Re: some questions about cfengine3

2018-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 08:30:44PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > I don't have experience with puppet. I am in the process of migrating a Puppet setup that's been in use and development for ~8 years to Ansible. Although it is a fairly simple manifest, managing only 47 hosts, the rate of change wit

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-27 Thread Richard Hector
On 28/03/18 00:19, Brian wrote: > I eventually settled on masterpasswordapp > because the re-creation aspect appealed to me, it was actively > maintained, the author's well-thought arguments were convincing > and (insofar as I could judge) it is secure. > > But it did take some time to come to a d

Re: apt{-cache,-get,itude} show wrong version of package after update

2018-03-27 Thread John Crawley (johnraff)
On 2018-03-28 02:50, Jean-Baptiste Thomas wrote: After apt-get update, attempting to install ntp tries to download version 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+deb9u1 and fails. It tries to download +deb9u1 because $ aptitude show ntp Package: ntp Version: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+deb9u1 State: not installed

Re: apt{-cache,-get,itude} show wrong version of package after update

2018-03-27 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 07:50:03PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Thomas wrote: > After apt-get update, attempting to install ntp tries to > download version 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+deb9u1 and fails. It tries > to download +deb9u1 because > > $ aptitude show ntp > Package: ntp > Version: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+d

Re: apt{-cache,-get,itude} show wrong version of package after update

2018-03-27 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoglu
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:50:03 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Baptiste Thomas said: > How is this possible ? I'm confused. In my Buster system the situation is like this: ~$ apt-cache policy ntp ntp: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-6 Version table: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-6 500 500 http

Re: some questions about cfengine3

2018-03-27 Thread deloptes
Morel Bérenger wrote: > I am not really constrained about mass storage (I mean, embedding a > Debian system on 1Gb is easy enough, and our systems does not have less > than 4Gb) but on bandwidth, so I guess I'm better to go with the > smallest (considering that no, python is not needed in our syst

apt{-cache,-get,itude} show wrong version of package after update

2018-03-27 Thread Jean-Baptiste Thomas
After apt-get update, attempting to install ntp tries to download version 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+deb9u1 and fails. It tries to download +deb9u1 because $ aptitude show ntp Package: ntp Version: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+deb9u1 State: not installed [...] and it fails because the version of the packag

Re: How to shut down

2018-03-27 Thread Felix Miata
Curt composed on 2018-03-27 16:42 (UTC): > Siard wrote: >> solitone wrote: >>> # systemctl poweroff >>> However, with the latter the system does shut down, although the >>> machine does not power off (I have to physically press the off >>> button). >> Here, 'systemctl poweroff', as user or as

Re: How to shut down

2018-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, solitone wrote: > What's the current best practice to shut down the system? In the old > days I used to: > # shutdown - h now > > but then I read of the systemd way: > # systemctl poweroff > > However, with the latter the system does shut down, although the > machine does not

Re: How to shut down

2018-03-27 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-27, Siard wrote: > solitone wrote: >> # systemctl poweroff >> >> However, with the latter the system does shut down, although the >> machine does not power off (I have to physically press the off >> button). > > Here, 'systemctl poweroff', as user or as root, does power off the > machi

Re: How to shut down

2018-03-27 Thread Siard
solitone wrote: > # systemctl poweroff > > However, with the latter the system does shut down, although the > machine does not power off (I have to physically press the off > button). Here, 'systemctl poweroff', as user or as root, does power off the machine, both in stable and testing. So the qu

Re: help identifying package for /usr/share/dict

2018-03-27 Thread David Wright
On Mon 26 Mar 2018 at 23:18:05 (-0700), James Powell wrote: > I was referred here by reportbug, which says > > "If you don't know what package the bug is in, please contact > debian-user@lists.debian.org for assistance." > > I have a bug to report (see emails below) against /usr/share/dict but >

Re: How to shut down

2018-03-27 Thread Dan Purgert
solitone wrote: > What's the current best practice to shut down the system? In the old > days I used to: > # shutdown - h now > > but then I read of the systemd way: > # systemctl poweroff > > However, with the latter the system does shut down, although the machine > does not power off (I have to p

Re: some questions about cfengine3

2018-03-27 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 02:44:18PM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: > Le Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:15:41 +0200, > a écrit : [...] > > It really depends on your needs/tastes/team. [...] > I am not really constrained about mass storage (I mean, embedding a >

Re: some questions about cfengine3

2018-03-27 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:15:41 +0200, a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:10:10AM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: > > Le Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:48:31 +0200, > > deloptes a écrit : > > > > > Morel Bérenger wrote: > > > > > > > I have several q

How to shut down

2018-03-27 Thread solitone
What's the current best practice to shut down the system? In the old days I used to: # shutdown - h now but then I read of the systemd way: # systemctl poweroff However, with the latter the system does shut down, although the machine does not power off (I have to physically press the off button).

screen freeze when attaching external screen through the dock.

