Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Joe
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:46:36 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 18:00:25 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 29 July 2019 17:26:17 ghe wrote: > > > > > On 7/29/19 1:57 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > > Irrelevant in a domestic setting: it's illegal to have more > > > > th

upgrade from stretch to buster killed my KVM snapshots

2019-07-29 Thread Gary Dale
Apparently internal snapshots of a qcow2-based vm are problematic when the vm boots from UEFI. I found that out when my nightly snapshots stopped working after I upgraded a server from stretch to buster. Testing the effective line of the script with actual values, I got this result:   #virsh

Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-07-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/29/2019 04:08 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 11:56:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/29/2019 10:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/29/2019 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: [snip] Since your machines are very close together, take a look at USB to USB networking. Did

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, July 29, 2019 09:34:25 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > john doe wrote: > > What about Powerline (PLC), any better then Wireless with regard to > > security? > > All the useful Powerline devices are either connected to your > hosts via WiFi or ethernet, so that leaves them out. > > In a single-f

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 18:00:25 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 29 July 2019 17:26:17 ghe wrote: > > > On 7/29/19 1:57 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > Irrelevant in a domestic setting: it's illegal to have more than one > > > phase in an ordinary house. > > > > FYI, and significantly OT: > >

Upgrade from Debian Stretch to Buster moves files from /usr/share/vim/vimfiles effectively disabling them

2019-07-29 Thread Linux-Fan
Hello, I have just successfully upgraded 12 physical machines to the new Debian release (Debian Buster) and can tell that the upgrade runs very smoothly. Very nice job by all contributors, thank you very much! I have noticed, that files previously existing under /usr/share/vim/vimfiles have been

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 29 July 2019 17:26:17 ghe wrote: > On 7/29/19 1:57 PM, David Wright wrote: > > Irrelevant in a domestic setting: it's illegal to have more than one > > phase in an ordinary house. > > FYI, and significantly OT: > > I don't think that's true in the US. Not in Austin, Texas anyway. > Sever

Re: Debian Buster: Is it safe to use on autodefrag on a Btrfs filesystem that is used for (Restic) backup only with no Btrfs snapshots or subvolumes?

2019-07-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Btrfs is not my thing, but I looked at the reference that was posted, > and the Gotchas referred to within, and they mention log files having > tens of thousands of extents. Doesn't sound very good. Maybe it doesn't sound very good, but except for very specific circumstances, it makes no visible

Re: Upgrading from Stretch to Buster with docker 3rd party installed

2019-07-29 Thread Linux-Fan
James Allsopp writes: Hi, I was going to upgrade to Buster, but I've got docker installed  and am running a container as an ldap server. Consequently I don't want to get rid of it, but the install guide I read suggested removing all 3rd-party repositories before starting. This is the cur

Re: Debian Buster: Is it safe to use on autodefrag on a Btrfs filesystem that is used for (Restic) backup only with no Btrfs snapshots or subvolumes?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 14:07:25 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Is it safe to use autodefrag for my use case? > > It sounds like it might be "safe" (the text doesn't actually say it's > unsafe, but just that it has downsides). > > I do wonder why you'd want to do that, tho. Fragmentation is ty

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread ghe
On 7/29/19 1:57 PM, David Wright wrote: > Irrelevant in a domestic setting: it's illegal to have more than one > phase in an ordinary house. FYI, and significantly OT: I don't think that's true in the US. Not in Austin, Texas anyway. Several years ago I knew a woman down there who said she had

Re: updmap-user: command not found

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 19:56:32 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-29, wrote: > > > > (this is an oldstable Debian). > > > > Perhaps the thing you're looking for is simply spelt "updmap"? > > > curty@einstein:~$ apt-cache show texlive-base | grep -i updmap > updmap-map -- > > So simply spelt '

Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 11:56:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/29/2019 10:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 07/29/2019 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > [snip] > > > Since your machines are very close together, take a look at USB to USB > > > networking. > > > > Did ;} One of the firs

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 21:02:45 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:57:38 -0500 David Wright > wrote: > > On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 20:43:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:26:14 -0500 John Hasler > > > wrote: > > > > They don't have to be on the same branch circuit: just

