken, *but*. ...it wouldn't be Discourse It'd be a discourse variant, a fork, that somebody would have to host elsewhere. Wh

Gnome Screenshot not saving to clipboard

2020-04-14 Thread Paulo Roberto
Hello. The gnome-screenshot a few updates ago stopped working properly. It's not saving to the clipboard anymore. When I run: $ gnome-screenshot -a -c > It activates the selection cursor, after selection it plays the sound. But nothing is saved to the clipboard. If I try to save it to a file,

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 apr 20, 10:35:57, John Hasler wrote: > Dan Ritter writes: > >There's this general problem: when you place incentives, even > > {etc.} > > Brad writes: > > Despite my relative maturity (read: I'm old), I've fallen prey to this > > myself, on occasion. > > Likewise. Guilty :) https://gr

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Dan Ritter writes: >There's this general problem: when you place incentives, even > {etc.} Brad writes: > Despite my relative maturity (read: I'm old), I've fallen prey to this > myself, on occasion. Likewise. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: DOH

2020-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Lee wrote: > Maybe I'm being naive, but I'm taking the clause "except as may be > required by law" to mean they can't just give the data to LE; there > has to be some kind of court order compelling them to hand it over. Reco writes: > Probably. But I fail to see how a court order will prevent such

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Carl Fink
On 4/14/20 10:28 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 06:54:19 -0700 Peter Ehlert wrote: Hello Peter, can that "feature" be removed? Only by lobotomising/killing the person. Oh, you mean at discourse? :-) Apparently not. :-( Actually, since Discourse is Open Source, yes, it can.

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 apr 20, 09:49:16, Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > To me "may or may not be a replacemnt" and "would be better of" are > > very far away from "I propose to replace X with Y". > > It is also rather distant from "Nobody is proposing replacing > debian-user with Dis

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread Constantine Ryzhikov
Installed it already. Does not help.

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread Constantine Ryzhikov
Installed it already. doesn't help.

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread John Berden
I'm blind, without Orca it’s hard for me to read the output. I made a screen, but there is no audio, or is it on top. https://i.paste.pics/2502b2f2c2644bb7e19dbc9d7e2e7a8a.png

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread Constantine Ryzhikov
I'm blind, without Orca it’s hard for me to read the output. I made a screen, but there is no audio, or is it on top. https://i.paste.pics/2502b2f2c2644bb7e19dbc9d7e2e7a8a.png

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 06:54:19 -0700 Peter Ehlert wrote: Hello Peter, >can that "feature" be removed? Only by lobotomising/killing the person. Oh, you mean at discourse? :-) Apparently not. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever im

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:38:55 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: Hello Dan, >There's this general problem: when you place incentives, even {etc.} Despite my relative maturity (read: I'm old), I've fallen prey to this myself, on occasion. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread John Berden
I'm blind, without Orca it’s hard for me to read the output. I made a screen, but there is no audio, or is it on top. https://i.paste.pics/2502b2f2c2644bb7e19dbc9d7e2e7a8a.png

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Glenn Holmer
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 3:45 AM Reco wrote: > [1] came to my attention today. To quote relevant parts: > > So, thoughts, options? > > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00074.html > -1 to newfangled fol-de-rol -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintag

Re: Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread deloptes
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > gmane.linux.debian.user > Good afternoon from Singapore, > > Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi? When I am downloading Debian ISOs, > do I choose the arm64 architecture? > > I am looking forward to hearing from you soon. > > Thank you. I booted in ras

Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread deloptes
John Berden wrote: > Hello. > I installed Debian 10 on Vmware 15. > And I don't have an audio driver! > I hear system beeps only. > How can i fix this? > Thanks in advance! First it needs to be enabled in the VM configuration and second I think you need to install extention (in the debian VM). I

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 apr 20, 07:32:58, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 07:03:12PM -0400, Lee wrote: > > dnssec just adds a cryptographic signature to the data -- everything > > is still done "in the clear" (like Debian updates. or has buster > > switched to using https for downloading updates?

