Re: Netinstall of Debian 8 on DELL laptop fails

2017-03-18 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Mar 2017 at 18:34:08 (+), Brian wrote: > On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 18:55:12 +0100, Klaus Jantzen wrote: > > > I am trying to net-install Debian 8.7. (Graphical expert install) > > > > After loading a couple of modules for the installation of the base system > > the installer claims that

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread songbird
deloptes wrote: ... > very good advise songbird > > we would usually dd the iso and mount via loop, then use either http or file > share to provide the installer to the client plenty of ways to get this done. i forgot to mention that i've had media go bad (both cds and dvds) and at that poi

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Mar 2017 at 19:23:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: > >>> Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not? > >> > >> I use to have friends like you when I worked in boat yards and > >> ships. They seemed to behave better while talking to someone with a 4" > >> pipe wrenc

Re: Re: claws-mail sending failure

2017-03-18 Thread Charles E. Blair
Thanks very much for your reply. I have an older machine running claws-mail 3.8.1 and a newer machine running 3.11.1. Some but not all correspondents stopped being able to receive messages from my 3.8.1 machine, while still hearing from 3.11.1. I changed the 3.8.1 "sent" configuration (whi

Re: tor -- way OT

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Glenn English: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:19 AM, GiaThnYgeia > wrote: > >> READ THE MANUALS ;) :P (just kidding!) > > Wow! Thanks for so much advice from the list. > > > Everybody said to get rid of privoxy, so I did -- there was no privoxy > on the machine Tor was on, but there was on th

Re: tor -- way OT

2017-03-18 Thread Glenn English
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:19 AM, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > READ THE MANUALS ;) :P (just kidding!) Wow! Thanks for so much advice from the list. Everybody said to get rid of privoxy, so I did -- there was no privoxy on the machine Tor was on, but there was on the server across the room that this

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread deloptes
songbird wrote: > as for space, space is cheap these days, it takes > a lot longer to load files from dvd for each install > instead of loading them from another media.  if i > were doing as many installs as you seem to be doing > i for sure would not want to waste my time waiting > for something

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: >>> Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not? >> >> I use to have friends like you when I worked in boat yards and >> ships. They seemed to behave better while talking to someone with a 4" >> pipe wrench in hand. Is this what it is about? Not having a wrench >> around y

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: >> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. >>> Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh >>> install to a different partition. >>> It is annoying to keep re-scanning a set of

Re: Netinstall of Debian 8 on DELL laptop fails

2017-03-18 Thread Brian
On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 18:55:12 +0100, Klaus Jantzen wrote: > I am trying to net-install Debian 8.7. (Graphical expert install) > > After loading a couple of modules for the installation of the base system > the installer claims that Would you please explain what you mean by "loading a couple of

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-18, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: >> On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: man apt-get >>> >>> It implies *BUT DOES _NOT_ STATE* the all the requested data is in the >>> /var/lib/apt directory. >> >> Stop pi

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Mar 2017 at 17:34:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: > > On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: > >>> > >>> man apt-get > >> > >> It implies *BUT DOES _NOT_ STATE* the all the requested data is in the > >> /var/li

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: > On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: >>> >>> man apt-get >> >> It implies *BUT DOES _NOT_ STATE* the all the requested data is in the >> /var/lib/apt directory. > > Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not

Re: Netinstall of Debian 8 on DELL laptop fails

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Rinse out the cd with distilled water shake it like crazy and wipe it dry with the softest of all cotton cloths. If it is not working still recycle it. Use a USB stick to put the iso on, it will last much longer than the system will have any use. Do not use the live part for installations, just u

Re: tor -- way OT

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
READ THE MANUALS ;) :P (just kidding!) Various steps 1 About vpn and reaching the tor gate, your ISP may be able to see that you are reaching out to make a connection to the various gates/nodes and you may not want that, as ISPs are passing all personal information to big-Sister. And you "ma

Re: programmatically determining the desktop environment of a system

2017-03-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Could i identify the environment by inspecting the file system (for > example)? (I imagine the answer there must be 'no', because different > users could have different environments but necessarily share the same > file system, but maybe i'm making some unjustified assumptions?) That's right.

Re: Netinstall of Debian 8 on DELL laptop fails

2017-03-18 Thread deloptes
Klaus Jantzen wrote: > This is wrong as I used the same CD to install Debian on my PC without > any problems. did you follow the same path for the installation on the pc - graphic + expert?

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh > install to a different partition. > It is annoying to keep re-scanning a set of 13 DVDs. > Where is the information stored? > /etc/apt/so

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/17/2017 10:43 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh install t

[Stable] Trouble with openvpn

2017-03-18 Thread Leandro Noferini
Ciao a tutti, I have a strange problem with a fresh jessie with the same configuration of the previous working very well. If I start openvpn with systemd (with "service openvpn start" command) or with the gnome panel command the route configured is only for the server and not the subnet for the v

Re: programmatically determining the desktop environment of a system

2017-03-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 08:09:31PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > Thanks Dominik, Steve, and Tomas for your mail. [...] > That is, i think usually the best practice is to do capability > detection (like the autoconf apparatus or jquery does) and then use >

Re: tor -- way OT

2017-03-18 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
Hello, First things first: AFAIK, just installing privoxy doesn't make it use Tor, it just acts as a regular proxy. Visit [1] to see if you're using Tor or not. In order to enable chaining through Tor you'll have to have a line like forward-socks5/ : An example line, as well as a d