Re: EUREKA!!!! - was [Re: Permissions for an entire PARTITION]

2016-10-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 18:34:10 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 10/28/2016 5:17 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 15:42:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>Be aware sir that you are the cause of: > >>multiple renditions of the "Alleluia Chorus" [courtesy Handle] at > > >>10^^Bels

Re: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 510 on GNOME

2016-10-30 Thread Richard Hector
On 31/10/16 06:45, Samuel Bächler wrote: > NAICT from Googling, Jessie's 3.16 kernel is too old to fully > support Skylake (August 2105 release) CPU features required by > Gnome, so you need a kernel newer than 4.1 (June 2015), and/or > Stretch (currently on 4.7). > > > I just ins

Re: Information about modules

2016-10-30 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 22:59:12 +0100 Datasmurf wrote: > Hello List, > > just a few moments ago I turned off the blinking of the wifi led on my > T61. I did that because I found a website[1] that told me how I have to > do that. I was wondering where else I could find information > like that?

Information about modules

2016-10-30 Thread Datasmurf
Hello List, just a few moments ago I turned off the blinking of the wifi led on my T61. I did that because I found a website[1] that told me how I have to do that. I was wondering where else I could find information like that? With FreeBSD I can always type in command line something like man dri

Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

2016-10-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 12:55:02 -0400 brian wrote: Hello brian, >(Note to Brad Rogers - no idea why I see the problem and you don't, Nor me, but the point remains; It does work, I just have no idea where to go from there. Web searches shed no light. :-( -- Regards _ / )

Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

2016-10-30 Thread Doug
On 10/30/2016 11:14 AM, brian wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for a program which will print PDF files **scaling them to fit the page**. This last part is essential! A program which just did expansion to fit would be a good second best. What *doesn't* work :- Acrobat Reader: It does t

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 19:58:19 +0100, deloptes wrote: > IMO hplip also supports multifunction devices. Correct. > If you want to use HP device only for printing ... non of this is required. Correct. It can, however, depend on which backend you want to send data to the printer if you are fussy.

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread deloptes
IMO hplip also supports multifunction devices. If you want to use HP device only for printing ... non of this is required. If you want to do a scanning etc it is understandable that a kind of gui has to be provided. It is funny to read your arguments while you are sliding into the Ric's "I think i

Re: new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread David Christensen
On 10/30/2016 04:56 AM, Pol Hallen wrote: > I bought a new notebook: i7 2.2Ghz, 8Gb ram and ssd 256Gb. > > Consider that small disk, can I install debian without swap? Does swap > still useful? For my SOHO LAN environment, I build my Debian Wheezy systems on a 16 GB SSD with 10% over-provisioning

Re: new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread Markus Grunwald
Servus Pascal, > > I once read that it was possible to swap to a named file, rather than a > > swap partition. > > Is that possible with Jessie? Creating (and using) a swapfile is easy, no problem in Jessie: sudo mkswap /swap.0 sudo swapon /swap.0 grep swap /etc/fstab /swap.0 swap

Re: pen testing beginner

2016-10-30 Thread shawn wilson
Also, there's tons of free help online (mailing lists - duh, irc, reddit, Twitter, and Facebook has helped me once you get to know the right people). There are also loads of security conferences and meetups (BSides, ISSA, 2600, etc). On Oct 30, 2016 13:54, "shawn wilson" wrote: > > I'll caveat my

Re: pen testing beginner

2016-10-30 Thread shawn wilson
I'll caveat my response by saying I'm not in this field - I'm a lowly sysadmin :) On Oct 30, 2016 00:01, "David Christensen" wrote: > > On 10/29/2016 11:50 AM, emetib wrote: > > have been a linux only person since before 2000 (late 2.2 early 2.4 > > kernels), yet haven't done much with it in the

Re: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 510 on GNOME

2016-10-30 Thread Samuel Bächler
On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Samuel Bächler composed on 2016-10-29 21:56 (UTC+0200): > > I have got a graphics adapter that is somehow integrated on the >> motherboard. [1] On this hardware I can use KDE but no GNOME. When >> installing GNOME I get the error message 'Oh

Re: Online resize of gpt+cryptsetup+lvm

2016-10-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 30/10/2016 à 17:53, Ian Jackson a écrit : When I partioned my new netbook I left myself a reasonable amount of space unpartitioned, in case I should ever want it. Well, of course, then I wanted it. Specifically, I have: SSD nvme0n1 containing GPT partitions; nvme0n1p6 is a LUKS volume conta

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 18:24:50 +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 14:20:44 + > Brian wrote: > > > > printer-driver-hpcups and printer-driver-hpijs would be sufficient for > > just printing. That is why the packages are provided. > > 'Should be' does not equal 'actually

Re: new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 30/10/2016 à 17:41, Ben Caradoc-Davies a écrit : RAM disks (tmpfs) Tmpfs and ramdisks are very different. A tmpfs is a filesystem in virtual memory (in RAM or swap) with variable size. A ramdisk is a block device (not a filesystem) in RAM with fixed size.

