Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:08:11AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: [...] > But a user of an archived Debian release wouldn't get an updated apt > which includes this new option. :-) Quite right: the best (s)he can hope for is a workaround. Perhaps th

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 01:06:02PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Since it seems that an archived Debian release is bound to have an > > expired key, would you agree that it'd be useful to have an option

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/19/2018 07:43 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-06-19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: You either subscribe to Owlett's idiosyncratic, infuriatingly wrong-headed, utterly intractable and narrow world or you do not. I [the OP] state: "Who?" "ME?" "Idiosyncratic?" *ROFL*, SNICKER, CHUckle, chuckle ;/ On

Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

2018-06-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:40:37 -0700 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 19/06/18 04:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > FWIW: I run old XP in a VM now. Actually, it performs better than > > running it natively. > > You too? I also run XP in a VM, and file I/O is wonderfully fast. > Even though XP think

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 08:57:14PM -0500, David Wright wrote: That's why we bought a toaster oven. A toaster is more efficient at toasting if the bread is thin enough, but a toaster oven performs that role and many others too. Except that it sucks for toast. :D

Re: Failure of cups printing.

2018-06-20 Thread peter
From: kamaraju kusumanchi Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:00:46 -0400 > The bug report says that it was fixed in 5.2.10~pre2-2 . You can try > installing that version and see if that solves your problem. This is in the current Debian 9. peter@computer:~$ dpkg -l | grep r-guten ii printer-driver-gu

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Ben Finney
Adam Cecile writes: > I still thinks it *sucks* to have no alternative then considering > packages signed by an expired key like unsigned packages The key is expired, which means its creator no longer claims it as their key. Any signatures found using that key, can no longer be known to be m

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Jun 2018 at 12:43:44 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-06-19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, June 18, 2018 11:27:55 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> So I think your cable is much less "Serial" than you think. > > > > Just because I'm tired of seeing this thread (even though I make an

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Jun 2018 at 11:12:18 (-0400), Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:04:01AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:27:24PM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: > > > Anyway, the command is apt-get install -y wget ca-certificates > > > > What happens if you remov

Re: netboot images for Debian 9 seems is broken?

2018-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Jun 2018 at 19:03:33 (-0400), mizuki wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 17:43 David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 20 Jun 2018 at 11:31:20 (-0400), mizuki wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Apologies for my lousy copy and paste, it is Debian (not Ubuntu), see > > > attached screenshot. > > > When this e

Re: Install matplotlib in Debian 9

2018-06-20 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Markos wrote: > > As I prefer more stability than "updability" I will install the package: > > apt-get install python3-matplotlib Mark has already given you some excellent advice. But in some instances, just apt-getting a package is not sufficient. For example, t

Re: Failure of cups printing.

2018-06-20 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
> I've reopened https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=748761 > but no response there. > The bug report says that it was fixed in 5.2.10~pre2-2 . You can try installing that version and see if that solves your problem. -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Failure of cups printing.

2018-06-20 Thread peter
Hi, Since upgrading from Debian 8 to 9, CUPS printing has failed with this log message. "/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertogutenprint.5.2" not available: No such file or directory Whereas, peter@computer:~$ ls -ld /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertogutenprint.5.2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42972 Feb 16 2016

Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

2018-06-20 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 19/06/18 04:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: FWIW: I run old XP in a VM now. Actually, it performs better than running it natively. You too? I also run XP in a VM, and file I/O is wonderfully fast. Even though XP thinks it's working with NTFS, on the metal it's actually a Linux file system

Re: netboot images for Debian 9 seems is broken?

2018-06-20 Thread mizuki
The image dated at Mar 4th 2018 which is the latest avaialble at upstream ftp.debian.org (file sizes, time stamps all matched with the upstream). Thanks Mizuki On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 17:43 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 20 Jun 2018 at 11:31:20 (-0400), mizuki wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Apologies for

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
writes: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:37:19AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: >> In theory, [allow-weak=yes] should work, but I haven't actually tested >> this. > > Since it seems that an archived Debian release is bound to have an > expired key, would you agree that it'd be useful to have an option >

Re: netboot images for Debian 9 seems is broken?