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 14, 2020, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:21:14 -0400 > Dan Purgert wrote: > > Hello Dan, > > >Mine actually says "tested only in Lynx, if it doesn't look right in > >your preferred CLI browser, let me know" :) > > Which is fine. It differs from "Works best in" because y

Re: Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread Vincent Lammens
Op 2020-04-14 om 13:11 schreef Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming: > I will check out Raspbian. Thank you! > > On 2020-04-14 17:52, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Pure Debian, as noted, does not have the kernel tweaks to take full >> advantage of the R...pi4B hardware.  However, I have found that >> Raspbian

No Sound

2020-04-14 Thread Thomas George
systemctl status sound-card1.device     sound-card1.device - /sound/card1         Loaded: Loaded         Active: inactive (dead) System is Buster Debian 4.19.98-1 Upon reboot to Strectch Debian 4.9.38-2 sound works fine. Where should I look to correct the problem in Buster?

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 4/14/20 6:38 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:58:12 - (UTC) Curt wrote: My current Trust Level: Totally Untrustworthy. Until you've posted, and your initial post(s) have been proved to be acceptable (IOW, not offensive, off topic, spam.), yep. So

Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Ritter
John Berden wrote: > Hello. > I installed Debian 10 on Vmware 15. > And I don't have an audio driver! > I hear system beeps only. > How can i fix this? It's pretty likely that Debian would use your virtualized audio hardware if it was available, so it's probably VMWare's fault. Does lspci -vv s

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Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:58:12 - (UTC) > Curt wrote: > > >My current Trust Level: Totally Untrustworthy. > > Until you've posted, and your initial post(s) have been proved to be > acceptable (IOW, not offensive, off topic, spam.), yep. > > >Some Discourse "badges": >

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 08:14:22AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 05:56:39 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 14 apr 20, 08:19:50, Curt wrote: > > > > On 2020-04-14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > It doesn't ma

Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

2020-04-14 Thread John Berden
Hello. I installed Debian 10 on Vmware 15. And I don't have an audio driver! I hear system beeps only. How can i fix this? Thanks in advance!

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread Reco
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 07:06:05AM -0400, Lee wrote: > >> Right. The ISP can't see what names the user is looking up but > >> Cloudflare sees every single one. On the other hand, take a look at > >> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/DOH-resolver-policy > > > > An interesting declaration. For in

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:21:14 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: Hello Dan, >Mine actually says "tested only in Lynx, if it doesn't look right in >your preferred CLI browser, let me know" :) Which is fine. It differs from "Works best in" because you state you're prepared to do things to improve your

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 14, 2020, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 05:52:48 -0400 > Dan Purgert wrote: > > Hello Dan, > > >"Works best with Internet Explorer" :D > > That sort of statement on a web site is coming back. :-( Mine actually says "tested only in Lynx, if it doesn't look right in your pref

Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:23:36 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Hello Andrei, >I'm curious about that as well, if anyone is aware of a deployment. https://www.sympa.org/users/custom has a list. Sympa admits to the likelihood that the list may be out of date. Additionally, many of the MLs of the organ

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 05:56:39 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > On Apr 14, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 14 apr 20, 08:19:50, Curt wrote: > > > On 2020-04-14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > It doesn't matter much as nobody is proposing to replace debian-user > > > > with Discourse. > > > > >

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:24:14 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: Hello Sven, >> On 2020-04-13, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> There have, in the past existed gateways between mailing lists and >>> usenet newsgroups. They worked well, for the most part. >> I'm using one at this very moment. >Same here, read

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 11:46:39 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Hello Andrei, >To me "may or may not be a replacemnt" and "would be better of" are >very far away from "I propose to replace X with Y" The two former are clearly a precursor to the latter. Obviously, viability has to be assessed, hence t

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 05:52:48 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: Hello Dan, >"Works best with Internet Explorer" :D That sort of statement on a web site is coming back. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Words as weap

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:58:12 - (UTC) Curt wrote: Hello Curt, >Color me stupid but I mosied over to the test site and couldn't figure >out how to post. Maybe you gotta sign up (that must be it). It is just that. >My current Trust Level: Totally Untrustworthy. Until you've posted, and your

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 07:57:50 - (UTC) Curt wrote: Hello Curt, >As Brian P. has already sort of implied, some might find it hard to >believe in the total sincerity of a change to Discourse for debian-user >(a community of users for users by users) in the name of inclusiveness Well, quite. If