2018-03-27 Thread BRINER Cédric
Hi, I have a buster laptop with gnome-shell (3.28.0-1). After doing a "apt dist-upgrade", my laptop freeze when connecting to an external screen through the dock. It seems that the CPU start to go high, as the fan increase its speed. Which file should I look to to better investigate the topic ?

Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-27 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 08:47:10 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 04:08:07 AM Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:38:33 -0400 > > > > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Yes, at least I think so, unless there is some standard for how > > > > > to handle passwords (inc

Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-27 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 04:08:07 AM Joe wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:38:33 -0400 > > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Yes, at least I think so, unless there is some standard for how > > > > to handle passwords (including changing them) on websites. I > > > > suspect that there isn't. There

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-27 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 03:57:24 AM Joe wrote: > Something I haven't seen mentioned: KeePassX does a kind of poor man's > two-factor authentication, allowing the use of both a password and an > arbitrary file in its encryption. So it's possible to store the file on > your computer(s) and carry t

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-27 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 12:56:24 AM Kushal Kumaran wrote: > Set the PASSWORD_STORE_DIR environment variable to point to your > location of choice. This is mentioned in the "Environment Variables" > section of the pass(1) manpage. Thanks! I missed that.

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 26 Mar 2018 at 21:02:48 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks to all who replied! > > I thought I'd summarize where I am: > > I like three of the suggestions (from what I've seen / investigated > (slightly) > so far, but with some comments: > >* pass: appeals to me a lot--the

Re: Printing impossible

2018-03-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Mar 2018 at 10:28:29 +0200, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > Ok now I am completely blocked. It results from the thread on the > bugreport that: > - I tried all I was advised, it does not work > - The upstream devs explain Debian is responsible > - No answer from Debian Printing team. You

Re: some questions about cfengine3

2018-03-27 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:10:10AM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: > Le Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:48:31 +0200, > deloptes a écrit : > > > Morel Bérenger wrote: > > > > > I have several questions about the cfengine3 package that can be > > > found in Debian.

Re: some questions about cfengine3

2018-03-27 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:48:31 +0200, deloptes a écrit : > Morel Bérenger wrote: > > > I have several questions about the cfengine3 package that can be > > found in Debian. > > if you have not to maintain legacy, I recommend ansible or puppet. > May I ask why? I must admit I don't know all t

Re: Printing impossible

2018-03-27 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Ok now I am completely blocked. It results from the thread on the bugreport that: - I tried all I was advised, it does not work - The upstream devs explain Debian is responsible - No answer from Debian Printing team. Well, I am out of idea and, as often, people upstream explain it is Debian :

Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-27 Thread Joe
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:38:33 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, at least I think so, unless there is some standard for how > > > to handle passwords (including changing them) on websites. I > > > suspect that there isn't. There may be some commonality in > > > websites generated

Re: some questions about cfengine3

2018-03-27 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 09:23:11AM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: [...] > Oh, I was confused by all my manipulations, I guess at some point I > installed something from the outside, sorry for that >

Re: some questions about cfengine3

2018-03-27 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Mon, 26 Mar 2018 23:22:37 +0200, a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 03:33:19PM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: > > Le Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:54:22 -0400, > > Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:37:08AM +0200, Morel Bé

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-27 Thread Joe
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:02:48 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks to all who replied! > > I thought I'd summarize where I am: > > I like three of the suggestions (from what I've seen / investigated > (slightly) so far, but with some comments: > >* pass: appeals to me a lot--the one pro

Re: help identifying package for /usr/share/dict

2018-03-27 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:18:05PM -0700, James Powell wrote: > Hi Debian-user, > > I was referred here by reportbug, which says > > "If you don't know what package the bug is in, please contact > debian-user@lists.debian.org for assistance." > > I

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-27 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-27, felmon davis wrote: > > a lot of the old grammatical categories have died out; the "dangling > modifier" error has gone the way of the "split infinitive". > > f. Yeah old Norman himself died out too I'm afraid, few years back. -- Bah, the latest news, the latest news is not the l