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 10:26:14 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > They don't have to be on the same branch circuit: just on the same > "phase"[1]. There is probably a gadget available that bridges the > signal between phases. > > [1] They aren't really phases but everyone calls them that. Yes, the po

Re: Upgrading from Stretch to Buster with docker 3rd party installed

2019-07-29 Thread Judah Richardson
I upgraded just fine with 3rd party repositories enabled. What you might want to do is ensure the repositories match the Debian version you're upgrading to. Typically repositories that do different builds for different Debian versions put the version in the repository URL. So check whether any suc

Upgrading from Stretch to Buster with docker 3rd party installed

2019-07-29 Thread James Allsopp
Hi, I was going to upgrade to Buster, but I've got docker installed and am running a container as an ldap server. Consequently I don't want to get rid of it, but the install guide I read suggested removing all 3rd-party repositories before starting. This is the current situatioin with my sources

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Joe
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:57:38 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 20:43:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:26:14 -0500 John Hasler > > wrote: > > > They don't have to be on the same branch circuit: just on the same > > > "phase"[1]. There is probably a gadget availa

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 20:43:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:26:14 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > > > They don't have to be on the same branch circuit: just on the same > > "phase"[1]. There is probably a gadget available that bridges the > > signal between phases. > > > > [1] They a

Re: updmap-user: command not found

2019-07-29 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-29, wrote: > > (this is an oldstable Debian). > > Perhaps the thing you're looking for is simply spelt "updmap"? curty@einstein:~$ apt-cache show texlive-base | grep -i updmap updmap-map -- So simply spelt 'updmap-map', I guess. > Cheers -- “We are all in the gutter, but some

Re: updmap-user: command not found

2019-07-29 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 08:25:42PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi all. > > On my Debian Stretch box, the `updmap-user' command is declared `not found' > although the package texlive-base is installed. Why? > > Please help. Those are the similar commands I see: tomas@trotzki:~$ man -k updm

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Joe
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:26:14 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > They don't have to be on the same branch circuit: just on the same > "phase"[1]. There is probably a gadget available that bridges the > signal between phases. > > > [1] They aren't really phases but everyone calls them that. They are in

updmap-user: command not found

2019-07-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all. On my Debian Stretch box, the `updmap-user' command is declared `not found' although the package texlive-base is installed. Why? Please help. Thanks in advance, Rodolfo

Re: Debian Buster: Is it safe to use on autodefrag on a Btrfs filesystem that is used for (Restic) backup only with no Btrfs snapshots or subvolumes?

2019-07-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Is it safe to use autodefrag for my use case? It sounds like it might be "safe" (the text doesn't actually say it's unsafe, but just that it has downsides). I do wonder why you'd want to do that, tho. Fragmentation is typically something that clueless Windows users worry about (a left over fro

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:51:24 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/29/2019 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > [snip] > > Since your machines are very close together, take a look at USB to USB > > networking. > > Did ;} One of the first things I thought of as I date back days of > everyone havi

PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-07-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/29/2019 10:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/29/2019 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: [snip] Since your machines are very close together, take a look at USB to USB networking. Did ;} One of the first things I thought of as I date back days of everyone having multiple RS-232 null modems.

Re: Shimming HTTP to HTTPS.

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 09:22:24 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 28 iul 19, 19:40:04, David Wright wrote: > > > > The link itself is a URL as usual. For the message I'm replying to > > now, the Message-ID is and the > > corresponding link³ on the web page (under the magnifier) is > > https:

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 08:10:21 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 05:40:40 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. > > Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so I am only interested is > > wireless. > > I have only a few machines a

pastel prinouts on as brother ink jet.

2019-07-29 Thread Gene Heskett
Prompted on another list to run journalctl, I tried it on this machine running stretch Fairly early in the boot, I see this: Jul 22 22:33:41 coyote systemd-udevd[288]: Invalid rule /etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-brscan4-libsane-type1.rules:9: unknown key 'SYSFS{idVendor}' Jul 22 22:33:41 coyot

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Dan Ritter
David Wright wrote: > On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 10:05:19 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > It's possible that we're exceptional. > > Presumably you checked that you share the transformer? We get our > power from the poles on the other side of the street. Our neighbours > on each side get theirs from the

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/29/2019 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: [snip] Since your machines are very close together, take a look at USB to USB networking. Did ;} One of the first things I thought of as I date back days of everyone having multiple RS-232 null modems. Unfortunately the one I ended up with was ext

Re: Email client; was: Re: Threading.