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 01:48:24PM +0200, n...@dismail.de wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 07:06:05 -0400, Lee wrote: > > Is there some other DNS provider that has a published privacy policy? > > That's anywhere near as good as CloudFlare's? > > > > To be clear - I'm not saying you should trust

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread nito
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 07:06:05 -0400, Lee wrote: > Is there some other DNS provider that has a published privacy policy? > That's anywhere near as good as CloudFlare's? > > To be clear - I'm not saying you should trust CloudFlare. It's just > that I don't see a whole lot of options & quite po

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 10:19:13 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 13 apr 20, 20:30:45, Brian wrote: > > > A similar, less constrictive, idea has been tried before > > > > http://shapado.debian.net/ > > > > and has failed miserably. > > Sadly this yet another instance where I end up findin

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 07:03:12PM -0400, Lee wrote: > dnssec just adds a cryptographic signature to the data -- everything > is still done "in the clear" (like Debian updates. or has buster > switched to using https for downloading updates?) The apt-transport-https package is available, but is n

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Sven Hartge
Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-13, Brad Rogers wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:33:13 - (UTC) Curt wrote: >>> There could be a channel to connect the pools >> >> There have, in the past existed gateways between mailing lists and usenet >> newsgroups. They worked well, for the most part. > I'm u

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Sven Hartge
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 13 apr 20, 22:38:11, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Same example from my circle of friends and aquaintances: >> >> - some use WhatsApp >> - some use Facebook >> - some use Mail (like me) > https://xkcd.com/1782/ Yes. S! -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
I will check out Raspbian. Thank you! On 2020-04-14 17:52, Rick Thomas wrote: Pure Debian, as noted, does not have the kernel tweaks to take full advantage of the R...pi4B hardware. However, I have found that Raspbian is "close enough" to pure Debian that I can easily exercise all by Debian ski

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread Lee
On 4/14/20, Reco wrote: > Hi. Hi > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 06:42:10PM -0400, Lee wrote: >> On 4/13/20, Reco wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:46:38PM -0400, Lee wrote: >> >> > The questionable idea behind DOH is that the browser makers do not >> >> > trust >> >> > your local resolver.

Re: Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread Rick Thomas
Pure Debian, as noted, does not have the kernel tweaks to take full advantage of the R...pi4B hardware. However, I have found that Raspbian is "close enough" to pure Debian that I can easily exercise all by Debian skills on it with almost no surprises. It's a nice little box! Hope that helps

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 14, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 14 apr 20, 08:19:50, Curt wrote: > > On 2020-04-14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > It doesn't matter much as nobody is proposing to replace debian-user > > > with Discourse. > > > > Nobody but Neil McGovern himself. > > > > https://lists.debian.

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 13, 2020, John Hasler wrote: > Kenneth Parker writes: > > On a Laptop of mine, I have an old version of Firefox, with the > > "NoScript" add-on. I wonder how it would work there. > > Works ok for a casual test. I have no acount so I have no idea how it > would work for posting, though. >

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00074.html >> What about the mailing lists? >>This may or may not be a replacement for any particular list. >> Be specific! >>Ok... I think debian-user, debian-vote and possibly debian-project

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread Lee
On 4/13/20, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:47:22 +0300 > Reco wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:46:38PM -0400, Lee wrote: > > ... > >> > I just did a quick search and couldn't find anything for smart TVs >> > using DOH. >> >> Probably because they aren't there yet. A t

Re: Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Noted with thanks. On 2020-04-14 17:13, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:03:46PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: How about the latest Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 4 GB? I would refer you to this page to get the latest status: For

Re: Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:03:46PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: How about the latest Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 4 GB? I would refer you to this page to get the latest status: For the Pi 4, it claims "There is no support for it in the Debian ker

Re: Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
How about the latest Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 4 GB? On 2020-04-14 16:58, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 14 apr 20, 16:47:43, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good afternoon from Singapore, Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi? When I am downloading Debian ISOs, do I choose the arm64 archit

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-13, Tom Dial wrote: > > 3. I also know nothing about Discourse. Although the remarks so far in > the thread don't particularly make me want to use it, I don't find the > idea entirely abhorrent. Color me stupid but I mosied over to the test site and couldn't figure out how to post. May

Re: Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 apr 20, 16:47:43, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Good afternoon from Singapore, > > Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi? When I am downloading Debian ISOs, do > I choose the arm64 architecture? Depends on the model. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDeb

Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi?