Re: EUREKA!!!! - was [Re: Permissions for an entire PARTITION]

2016-10-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 09:19:04 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, October 30, 2016 08:54:45 AM Brian wrote: > > There are some good things which have come out of this discussion. To > > use cfdisk, fdisk, dd, mkfs.vfat and grub-install a user has to be > > root. Being able to mount as n

Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

2016-10-30 Thread brian
On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 12:47:23 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Sunday 30 October 2016 12:14:51 brian wrote: > >> Does anyone have any suggestions for a program which will print PDF >> files **scaling them to fit the page**. This last part is essential! A >> program which just did expansion to fit wou

Online resize of gpt+cryptsetup+lvm

2016-10-30 Thread Ian Jackson
I don't know where to write this up really, so let me try debian-user. When I partioned my new netbook I left myself a reasonable amount of space unpartitioned, in case I should ever want it. Well, of course, then I wanted it. Specifically, I have: SSD nvme0n1 containing GPT partitions; nvme0n1p

Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

2016-10-30 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 31/10/16 05:14, brian wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for a program which will print PDF files **scaling them to fit the page**. This last part is essential! A program which just did expansion to fit would be a good second best. qpdfview has a "Fit to page" option in its print dialog

Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

2016-10-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 30 October 2016 12:14:51 brian wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions for a program which will print PDF > files **scaling them to fit the page**. This last part is essential! A > program which just did expansion to fit would be a good second best. > > What *doesn't* work :- > > Acrob

Re: new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 31/10/16 00:56, Pol Hallen wrote: I bought a new notebook: i7 2.2Ghz, 8Gb ram and ssd 256Gb. Consider that small disk, can I install debian without swap? Does swap still useful? I have not used swap since I switched to SSDs in 2009. This works only if you are confident that you will never u

Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

2016-10-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 30 October 2016 16:14:51 brian wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions for a program which will print PDF > files **scaling them to fit the page**. This last part is essential! A > program which just did expansion to fit would be a good second best. > > What *doesn't* work :- > > Acroba

Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

2016-10-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 12:14:51 -0400 brian wrote: Hello brian, >(9.5.5) will not print a *single* copy of a file. If you ask it to Happily prints one copy here. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" An old custom to s

Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

2016-10-30 Thread brian
Does anyone have any suggestions for a program which will print PDF files **scaling them to fit the page**. This last part is essential! A program which just did expansion to fit would be a good second best. What *doesn't* work :- Acrobat Reader: It does the 'fit to page' but the version I hav

Re: New install Jesse 8.6.0...grub2 problem

2016-10-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 30 October 2016 15:47:59 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:35:59AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > On 10/30/16, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 30/10/2016 à 13:13, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > >> On Thursday 06 October 2016 19:12:43 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > >>> The resul

Re: New install Jesse 8.6.0...grub2 problem

2016-10-30 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:35:59AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 10/30/16, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 30/10/2016 à 13:13, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > >> On Thursday 06 October 2016 19:12:43 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >>> > >>> The result of bootinfoscript would be a good starting point. > >> > >

Re: new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 30/10/2016 à 15:11, Richard Owlett a écrit : On 10/30/2016 8:52 AM, Markus Grunwald wrote: It migh be. Don't forget that you need some swap space if you want to hibernate your System! I once read that it was possible to swap to a named file, rather than a swap partition. Is that possible w

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 14:20:44 + Brian wrote: > On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 00:20:43 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:36:27 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > > > > On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > > Oh, and don't get me started on the way they pac

Re: pen testing beginner

2016-10-30 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/29/16, David Christensen wrote: > On 10/29/2016 11:50 AM, emetib wrote: >> have been a linux only person since before 2000 (late 2.2 early 2.4 >> kernels), yet haven't done much with it in the last ten years. ... > >> i'm looking at getting back into it and into pen >> testing. > > I assume

Re: New install Jesse 8.6.0...grub2 problem

2016-10-30 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/30/16, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 30/10/2016 à 13:13, Lisi Reisz a écrit : >> On Thursday 06 October 2016 19:12:43 Pascal Hambourg wrote: >>> >>> The result of bootinfoscript would be a good starting point. >> >> I have Jessie fully updated and aptitude can't find bootinfoscript. > > How di

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 00:20:43 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:36:27 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > Oh, and don't get me started on the way they package hplip. > > > > Please do. What is wrong with the packaging of hplip? > >

Re: new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/30/2016 8:52 AM, Markus Grunwald wrote: Hello Pol, Does swap still useful? It migh be. Don't forget that you need some swap space if you want to hibernate your System! (You can configure extra hibernation space. I never managed to get that right...) I once read that it was possible

Re: New install Jesse 8.6.0...grub2 problem

2016-10-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 30 October 2016 13:32:27 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 30/10/2016 à 13:13, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > On Thursday 06 October 2016 19:12:43 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> The result of bootinfoscript would be a good starting point. > > > > I have Jessie fully updated and aptitude can't find booti

Re: new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hello Pol, > Does swap still useful? It migh be. Don't forget that you need some swap space if you want to hibernate your System! (You can configure extra hibernation space. I never managed to get that right...) -- Markus Grunwald

Re: New install Jesse 8.6.0...grub2 problem

2016-10-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 30/10/2016 à 13:13, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Thursday 06 October 2016 19:12:43 Pascal Hambourg wrote: The result of bootinfoscript would be a good starting point. I have Jessie fully updated and aptitude can't find bootinfoscript. How did you search ? It is a command, not a package name.