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 06:15:42 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Reco > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:26:13 +0300 > > In short, please consider using another e-mail client. > > I compose the reply from the debian-user Web page. I don't know of a > MUA capable of reading a page and composing

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread John Hasler
They don't have to be on the same branch circuit: just on the same "phase"[1]. There is probably a gadget available that bridges the signal between phases. [1] They aren't really phases but everyone calls them that. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Debian Buster: Is it safe to use on autodefrag on a Btrfs filesystem that is used for (Restic) backup only with no Btrfs snapshots or subvolumes?

2019-07-29 Thread Judah Richardson
Hi All, First time on the mailing list. *System:* OS: Debian Buster with KDE CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 RAM: 8 GB OS SSD: 1 TB Crucial MX500 SSD, where /home folder is located. Formatted as ext4 Other HDD: 2 x 2 TB Toshiba L200 HDD, both used completely for Btrfs RAID1 (files and metadata) with a s

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:05:02 +0200 john doe wrote: > On 7/29/2019 12:57 PM, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 05:40:40AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> A concern is security issues. Bluetooth, being short range, may thus > >> have an advantage. Speed is not an issue for

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 10:05:19 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:34:25 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > In a single-family house, Powerline is about as secure as wired > > > ethernet: you need to come in and plug something in to spy on > > > it. > > > > Most

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 05:40:40 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. > Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so I am only interested is > wireless. > I have only a few machines a max of 6' apart. > My usage would typically be peer-to-peer but I want to

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/29/2019 09:21 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: A concern is security issues. Bluetooth, being short range, may thus have an advantage. Is there any real chance that criminals could get close enough to intercept your Bluetooth? I was viewing its short range nature as just a

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 05:40:40 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. > Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so I am only interested is > wireless. > I have only a few machines a max of 6' apart. > My usage would typically be peer-to-peer but I want

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 09:34:25 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > john doe wrote: > > What about Powerline (PLC), any better then Wireless with regard to > > security? > > All the useful Powerline devices are either connected to your > hosts via WiFi or ethernet, so that leaves them out. Most PCs requ

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 29.07.19 14:44, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:34:25 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > In a single-family house, Powerline is about as secure as wired > > ethernet: you need to come in and plug something in to spy on > > it. > > Most people won't have RF blocking filters at their house e

Go in Debian.

2019-07-29 Thread peter
From: Reco Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:57:19 +0300 > [1] https://github.com/tenox7/wrp This page has some information. https://go-team.pages.debian.net/packaging.html Can someone recommend a value for $GOPATH please. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon Tel:

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > Most people won't have RF blocking filters at their house electricity > inlet, so there may be some leakage to the next house that's on the > same phase. But if you are the only one on your transformer (common in low-density areas) you are safe from that. -- John Hasler jhas...@new

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett wrote: > A concern is security issues. Bluetooth, being short range, may thus > have an advantage. Is there any real chance that criminals could get close enough to intercept your Bluetooth? Could they do anything nefarious with it if they did? I'm assuming that you intend to use

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:34:25 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > In a single-family house, Powerline is about as secure as wired > > ethernet: you need to come in and plug something in to spy on > > it. > > Most people won't have RF blocking filters at their house electricity >

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Joe
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:34:25 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > > In a single-family house, Powerline is about as secure as wired > ethernet: you need to come in and plug something in to spy on > it. Most people won't have RF blocking filters at their house electricity inlet, so there may be some leaka

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Dan Ritter
john doe wrote: > What about Powerline (PLC), any better then Wireless with regard to > security? All the useful Powerline devices are either connected to your hosts via WiFi or ethernet, so that leaves them out. In a single-family house, Powerline is about as secure as wired ethernet: you need

Email client; was: Re: Threading.