2020-04-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Good afternoon from Singapore, Can I install Debian on Raspberry Pi? When I am downloading Debian ISOs, do I choose the arm64 architecture? I am looking forward to hearing from you soon. Thank you. -BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE- The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs): [The New

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 apr 20, 08:19:50, Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > It doesn't matter much as nobody is proposing to replace debian-user > > with Discourse. > > Nobody but Neil McGovern himself. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00074.html > > What abou

Re: Can't get my Debian laptop to use my Radeon 520 Mobile graphics card

2020-04-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
As far as I understand, kernel 5.4 supports your GPU. What is the outcome of the two commands $ lsmod | grep amdgpu $ find /lib/modules -name 'amdgpu*' The packages you try to install are not from Debian, maybe they are not up to date. Regards, Jörg.

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > It doesn't matter much as nobody is proposing to replace debian-user > with Discourse. > Nobody but Neil McGovern himself. https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00074.html What about the mailing lists? This may or may not be a replaceme

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 apr 20, 07:57:50, Curt wrote: > > As Brian P. has already sort of implied, some might find it hard to > believe in the total sincerity of a change to Discourse for debian-user > (a community of users for users by users) in the name of inclusiveness > and respectfulness (dixit Steve M.) t

Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

2020-04-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:07:12PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > [sorry man it just off message] > > writes: > > > ... > > But I'm just a dumb C programmer :-) > > Oh tomas! you awesome! > Actually i like C programmer(s) ^^^ Be careful. We are a bit like dinosaurs :-) Cheers [1] https://xkcd.com/145/

Re: HTML mail + PDF attachments

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 apr 20, 07:25:28, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 09:51:38AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > I suppose I need to reduce the limit of the number of messages > > > downloaded in a sesson, so as to enable more frequent checks for > > > incoming messages. > > > > What b

Re: DOH (was: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps)

2020-04-14 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 07:03:12PM -0400, Lee wrote: > On 4/13/20, tomas wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:46:38PM -0400, Lee wrote: [...] > Agreed. But how many home users have a local sys admin? That knows > how to configure the local resolver? > > OK .. on this list, probably most. But

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-13, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:33:13 - (UTC) > Curt wrote: > > Hello Curt, > >>There could be a channel to connect the pools > > There have, in the past existed gateways between mailing lists and usenet > newsgroups. They worked well, for the most part. I'm usin

PCIe USB3.0 Controller - slow write speed to SSD

2020-04-14 Thread pc_f...@bluewin.ch
Hello, I have a problem with all my PCIe USB3.0 controllers running on Debian 10.3 64x - kernel 4.19.0-8 and the backports kernel 5.3.x They all have diffrent chipsets: VLI805, uPD720201, ASM1042A (latest firmware). I got on all those controllers the same issue: I only get 60-80MB/s write speed t

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 13 apr 20, 22:38:11, Sven Hartge wrote: > > Same example from my circle of friends and aquaintances: > > - some use WhatsApp > - some use Facebook > - some use Mail (like me) https://xkcd.com/1782/ Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Desc

Re: HTML mail + PDF attachments

2020-04-14 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 09:51:38AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: I suppose I need to reduce the limit of the number of messages downloaded in a sesson, so as to enable more frequent checks for incoming messages. What benefit would this bring? Perhaps once a month or once every other month, I a

Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 13 apr 20, 20:37:29, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:19:56 -0500 > John Hasler wrote: > > Hello John, > > >Though described as a mailing list manager Sympa has a full Web > >interface that might satisfy email-phobic millennials. > > It's not something I'd heard of. I'll chec

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 13 apr 20, 20:30:45, Brian wrote: > > If the proposer and supporters of the idea that debian-user would be > be better off in Discourse were prepared to engage here, we might have > a better understanding of the intention. I fear such engagement will > be conspicuous by its absence. It doe