2018-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Jun 2018 at 11:31:20 (-0400), mizuki wrote: > Hi, > > Apologies for my lousy copy and paste, it is Debian (not Ubuntu), see > attached screenshot. > When this error, drop to a shell and run 'uname -r' returned *4.9.0-4.amd64* > , > I believe the kernel in Archive Mirror is higher 4.9.0-6

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Cecile
Oh nice, i'll check tomorrow or on Friday, thanks for this suggestion. Could help a lot with third parties repo using weak timestamp also. On June 20, 2018 7:37:19 PM GMT+02:00, Don Armstrong wrote: >On Tue, 19 Jun 2018, Adam Cecile wrote: >> On 06/19/2018 10:48 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: >> > On

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Since it seems that an archived Debian release is bound to have an > expired key, would you agree that it'd be useful to have an option to > accept such a key? Probably. I would not put my personal development time into if existing features don't alre

ferm systemd rasbian

2018-06-20 Thread basti
Hello, I know thats a bit offtopic. I have raspian as router os, all works fine expect ferm on start /reboot. If I use the default systemd.service on startup it hangs with "job waiting ... " without timeout and won't boot to login prompt. If I invoke the service with /etc/systemd/system/ferm.ser

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Curt
On 2018-06-20, wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 05:04:33PM +, Curt wrote: >> On 2018-06-20, wrote: > > [...] > >> What does this do? >> >> -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false update > > NOTE: this is just from what I understand from the man page, > apt.conf(5). This would disable to dis

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Cecile
Again, this is aim to disable Release timestamp validation, not related to gpg :/ On June 20, 2018 7:04:33 PM GMT+02:00, Curt wrote: >On 2018-06-20, wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:27:24PM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> I still thinks it *sucks* to have no alternative the

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:37:19AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: [...] > Hrm; it looks like apt has its own internal version of gpgv which > actually tests the time. Ah, at last someone in the know :-) Thanks! > In theory, [allow-weak=yes] should wo

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 05:04:33PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-06-20, wrote: [...] > What does this do? > > -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false update NOTE: this is just from what I understand from the man page, apt.conf(5). This would disable

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018, Adam Cecile wrote: > On 06/19/2018 10:48 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2018, Adam Cecile wrote: > > > That's a pity, don't you think so ? I think Debian should renew the > > > archive key, so we can still verify packages signatures. > > You can still verify them.

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Curt
On 2018-06-20, wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:27:24PM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: > > [...] > >> I still thinks it *sucks* to have no alternative then considering >> packages signed by an expired key like unsigned packages > > That was my impression too: there should be a separate option

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Cecile
Exactly, thank you. Actually I've been contributing to Debian a lot some time ago and I don't think I've been rude or something, so please show some respect. On June 20, 2018 5:57:45 PM GMT+02:00, "Roberto C. Sánchez" wrote: >On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:16:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:16:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:12:18AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > The output appears to be from a step in a Dockerfile. > > Then the Docker users should know how to use their stupid Dockers and > shouldn't require hand-holding

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Dan Purgert
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:12:18AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> The output appears to be from a step in a Dockerfile. > > Then the Docker users should know how to use their stupid Dockers and > shouldn't require hand-holding from non-Docker mailing lists. Is "set it o

Re: Re: netboot images for Debian 9 seems is broken?

2018-06-20 Thread mizuki
Hi, Apologies for my lousy copy and paste, it is Debian (not Ubuntu), see attached screenshot. When this error, drop to a shell and run 'uname -r' returned *4.9.0-4.amd64* , I believe the kernel in Archive Mirror is higher 4.9.0-6. That's why this is likely a bug to me. Thanks. 8606B41B-3A50-4E

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:12:18AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > The output appears to be from a step in a Dockerfile. Then the Docker users should know how to use their stupid Dockers and shouldn't require hand-holding from non-Docker mailing lists. Or IRC channels.