2019-07-29 Thread peter
From: Reco Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:26:13 +0300 > In short, please consider using another e-mail client. I compose the reply from the debian-user Web page. I don't know of a MUA capable of reading a page and composing a reply to it. The boilerplate for a reply to a debian page is composed wit

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/29/2019 05:57 AM, Reco wrote: > > > > In short, nothing beats Ethernet in your typical household for > > conventional computing needs. > > Who said anything about *typical*? *ROFL* > I had considered Ethernet over a year ago. Went so far as to purchase an > 8-port

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 02:05:02PM +0200, john doe wrote: > > In short, nothing beats Ethernet in your typical household for > > conventional computing needs. Smartphones and tablets may convince you > > to use WiFi, but these devices are insecure anyway, so there's no loss. > > > > W

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 06:57:48AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/29/2019 05:57 AM, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 05:40:40AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > A concern is security issues. Bluetooth, being short range, may thus > > > have an advantage.

Re: kmail - several issues

2019-07-29 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-29, hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: > Hi folks, > > in the latest version of kmail (debian/stable) I discovered several > issues. As it might be possible, they belong together, I am just > describing it here. Maybe these are already known. > > 1. It is not possible, to print an email any mo

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread john doe
On 7/29/2019 12:57 PM, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 05:40:40AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> A concern is security issues. Bluetooth, being short range, may thus >> have an advantage. Speed is not an issue for my expected usage. (I was >> one of my ISP's last 6 dial-up clie

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/29/2019 05:57 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 05:40:40AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: A concern is security issues. Bluetooth, being short range, may thus have an advantage. Speed is not an issue for my expected usage. (I was one of my ISP's last 6 dial-up clients ;)

Re: IPv6 prefix delegation: avahi-daemon vs dhcpcd vs kernel

2019-07-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 29/07/2019 à 13:08, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Prefix delegation is a DHCPv6 feature. The kernel does managed it. Oops ! I meant "the kernel does NOT manage it".

Re: IPv6 prefix delegation: avahi-daemon vs dhcpcd vs kernel

2019-07-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 29/07/2019 à 11:07, Harald Dunkel a écrit : question about IPv6 support in sid: Whose job is it to bother about the IPv6 addresses dynamically bound to eth0? It depends what dynamic configuration method is used. SLAAC (using router advertisements) is in kernelspace. However some informatio

kmail - several issues

2019-07-29 Thread hans . ullrich
Hi folks, in the latest version of kmail (debian/stable) I discovered several issues. As it might be possible, they belong together, I am just describing it here. Maybe these are already known. 1. It is not possible, to print an email any more. When I want to print an email , I just get an emp

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 05:40:40AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > A concern is security issues. Bluetooth, being short range, may thus > have an advantage. Speed is not an issue for my expected usage. (I was > one of my ISP's last 6 dial-up clients ;) Both have their disadvantages in

Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-07-29 Thread Richard Owlett
Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so I am only interested is wireless. I have only a few machines a max of 6' apart. My usage would typically be peer-to-peer but I want to communicate between any two machines. My web connectivity is via

Re: IPv6 prefix delegation: avahi-daemon vs dhcpcd vs kernel

2019-07-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:07:50AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > question about IPv6 support in sid: Whose job is it to bother > about the IPv6 addresses dynamically bound to eth0? Kernel's, mostly. You don't need userspace to receive and process SLAAC. > AFAIU the kernel sees the p

IPv6 prefix delegation: avahi-daemon vs dhcpcd vs kernel

2019-07-29 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, question about IPv6 support in sid: Whose job is it to bother about the IPv6 addresses dynamically bound to eth0? AFAIU the kernel sees the prefix delegation on eth0, sets the old IPv6 address to "deprecated" and registers the new one. How comes that avahi daemon and dhcpcd and possibl

Re: GRUB on RAID0 software

2019-07-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 29/07/2019 à 00:26, Finariu Florin a écrit : Hi everyone, I can not install GRUB on Debian 10.It's fail every time. AFAIK GRUB supports RAID and most software RAID levels (only "linear" is not supported). How does it fail ? What is the error message ? What is displayed in the log console