Re: Power Cut

2016-10-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 30 October 2016 08:03:57 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 30 October 2016 07:36:23 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I'd also > > see if natural gas is available at the site, so that a generator can > > be started when the main power fails. > > Gene - Why only natural gas? Is this a linguistic matt

Re: EUREKA!!!! - was [Re: Permissions for an entire PARTITION]

2016-10-30 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, October 30, 2016 08:54:45 AM Brian wrote: > There are some good things which have come out of this discussion. To > use cfdisk, fdisk, dd, mkfs.vfat and grub-install a user has to be > root. Being able to mount as non-root is neither here nor there on > jessie and stretch for the purpose

Re: new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread Michael Milliman
On 10/30/2016 06:56 AM, Pol Hallen wrote: Good sunday to all :-) I bought a new notebook: i7 2.2Ghz, 8Gb ram and ssd 256Gb. Consider that small disk, can I install debian without swap? Does swap still useful? Yes, debian can be installed without swap. Whether swap is useful depends on the

Re: EUREKA!!!! - was [Re: Permissions for an entire PARTITION]

2016-10-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 12:22:43 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 23:49:17 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > They do indeed. Six years. Do you get the feeling it is getting on for > > unmaintained. (And a wiki page with HAL on it! I ask you). But software > > changes. Then wiki pages change. >

Re: kernel header for 4.6.0-1-686

2016-10-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Joe Pfeiffer writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > >> Joe Pfeiffer writes: >>> >>> Any particular reason you need that particular version? Could you >>> upgrade your virtualbox VM to a different kernel and use the headers >>> for that kernel (or if I'm misremembering which kernel requires the >>> h

Re: New install Jesse 8.6.0...grub2 problem

2016-10-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 06 October 2016 19:12:43 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 06/10/2016 à 19:22, Mark Neidorff a écrit : > > Is there more information that you need to help me? > > The result of bootinfoscript would be a good starting point. I have Jessie fully updated and aptitude can't find bootinfoscript.

Re: Power Cut

2016-10-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 30 October 2016 07:36:23 Gene Heskett wrote: > I'd also > see if natural gas is available at the site, so that a generator can be > started when the main power fails. Gene - Why only natural gas? Is this a linguistic matter or technical? Why would this not work with say, coal gas, Cal

new pc and swap

2016-10-30 Thread Pol Hallen
Good sunday to all :-) I bought a new notebook: i7 2.2Ghz, 8Gb ram and ssd 256Gb. Consider that small disk, can I install debian without swap? Does swap still useful? thanks for advices! :) Pol

Re: EUREKA!!!! - was [Re: Permissions for an entire PARTITION]

2016-10-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 30 October 2016 00:19:34 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, October 29, 2016 07:00:02 PM Brian wrote: > > What happened to curiosity? > > Curiosity is a function of available resources, among them time. The OP says that he has ample time because he is retired and this is his retir

Re: Power Cut

2016-10-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 10:06:30 +0100 Andre Majorel wrote: > On 2016-10-29 23:37 -0700, Hadi Motamedi wrote: > > > I am using a debian server for cdr billing and mediation > > device on a remote network. I am experiencing problem that I > > am suspicious it comes from main supply power

Re: EUREKA!!!! - was [Re: Permissions for an entire PARTITION]

2016-10-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 23:49:17 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 23:23:52 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:15:53 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > > > > I wish you had addressed the "equal exposure" question. Desktops are not > > > the only environments in town. Lea

Re: Power Cut

2016-10-30 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2016-10-29 23:37 -0700, Hadi Motamedi wrote: > I am using a debian server for cdr billing and mediation > device on a remote network. I am experiencing problem that I > am suspicious it comes from main supply power cut at the > remote site. The power supply to the remote site comes from > batte

Re: Power Cut

2016-10-30 Thread Hadi Motamedi
Thank you very much for your reply . I got the point and it seems that the /var/log/messages are more handy . Thank you again for your time On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 12:36 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 30 October 2016 02:37:28 Hadi Motamedi wrote: > > > Dear All > > I am using a debian serv

Re: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 510 on GNOME

2016-10-30 Thread Samuel Bächler
On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Samuel Bächler composed on 2016-10-29 21:56 (UTC+0200): > > I have got a graphics adapter that is somehow integrated on the >> motherboard. [1] On this hardware I can use KDE but no GNOME. When >> installing GNOME I get the error message 'Oh

Re: Power Cut

2016-10-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 30 October 2016 02:37:28 Hadi Motamedi wrote: > Dear All > I am using a debian server for cdr billing and mediation device on a > remote network. I am experiencing problem that I am suspicious it > comes from main supply power cut at the remote site. The power supply > to the remote site