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:04:01AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:27:24PM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: > > Anyway, the command is apt-get install -y wget ca-certificates > > What happens if you remove the -y option? > The output appears to be from a step in a Dockerfile. R

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:27:24PM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: [...] > I still thinks it *sucks* to have no alternative then considering > packages signed by an expired key like unsigned packages That was my impression too: there should be a separ

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:27:24PM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: > Anyway, the command is apt-get install -y wget ca-certificates What happens if you remove the -y option?

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Cecile
On 06/20/2018 02:17 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 08:47:39AM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote:  ---> Running in 2300490ebb96 You didn't show the command that you typed. That makes it harder to give solutions. W: GPG error: http://archive.debian.org squeeze Release: The following

Re: Ntp not working

2018-06-20 Thread Mike
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 04:50:34PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > Attached ntp.conf > Attached service.text > OK, so your NTP servers are: pool 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst pool 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst pool 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst pool 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst What happens if you do:

Re: Ntp not working

2018-06-20 Thread David Baron
Attached ntp.conf Attached service.text On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 12:44 PM Mike wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:22:38PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > > Cannot find valid servers. I have the conf and hosts files from the > > > > distro.(Sid) > > > > > > Can you show the conf

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Cecile
On 06/20/2018 10:08 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/20/2018 9:55 AM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/20/2018 09:43 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/20/2018 8:47 AM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/20/2018 08:39 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/19/2018 10:55 PM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/19/2018 10:48 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 08:47:39AM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: >  ---> Running in 2300490ebb96 You didn't show the command that you typed. That makes it harder to give solutions. > W: GPG error: http://archive.debian.org squeeze Release: The following Is a warning. You can tell by the giant W.

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Cecile
On 06/20/2018 08:39 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/19/2018 10:55 PM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/19/2018 10:48 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2018, Adam Cecile wrote: That's a pity, don't you think so ? I think Debian should renew the archive key, so we can still verify packages signatures. Y

Re: Ntp not working

2018-06-20 Thread Mike
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:22:38PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > Cannot find valid servers. I have the conf and hosts files from the > > > distro.(Sid) > > > > Can you show the config file because not all have machine running SID > > or show ntpq -p ? > > > > > Fix? > > > > Ntpq -p

Re: Ntp not working

2018-06-20 Thread David Baron
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 12:01 PM Alexandre GRIVEAUX wrote: > Hello, > > > Cannot find valid servers. I have the conf and hosts files from the > > distro.(Sid) > > Can you show the config file because not all have machine running SID > or show ntpq -p ? > > > Fix? > > > > Ntpq -p yields "Connection

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread john doe
On 6/20/2018 9:55 AM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/20/2018 09:43 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/20/2018 8:47 AM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/20/2018 08:39 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/19/2018 10:55 PM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/19/2018 10:48 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2018, Adam Cecile wrote: Th

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Cecile
On 06/20/2018 09:43 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/20/2018 8:47 AM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/20/2018 08:39 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/19/2018 10:55 PM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/19/2018 10:48 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2018, Adam Cecile wrote: That's a pity, don't you think so ? I think

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 09:43:03AM +0200, john doe wrote: [...] > As other as pointed out if the expiration date is not extended on > the key your out of luck! :) > > https://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110209 Yes, exactly. Keys *have* to expire at

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread john doe
On 6/20/2018 8:47 AM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/20/2018 08:39 AM, john doe wrote: On 6/19/2018 10:55 PM, Adam Cecile wrote: On 06/19/2018 10:48 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2018, Adam Cecile wrote: That's a pity, don't you think so ? I think Debian should renew the archive key, so w

Re: Expired GPG keys of older release

2018-06-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 09:22:22AM +0200, Adam Cecile wrote: > Hello, > > > GPG key that signed the Squeeze repo is now expired. How should I > handle this properly ? Despite the key is expired, it use to be > valid and I don't like much the idea of

Ntp not working

2018-06-20 Thread David Baron
Cannot find valid servers. I have the conf and hosts files from the distro.(Sid) Fix?